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thom2494159 — 2013-05-18 01:30:18Z

I finally found out the more you learn how to search the better it is for you. I found books to buy and whatever you do put all you know about the person even if you think it's not important.Lord the spelling in some of the census. Burrell is also Buril,Burrel Allen is also Alllyn so don't get detoured by the spelling.

Re: looking for information

eGENEee — 2013-05-16 21:26:58Z

What was your aunt's name? Where did she work? When did she pass away?

I'm not sure what you mean by "rmyegister" -- Was she in the Army? There are records available if she was. Otherwise if you post some details, I'll see what I can find...

Re: looking for information

cherylpeace4milo — 2013-05-16 19:12:26Z

Yes I am these women had to have rmyegister somewhere ...this is my aunt I am looking for of she died at the age of 40 but from hearing from my family she did work in washington state ...i just feel it a list somewhere

Re: looking for information

eGENEee — 2013-05-16 18:28:53Z

Rosie the Riveter was a character, icon, or a nickname for a woman who worked in a factory...? You can read about "her" here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_the_Riveter

Are you looking for a specific woman who worked in a factory...? There are probably other ways to find her. Can you post more specific information?

Re: Easter 1680

mi2early — 2013-05-16 13:13:23Z

You need to take your argument to the owner of the web site.
It seems unlikely Easter would appear on any of the calendars you mention, though.

Re: Easter 1680

AGHatchett3rd — 2013-05-16 05:56:38Z

"[Before the year 1583 the Julian calendar was the only one used, therefore before 1583, all dates are identical and are under the Julian Calendar.]"

How totally absurd!!!!

There were several other calendars used prior to 1583 that are still in use today. The Jewish and the Chinese, and Hindu calendars being just three examples that are still being used today.

Re: Easter 1680

KenPestell — 2013-05-15 23:00:57Z

mi2early,

Thanks!

Ken

Re: Easter 1680

mi2early — 2013-05-15 13:39:56Z

Found by Googling "Easter 1680":

http://www.easterbunny.com/date-of-easter/easter-date-for-16...

"For the year 1680 Easter's date is 21 April 1680 by the Western Calendar.

"For the year 1680 Easter's date is 21 April 1680 by the Orthodox Calendar.

"If you are curious about the date for the Julian calendar as a historical note:
For the year 1680 Easter's date is 11 April 1680 by the Julian Calendar.

"[Before the year 1583 the Julian calendar was the only one used, therefore before 1583, all dates are identical and are under the Julian Calendar.]"

Easter 1680

KenPestell — 2013-05-15 13:32:25Z

Could SKS tell me the date of Easter in 1680?

Re: looking for information

LHSwisher — 2013-05-03 06:18:32Z

Unsure as to what you're asking. Are you looking for a directory of women who worked in factories during WW2? I don't think that such a list exists.

looking for information

cherylpeace4milo — 2013-05-02 21:52:58Z

Does anybody has a list of names, directory or any information of the women who worked Rosie the Riveter or how can I obtain information in the state of Washington or Washington D.C.

Thank You

Re: Meaning of "Private means"

juneyie — 2013-03-20 12:09:02Z

many thanks for reply. I forgot to mention that she was married and that her husband was in the services (army). Good to hear your explanation tho, all sorts of things go through your mind lol.

Re: Meaning of "Private means"

timtracker — 2013-03-19 23:50:56Z

Usually it just means that an individual does not have to work for a living and have a large sum available, either in cash, or investments.

Sometimes there can be a pension of some kind, sometimes an inheritance. Some lucky people live off of family trust funds. As it is a self defining statement, there is no set definition.

Meaning of "Private means"

juneyie — 2013-03-19 22:41:53Z

Hi
1911 Census, My G.Grandmother has under the catagory of personal occupation.."private means" can anyone shed any light on what this means please.

Re: Finding descendants after 1911 census

daughterofronny — 2013-03-10 22:45:51Z

Hi, use http://freebmd.rootsweb.com - you cn then put in the groom's surname and the bride's surname and a good range of dates - this will show you the children and where they were registered, hope this helps,

Annette

Finding descendants after 1911 census

gillianblakey — 2013-03-10 14:42:38Z

Does anybody know how to find if relatives have had any children? I have some ancestors born around 1900 who appear on the 1911 census as children and maybe I can find a marriage for them but I'm stuck on how to find out if they have had children. Can anybody help please?

