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Barros, Fraga, & Faria Surnames

KLou  (View posts) Posted: 24 Oct 2002 9:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Barros, Fraga, Faria
Hi All! I am very new to this but got interested when I learned a little about Sephardim. I have a question concerning these surnames: Barros, Fraga, and Faria. I found these names listed on a Sephardic site. These names are my maternal grandparents', my father's, and my mother's maiden. How do I find out if we are actually Jewish? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
KLou

Jewish and non-Jewish surnames

Rui Pereira  (View posts) Posted: 27 Oct 2002 4:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear KLou:

To know the origin of your surnames (Barros, Faria, Fraga), you will have to trace them back to Portugal and then use (post-1911) Civil Registration and (pre-1911) Church records to follow your surnames into the past for as long as you can. The Church records will give you the names of your ancestors, sometimes their jobs, but they won't tell you if those people are New Christians or not.

Some Church records are kept in regional archives while others are at the Portuguese National Archives - Torre do Tombo - in Lisbon.

The fact that you found your surnames on a Sephardic site has little significance by itself. (See my explanation below).

The documents that REALLY tell if a person is a "New Christian" (Jewish descendant) or not are:
- The Inquisition's Trials - data for some 40,000 trials, most of which are of New Christians accused of being Jews. Usually have the defendant's name, if they are Old Christian, New Christian of something in between (yes, "1/2 New Christian", "1/4 New Christian", "3/8 New Christian"), parents and grandparents. The Portuguese Inquisition started in the 1500's and lasted until the early 19th century. Most trials are from 16th and 17th centuries.
"Familiares" - research on the family of those who wanted to become "Familiares do Santo Ofício" (literally, the Holy Office's relatives), the Inquisition's local agents, which couldn't be New Christians. Research usually includes the candidate, parents, grandparents, candidate's wife, her parents and grandparents (if married), sometimes it reaches great-grandparents or even more. I don't know how many of these documents there are, I'd guess some 10,000. Most are from 17th and 18th centuries.
"Leitura de Bacharéis" - research on the family of those who wanted to become a lawyer or a judge. Usually includes the candidate, parents, grandparents and sometimes wife (if married). Most are from 17th and 18th centuries.
Military Orders - becoming a Knight of one of the three Military Orders ("Ordem de Cristo", "Ordem de Avis", "Ordem de Santiago") was an honour given by the King. This honour would only become effective, however, after a research on his family up to his grandparents was made at the result was 1) no New Christians and 2) no "inapropriate" jobs (no tailors, no shoemakers, no blacksmiths, no millers, and so on, and so on). Documents for these researches are usually incomplete. Most are from 17th and 18th centuries.
Priests - when a man was to become a Priest, a research was made on his family. Usually includes the candidate, parents and grandparents. Most are from 17th and 18th centuries.

All these documents are kept at the Torre do Tombo with the exception of documents for Priests, which are in a number of different locations throughout the country including the Torre do Tombo.

Notice the dates for the "documents that will tell...". In the late 18th century, the distinction between Old and New Christians was officially suppressed. Only older documents give information on that subject.

But why do your surnames appear on the page you visited?

When all Portuguese Jews were forced to abandon their religion and become Christians (circa 1500) they adopted new Christian names and surnames replacing their Hebrew names. There were many Jews in Portugal at the time, they accounted for some 10 percent of the population, perhaps more (I have seen different estimates).

As you probably know, in the following centuries the Inquisition tried to ensure the former Jews and their descendants didn't revert to their old belief. The New Christians - even those who were sincerely Catholic - were treated as inferior people, e. g., you couldn't be a judge if you were a New Christian (see above), there were special taxes only New Christians had to pay, and so on. Being accused of being a New Christian was terrible for anyone (either if it was true or not).

This state of affairs encouraged New Christians to merge into society as well as they could. This also applied to surnames. Many people believe you can see if you have Jewish ancestry by looking for "Jewish" surnames. According to some legend, all surnames that are names of trees - Nogueira, Oliveira, Pereira, and so on - are Jewish. Others say "Santos" (saints) and "Cruz" (cross) are Jewish surnames because Jews wanted to show they were true Christians and adopted these religious words as their names. I think this is nonsense. Yes, some Jews adopted these surnames - I even have New Christian ancestors named Pereira - but that is because they adopted virtually all pre-existent Portuguese surnames. You found your surnames - Barros, Faria, Fraga - listed just like you would find any frequent Portuguese surnames there (from the three surnames you mentioned, two - Barros and Faria - are frequent, and the other - Fraga - is not very frequent but it is not that unusual either).

While I was writing this post, I did a small test. I tried to remember 20 frequent Portuguese surnames. I would like to have the actual list of the top 20 Portuguese surnames but I have never seen one such list. So, my list was:

Silva (usually regarded as #1), Santos, Pereira, Oliveira, Rodrigues, Martins, Fernandes, Gonçalves, Pinto, Lopes, Mendes, Ferreira, Dias, Nogueira, Alves, Pires, Neves, Carvalho, Almeida, Antunes.

Then I went to Sephardim.com to check how many of those were there. Well, I found 20 out of 20. I swear I didn't cheat (after completing the list I noticed I had forgotten at least one of the most frequent surnames, Sousa, which, of course, was also there), but I also swear that I was almost sure that would be the result.

