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time of birth on certificate ?

time of birth on certificate ?

Posted: 29 Jun 2015 11:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
on a relatives birth certificate where is says where born it seems to read

1/4 before p.m at cherhill

or this is how im reading it is this the norm or does anyone read it differently
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Re: time of birth on certificate ?

Posted: 30 Jun 2015 9:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Jun 2015 9:50AM GMT
Hi Simon,
That's really bad image you have given. How did you manage that? Deliberately overlaid two images or scanned a document with another document behind it rather than a white or black sheet? And maybe you did not have the lid down.

Anyway, I think it is likely to be 1/4 before 1 p.m.

And the column is not "where born" but "when and where born".

Some people have surmised that the time of birth is given when there are twins so as to know which was born first but myself I do not believe that.

Bryan

Re: time of birth on certificate ?

Posted: 30 Jun 2015 12:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Needs a better image to read - but a time of birth on an England/Wales birth certificate should always indicate a multiple birth, but I believe some registrars (especially in the early days of registration) may have put them on single birth entries as well.

The local registration office, who hold the original document, would be able to tell you for certain.

Re: time of birth on certificate ?

Posted: 30 Jun 2015 1:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the reply's guy the image is bad because the cert was damaged it was in with a pile of census's i had printed off,we had a flood and lots of my stuff got ruined ,its not two images its the cert covered in ink from the census it was next to when it got immersed in water.

i don't believe my rellie to be a twin but it's something to look at i guess.

thanks again for the input it most appreciated.

simon

Re: time of birth on certificate ?

Posted: 30 Jun 2015 5:12PM GMT
Classification: Birth
Edited: 30 Jun 2015 6:01PM GMT
Simon,
If you check Freebmd then there were two HENDON births that quarter but they are shown to be on different pages which makes them being twins very unlikely. Also there is no sign that either of them died shortly after.

Births Dec 1848
Hendon David Calne 8 272
Hendon Joseph Calne 8 268

That David HENDON born above appears to be born and living in Calne in 1851 census - son of John HENDON and his wife Jane.

If one of the children had been still born then the birth would not have been recorded but it is far more likely that it was just the recorder taking the "when born" to mean including the time of day. He probably did it for all the births.

I have many birth certificates and only three give a time of birth and none of those seem to be multiple births. Two of them were in 1849 and 1850 and by the same Registrar. The other was a few years earlier at a different place.

Bryan

PS - before you have another flood or fire I suggest you take copies (paper or electronic) of your important documents and store them somewhere not in your house.
Thinking about it I've got some irreplaceable documents I have no copies of - must do that sometime soon - as I've been telling myself for years.

Re: time of birth on certificate ?

Posted: 30 Jun 2015 6:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
cheers bryan im uploading all the images and documents to my tree so ill have copies of everything if i ever have another flood

im lucky only one cert got damaged
i did lose lots of photos that are not replacable so good hint mate

simon
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