Re: Finding descendants after 1911 census

Merice46 — 2013-03-10 06:27:16Z

Hi,
The FREEBMD site at Rootsweb?

Regards

Sandra

Re: What does "x cousin x times removed" mean?

dorava — 2013-03-04 22:41:16Z

Thank you very much!!

Administration may feel free to end this discussion now, but -- please do not remove this answer. I would like to be able to refer to it again.

What does "x cousin x times removed" mean?

dorava — 2013-03-04 22:40:49Z

While I like the link showing relationship to me, I don't understand for example "2nd cousin 4 times removed." I'm even encountering 7 times removed. Would anyone be willing to explain this to me? I've searched on the Ancestry Wiki, all through the boards, and I'm either not wording my question correctly or the answer is just not available.
Thank you.

determine birth date from birth certificate or baptism?

rpytak — 2013-03-04 13:48:42Z

Hi. In the olden days (1880's to be exact), how common was it for the midwife to record the wrong date of birth? My great grandpa was born in Cleveland, Ohio. His birth certificate says January 1, 1887. However, his baptism says December 31, 1886. On every other record I can find years after his birth (1900 census, WWI Draft, Death Certificate) all say December 31. But his son told me that they always celebrated it on the 1st! I'm very confused about it. I personally lean towards December 31. Any opinions ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

Re: Birth or baptism?

rpytak — 2013-03-03 23:20:58Z

Ok thanks for the advice!

Re: Birth or baptism?

jmyoung365 — 2013-03-03 23:05:16Z

My grandfather's birth certificate (from 1864) also shows one day different from the birth record in the Quaker records where the family information was maintained. My mother always said my grandfather celebrated his birthday on the day shown in the Quaker records. Granddad was born at home and the doctor would stop by later and then send in the information to the state (in my case New Jersey) and the BC could well be incorrect and merely based upon the doctor's recollection--and he may well not have even BEEN there for the birth. My guess would be that my granddad was born sometime around midnight and this could be the case in your situation also. I'd go with the date he actually celebrated his birth and put a note explaining that the BC was one day off.

For what it is worth...Social Security (if your great-grandfather was ever in that system) establishes ages based on "attainment" of an age and under that system a person is deemed to have attained an age ONE DAY prior their actual date of birth...in the case of your great-grandfather this actually mean he would have been entitled to benefits one month earlier than the date of his birth based upon the BC...and he attained age in the year prior to the Jan. 1st birth date on the BC.

Joan

Re: Birth or baptism?

willj1111 — 2013-03-03 15:44:41Z

maybe if you posted his name we could try to figure it out.

Re: Finding living relatives

blrrcn1 — 2013-02-10 11:54:31Z

You can also try Spokeo.com and Peoplefinders.com.

Re: Finding living relatives

sattpa10 — 2013-02-10 00:17:02Z

Thank you.

Re: Finding living relatives

AGHatchett3rd — 2013-02-09 21:32:27Z

I just checked and neither Intelius nor Veromi show any relatives for Marianne.

Re: Finding living relatives

AGHatchett3rd — 2013-02-09 21:26:34Z

Use Intelius.com or Veromi.com

Enter wife's name and it should give you a list of possible relatives

Finding living relatives

sattpa10 — 2013-02-09 19:01:47Z

I have been searching for my cousin and found he died in 1982 at age 37 and his wife died in April 2012. His wife is not buried with my cousin and there wasn't an obituary. How can I find out if they had children, or if my cousins wife has any living relatives? It looks like the last place my cousins wife lived was Jersey City, NJ.

Re: Housing

LHSwisher — 2013-02-07 04:00:03Z

You'd have to check city directories to track the addresses; then either Sanborn Insurance maps or title searches, to get a sense of what building was there.

Some information that may help is at http://www.imcpl.org/resources/guides/family/house-history/

Re: Housing

Happycouple0720 — 2013-02-06 05:20:13Z

Rebuilding of homes (construction, tearing down the original house and rebuilding a new one), Changing of street names....and such.