So, my advice is, start with Civil Registration and Church Records. Then, if you find ancestors' names from the 17th and 18th centuries, try to know those names show up in the available databases and indexes. Of course, a matching name might not be enough. I am sure there are many people named, say, "Manuel Fernandes" in those documents. Additional data such as the place of birth are very important for this kind of research.

Feel free to ask further questions on this subject.

Good luck!

Rui Pereira

Re: Barros, Fraga, & Faria Surnames

Donalyn_Snelling  (View posts) Posted: 16 Nov 2002 3:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,

I noted your Faria name with interest. Without doing the genealogy, I know of Ferris, the anglicized name, as at least some being Jewish. There seem to be several variations of this name. I believe the root has something to do with iron or metal-working? If you are interested, I'll try to find more.

Cheers,
Donalyn

Re: Barros, Fraga, & Faria Surnames

Kehaulani  (View posts) Posted: 18 Nov 2002 7:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for the info regarding the surname, Faria. I have not done any genealogy beyond my great great grandparents. I don't really know where or how to begin and my family was lax in keeping good records. However, I have gotten my older sister interested and now she wants to help me. Thank you again and any more info would be greatly appreciated.

God bless,
Kehaulani

Re: Jewish and non-Jewish surnames

Linda  (View posts) Posted: 26 Dec 2002 10:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
I viewed your note with interest especially the surname Oliveras. There are conflicting stories within our family regarding a colonial ancestor named Christina Olivares (Oliveras) with the spelling unknown as our grandfather had terrible spelling and the story extended through several generations (four) until it reached him, when he documented it in late 1898.

Anyway, his letter stated the Olivares name was from Castille, Spain and other members of the family recalled it being a Portugese name.

It was common for Massachusetts colonists to go back and forth from Portugal and from Western Spain, but not from Eastern Spain where the descendancy allegedly occurred. In fact, one of the individuals who shared the same Anglican surname, who is allegedly not related traveled extensively from Boston to Portugal.

I have found Faria to be common in the Azores, in the Island of Faial. But interestingly enough, I have also found the name of the town of Ribeirinha. Intrestingly enough, the Anglican named sister married a Rodrigo de Ribeira (Ribera)......

Further, it wouldn't surprise me, that in Portugal, Spain, France, or any other Mediterranean country, individuals would intermarry with individuals from other countries, especially in light of trade, and these include Sephardics, Muslims, Jewish, Christians and who knows what else.....................

Afterall, Europe is only how many years old?





Re: Barros, Fraga, & Faria Surnames

Linda  (View posts) Posted: 26 Dec 2002 10:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
The Faria name is Portugese....this is an excellent place to start http://www.dholmes.com/rocha1.html

The Sacramento Society has wonderful resources for indivdiuals with those surnames.......

Linda

Re: Barneiro/Barnero/Barner

Donalyn_Snelling  (View posts) Posted: 4 Jan 2003 11:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hey Linda,

Nice to see you here! I thought I'd give you what I really found on the web, which may be a lead. There was a chemist/physician/author in the 1600s in Poland named Jakob Barner, who was body physician to the Poland royals. His actual name, before change, was Jacobo Barnero. I am not certain if he was a practicing Sephardim, or even Sephardic in origin as the Aramaic name suggests, but hope to be able to find more about him. Sephardic and Jewish physicians to the Royals was *very* common. I've contacted a local synogogue that has an extensive library and hope to obtain some kind of biography, or whatever info I can find. I'll let you know what I find or if I run into a dead end.

Cheers,
Donalyn

Re: Barneiro/Barnero/Barner

Linda  (View posts) Posted: 5 Jan 2003 6:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
I've been on here a lot...for many, many years!!!

Just today, we determined to do DNA testing and I am getting everything arranged for the tests to be conducted and once and for all, this should resolve the issue...just to give you an idea of where we are at and what is happening.

As far as the American side, I have come up with new information on how the family got to Maine.

Linda

Re: Barneiro/Barnero/Barner

Donalyn_Snelling  (View posts) Posted: 5 Jan 2003 6:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hey Linda,

That's great. I proposed an overall Snelling surname Ydna study last week and had planned to do testing through those means to also determine kinships overall. Now, a Ydna study will only go back to the male progenitor, but I know you understand that. So, perhaps if this line does go back to an English male progenitor, we may use this as a starting point for a Snelling/Snellen project, that is, if we will be using FTDNA.

Cheers,
Donalyn

PS I meant that it is nice to see you here at this message board :_)

Jewish (emigrated) vs. non-Jewish surnames(stayed)

silviaeaston  (View posts) Posted: 8 Jan 2004 10:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Lopez, Olivera, Martin, Fernandez, Gonzales
In my family I have some of the surnames you mentioned: Lopes, Olivera, Gonzales, Martin, Fernandez. The huge difference between those that you mention whose name are these and still living in Portugal vs. the so called "Sephardic" living elsewhere is that THEY LEFT in the 1500's!!!!
Why would a family pick up and leave a country then, without the jets or Carnival Cruises....???? "Accomodations" were severe.
By the way, I also read that "in mid 1700's in Cuba (at least) you could petition the court for a "Limpieza" certificate (racial purity certificate) !!!
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