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George & Elizabeth GIBBINS London, UK to Guelph, Canada to Washington DC, USA

George & Elizabeth GIBBINS London, UK to Guelph, Canada to Washington DC, USA

Posted: 7 Jul 2013 10:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 8 Jul 2013 11:35AM GMT
Surnames: Gibbins, Hayworth, Stokes
Searching my GIBBINS family ancestries.
My grandparents George and Elizabeth Gibbins migrated from England to Canada to United States. They were Salvation Army Ministers, traveled around and settled in Washington DC. Most family history has been lost, here’s what we’re working with.

Thomas James Gibbins – Married Mary Ann Stokes - Date and Location
Born, Died, Father, Mother
Mary Ann Stokes – Born, Died, Father, Mother,
Children:
• George Leonard Gibbins Born 1887 Hackney Greater London, Middlesex England.
Looking for information:
• Other children of Thomas Gibbins and Mary Ann Stokes Gibbins
• Thomas James Gibbins family history
• Mary Ann Stokes Family history

George Leonard Gibbins – married Elizabeth Hayworth - grandparents
Born - 1887 Hackney Greater London, Middlesex England.
Died - Wash D.C.
Father – Thomas James Gibbins / Mother – Mary Ann Stokes
Married 12/27/1915 Wellington Ontario Canada, witness Edith Knighton

Elizabeth Hayworth –
Born – April 15, 1888 Stockport England
Died – 1977 Washington D.C.
Father – Daniel Hayworth / Mother – Ellen Bailey Hayworth

Looking for information:
• George and Elizabeth
• Hayworth Family
• Baily Family

Dates and locations that have appeared:
• 1911 Essex England census
• Canada – 112 Bridge St. Guelph Ontario Wellington Canada
• 1930 – Hendersonville North Carolina census
• Washington D.C. – Salvation Army
• Children: George N, Clifford L, Lionel A, Edith M
Thanks
Keith Gibbins - Son to Cliff and Margaret

Re: George & Elizabeth GIBBINS London, UK to Guelph, Canada to Washington DC, USA

Posted: 8 Jul 2013 4:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am having trouble with Elizabeth - Can you tell me please the source of your information on her date of birth and her parents please?

Re: George & Elizabeth GIBBINS London, UK to Guelph, Canada to Washington DC, USA

Posted: 8 Jul 2013 7:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
The only information we have at this time are some family notes and an On Line copy of the Marriage License from Guelph Ontario. The marriage license has her name as Elizabeth yet some think it maybe Sarah Elizabeth not Elizabeth Sarah unsure if and when she might have dropped Sarah and that they both very involved with the Salvation Army.
Thanks for helping
Keith

Re: George & Elizabeth GIBBINS London, UK to Guelph, Canada to Washington DC, USA

Posted: 8 Jul 2013 11:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 8 Jul 2013 11:37PM GMT
So you have never seen a Birth Certificate?

The problem I have is I can find on the English online Indexes no marriage for Daniel and Ellen, nor a birth in Stockport, Cheshire for a HAYWORTH with mother's maiden name of BAILEY.

The trouble is - a marriage certificate (as, indeed, is a Birth certificate) only as good as the information provided by the parties concerned. Sometimes this is not quite correct, for whatever reason.

This could be something as simple as a spelling error or an age a few years out. For example, the surname of HAYWORTH is a variant of HAWORTH, HOWARTH, HAWARTH etc etc. Prior to the 20th Century these spelling variations occurred frequently in documentation.

Which is why I asked what documentation you hold.

I am not familiar with Canadian MArriage certificates - do they give father's occupation?

Re: George & Elizabeth GIBBINS London, UK to Guelph, Canada to Washington DC, USA

Posted: 27 Aug 2013 3:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi
Elizabeth’s father - Daniel Nathaniel Hayworth,
Born 1869 – Burley England
Died January 6, 1921 – Guelph Ontario
Will that help
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