Re: Housing

BobNY — 2013-02-06 04:51:54Z

" How can we find out if it's the ORIGINAL home that they lived in?"

What exactly do you mean by an "original" home?

Housing

Happycouple0720 — 2013-02-06 03:21:51Z

Hi,

When we find actual physical addresses of ancestors. How can we find out if it's the ORIGINAL home that they lived in?

Thank you,
Nicole

Indiana, USA

Re: What relation?

RMadigan — 2013-02-02 15:07:41Z

Very helpful-thanks.

Richard

Re: What relation?

mi2early — 2013-02-02 14:36:45Z

Here are some relationship charts that will help you figure this out:

http://rwguide.rootsweb.ancestry.com/chart_relations.htm

http://www.islandregister.com/cousin.html

http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm

Re: What relation?

kmthomster — 2013-02-02 00:46:15Z

What if the "common ancestor" isn't an "ancestor" as such but is an aunt/uncle or cousin?

For example, My great grand aunt Mary is "Bob"'s 2nd Cousin 3x removed

What is my relationship to "Bob"?

Is there a calculator out there to work those relationship's out?

Re: What relation?

tedpack — 2013-02-01 19:13:38Z

Abe's 3rd GGF = Barbara's 6th GGF
Abe's 2nd GGP & Barbara's 5th GGP = siblings
Abe's 1st GGP & Barbara's 4th GGP = 1st cousins
Abe's GP & Barbara's 3rd GGP = 2nd cousins
Abe's parent & Barbara's 2nd GGP = 3rd cousins
Abe & Barbara's 1st GGP = 4th cousins
Abe & Barbara's GP = 4th cousins once removed (4C1R)
Abe & Barbara's parent = 4C2R
Abe & Barbara = 4C3R

Re: The Williams Paper, NY Genealogical Society Library

mi2early — 2013-01-29 15:02:13Z

Why not contact the Society? Contact info can be found at
http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/contact-us

The Williams Paper, NY Genealogical Society Library

mbarnes536 — 2013-01-28 18:11:27Z

I hope I am posting this in the correct place.

I have been doing some research of my family tree, picking up where my grandparents left off. After reading through a book they published, John Barns and his Descendants, they kept referring to The Williams Papers at the New York Genealogical Society. Does any know what these are? Getting to New York is not an easy task for me does anyone know if these are published online?

Thanks for all your help!!

Re: Why was this done? Weird historical question

cutlelilscavenger — 2013-01-26 23:46:47Z

Oh, that makes a lot of sense about being a matchmaking service. And given what I know about this woman, it seems a lot more likely than an outright scam of some kind. Thanks for the ideas as to what this might be. I hadn't considered matchmaking. :)

Re: Why was this done? Weird historical question

eGENEee — 2013-01-26 20:01:25Z

I think this was a match-making service -- men and women would write to the service, who would then arrange correspondence and/or meetings.

Re: Why was this done? Weird historical question

thomasker2 — 2013-01-26 13:12:53Z

Letters lead to "sending a fee"!!!

the perfect CON for the times!

Why was this done? Weird historical question

cutlelilscavenger — 2013-01-26 03:50:26Z

I am researching a woman who had the career of a psychic in the early 20th century. I happened upon some ads that she'd placed in newspapers around the state of Indiana; they simply said, "Ladies and gentlemen desiring correspondence, please send names to [name and address]." The ads didn't mention anything about her psychic work at all. I looked around and found that others during the same time period (around 1914) were placing similar ads, in other parts of the country. Was this simply a popular pen-pal hobby back then, or was there more to it than that? Do you think it was related to the psychic work? I have tried googling but really haven't come up with anything, other than people had placed similar ads. Does anyone know anything about this custom, and what the correspondence may have been, if not for a simple pen-pal hobby?

Re: What relation?

RMadigan — 2013-01-21 00:08:19Z

thanks-they take a little getting used to, but maybe the third one is the easier one. Looks like 5th cousin, 3 times removed.

What relation?

RMadigan — 2013-01-20 00:58:35Z

If Abe's 3rd GGF is Barbara's 6th GGF-what is their relationship? Would they be 6th cousins, or perhaps 3rd cousins, 3 times removed?

Thanks.

Richard

Re: General Geneology question. Did 1900 Catholic families have a tendency to swap their first and middle names??

RobinBMc — 2013-01-06 12:03:45Z

Census records are notoriously inaccurate - the process of obtaining the information and the purpose of the data collected allows for plenty of minor or major errors. Names in particular were frequently misrecorded because the intent of the census is for demographic purposes - the exact spellings or order of one's name was/is not of vital importance and therefore it is quite common to see misspelled or flip-flopped names. It does not necessarily mean the individual would flip-flop their names in practice, just that they were recorded backwards.

However, some people did go by their middle names. I have more than one "John Henry" in my tree who clearly went by "Henry" or "Harry" and their first name can't even be found on most censuses.

Re: Illegitimacy in Family

mi2early — 2013-01-06 00:42:16Z

Always work from yourself backward and take all family stories with a pinch of salt.

Your grandparents' birth certificates should give you the information you seek.

Illegitimacy in Family

bdmccomas — 2013-01-05 23:07:58Z

Both my grandfather and grandmother on my dad's side are rumored to be illegitimately born. For my grandfather, I have been told that his mother was the person I thought was his sister growing up. The guy that is supposedly my great-grandfather has a name that seems to be very common among my surname. Is there any advice on how to figure all of this out?

Re: General Geneology question. Did 1900 Catholic families have a tendency to swap their first and middle names??

thomasker2 — 2013-01-05 21:26:22Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

It was a very common practice to flip/flop btw census' using 1st names then middle names..

Check to see if the birthplaces remained the same from one census to the next.

General Geneology question. Did 1900 Catholic families have a tendency to swap their first and middle names??

nedyken2 — 2013-01-05 20:27:57Z

I've been searching for my grandfather's side of the family. Being that our last name is Kennedy and there is a ridiculous amount of people named Kennedy, it's proved difficult.

I know my grandfather's name was Leo J Kennedy Jr. I know his birthday was November 7, 1926 in Massachusetts (probably Lynn, MA). I know he had 9 brothers and sisters. I know the names of some of those brothers and sisters. Pat, Donald, Gene, Winnie...

So I've been trying to find documents linked to his parents. I know his parents were Leo J Kennedy Sr. and Margaret/Margarite/Marguerite Kennedy (maiden name Hanlon). I know they were both born in Nova Scotia, Canada.

You'd think it would be easy to find this stuff... but apparently there were multiple Leo Kennedy's married to Margaret Kennedys who came from Canada to Massachusetts. People weren't very original back in the day, I guess.

I did find which I'm fairly sure is the 1940 census document that lists many of the kids. What's odd is instead of showing Leo J Kennedy Sr as the head of the household, he lists his name as John L Kennedy. But it has to be the right family, because the children and their births line up:
Winifred (winnie) as the oldest (est born 1922).
It shows Daniel as the oldest boy (est born 1923).
It shows my grandfather, Leo (est born 1927... which lines up with November 1926)
It shows Donald (1931)
Eugene (1933)
Dolores (1935)

Has to be the family...

So my next step was finding the 1930 census document...

I believe I found it. But once again Leo J Kennedy Sr lists his name as "John L Kennedy"...

Even stranger, on this document, many of the kids show their middle names too. Below is a comparison between the 1940 and 1930 census:

[Census 1940] = Winifred born 1922 / [Census 1930] Winifred C born 1922

[Census 1940] = Daniel born 1925 / [Census 1930] Robert D born 1922

[Census 1940] = Leo born 1927 / [Census 1930] John L born 1927

[CEnsus 1940] = Theresa born 1930 / [Census 1930] Arlene T born 1929

... Note that the middle initials match up to the names I know. Leo Jr (my grandfather) = John L. Daniel = Robert D. Theresa = Arlene T. Why would they be showing the middle names first?... or do you think maybe the names I believe to be the middle names are actually the original birth names?

Re: Illegitimacy in Family

EdithPolk — 2013-01-05 20:22:02Z

you can send off for their death certicate if you have their birth and death dates,that will have the info.your looking for!