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1870 Census, Odd Household arrangement question

girlygirlsteph20 — 2013-03-14 05:49:44Z

In searching the 1870 census for Salisbury Township, Chariton County Missouri for my Great Great Grandfather William Marion Smith I came across something I consider an atypical enumeration for my family. They are found on Page one, and are the first household enumerated.

persons listed:

Vandiver, Della, 8 years old
Holliday, Richard, 30 years old, Teacher
Barnes, Richard, 72 years old, Farmer, 2100 personal
Estate.
Smith, William, 37 years old, Farmer, 3000 real
estate value, 500 personal estate.
Smith, Jane, 24yrs old, Keeping House.
Smith, Elmer, 4yrs old
So, My question is... Who are all of these people that are not Smith's? Why did they choose to enumerate a child first? In the position I would normally see the Head of Household in? The only thing I know for Certain, is that none of the 1st three people are related to my Great Great Grandfather, Nor his wife.
Thanks if you have any suggestions or ideas

1870 Census, Odd Household arrangement question

girlygirlsteph20 — 2013-03-14 05:49:33Z

Re: Meaning of "do" in 1860 census

cyndi308 — 2013-01-26 02:27:54Z

Yep.

Meaning of "do" in 1860 census

CrafterCathy — 2013-01-25 02:07:20Z

I was looking through the 1860 census for Boonville, MO and came across several "do" under occupations. I'm assuming this means "ditto" as it appears under the previous line for "farm laborer" or "merchant." Does anyone know if that's a correct assumption?
Thanks.

Cathy

1921 Canadian Census - When will it be released

familyhunt132 — 2012-10-11 04:59:04Z

When will the 1921 Canadian Census be released?

Re: Interested?

vorries1 — 2012-09-10 01:17:20Z

Sure, my E-mail is ( gloluqo1@yahoo.com ). How old are you now? As I understand it's been quite a few years you have been out of touch. It is so sad, I feel that we as families should be more united then lose our history of our blood kin. i also found out my husband had 2 Half sisters, Lupe & Irene, Irene had 2 daughters, Flora & Sally. Sally had children, & I have got in contact with 1 son. He was in the service, married now, lives around Covina I belive. In all there are 6 or 7 kids of Sally. Flora & Sally have passed away. Flora has One son named John Gonzales. But don't know where he is. All this started with my father-law & my mother -in law with me in 1945, when I married their son Joe L. Olivas. The rest is history.

Re: Interested?

richieisloco — 2012-09-09 02:46:56Z

I have tried lots of ways, such as genealogybank, ancestry.com, and family search. Oh, I also use my heritage for family tree programs, and mundia. I want to tell you again how happy I am to have found you and everyone. May I have your email address so I can give you my phone number for everyone.

Re: Interested?

vorries1 — 2012-09-08 19:56:43Z

See how this beautiful machines do for one.Best thing is family. tell me now how did you locate the Info. about your grandma's grandpa. You pay for your Info? I go through "Family Search .org." Best there is, no charge. Lots of information in there.

Re: Interested?

richieisloco — 2012-09-08 19:11:12Z

Yes she did babysit me and my sister when we were younger. I have very fond memories of her and my Uncle Frank. I hope they are doing well. I also remember my Aunt Rosie. I hope we can all be a family again. I am sorry Joe had passed away. My daughter's birthday is June 25.

Re: Location ,location

richieisloco — 2012-09-08 18:44:55Z

Can you email me directly, I tried to email the above but it will not go through. My email address is richieisloco@yahoo.com

Re: Location ,location

vorries1 — 2012-09-08 18:14:06Z

I messed up, mailed my note to Wayne, as I wrote telling you, long story done short. Your grandmothers, sister named Yolanda, would like for you get in contact.. (ft0rres@ac.rr.com). Talking to Your other aunt Rosie told me to tell you, she is in contact with your uncle Kenny, & aunt Zena. You know I will ck. on the E. Juarez, Chihuahua, thing. I've been told it was always EL Paso, Tx.

Interested?

vorries1 — 2012-09-08 17:58:35Z

Hello Wayne, Talked to your Grandma's sister, Rosie Torres, she in turn talked to her sister Yolanda, as I under stand baby sat for you & your sister, Denise, when you were younger. She is in touch with your uncle Kenny, & aunt Zena. Sorry I don't believe we have met, family got scatter. it happens. But Yolanda, said o'k so I could send you her E-mail, in case you are interest. (ft0rre@ca.rr.com). Isn't this great. I think the computer is a great machine. I am 84 yrs. uncle Joe's wife, he passed away 6-25-12. We were married 86 yrs. Miss him dearly. But this type of things keep me going. What war did you go or didn't. Keep our notes going.

Re: Location ,location

richieisloco — 2012-09-07 22:01:51Z

Sorry, by the way. Everyone knows me by my middle name which is Wayne.

Re: Location ,location

richieisloco — 2012-09-07 22:00:20Z

I am Ida's son, Barbara was my grandmother. I lived with her until I was 9. I do not know if we ever met. I do know I was at Great Grandma Rita's a lot when I was young. I will try to post the picture. I have also included pictures of him coming to the U.S. as well as what looks to be a draft for World War I. Please let me know of what you think. Also you can email me at richieisloco@yahoo.com

Re: Location ,location

vorries1 — 2012-09-04 06:41:08Z

Show the Picture, who's son are you. Stay in touch. Finely I have someone who is doing what I am. Thank you. I am Joe's wife Gloria, have we ever met? Hope to hear from you again. anything else you know?

Re: Location ,location

richieisloco — 2012-09-03 23:55:55Z

Hilario was actually born in E Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico. I have found information to this effect. Carmen and Hilario are my great, great grandparents. Their grand daughter Barbara was my grandmother. If you would like to see this information or would like to discuss further please let me know. I even have a picture of him from when he came to El Paso, TX.

Re: What does OC mean in 1920 census?

CountessAnne — 2012-08-20 04:28:31Z

I'm afraid I might not be much help, but could it be "Occidental" as opposed to "Oriental", which was probably used back then?

What does OC mean in 1920 census?

Laurin612 — 2012-07-28 14:15:45Z

I found my great great grandmother in the 1920 census. Where it asks where her father was from it says "India" and has OC written above both the country and the native language (English).

I have done some searching and found a lot of people guessing as to what the abbreviation means, but I haven't found anything concrete. Does anyone have any information?

1901 and 1911 Ireland Census

walterburke1937 — 2012-07-13 19:13:34Z

Will these soon be available on Ancestry?

1800 or earlier census

fringe62 — 2012-07-03 22:04:21Z

How do you verify that it's the correct person when it's just the head of household name and then number of adults, children, slaves etc... Even if the name, date and number of people seems to match matches the head of household, not sure how to be sure.
Thanks, Heather

1940 Census

174Lyndale — 2012-05-24 06:18:15Z

How does one find their family household when the 1940 Census still is not completed by the transcribers?

I remember seeing somewhere if one has the Enumeration District number from the 1930 Census it can be used to browse through that same Enumeration District to find your family.
Is this the way to proceed for the time being?

One person told me she spent days browsing and found her family that way.

If anyone sees Himmelsbach in the Township of Tonawanda, Erie County, NYS oh please send me the info!

Re: maybe a dumb question, but...

jerryleggett — 2012-04-09 18:01:15Z

I did research when 1930 came out. But I'm dumb when it
comes to transcribing. Please guide me. Thanks,Jerry

Georgia (country)

jaimeemarch — 2012-03-20 17:03:25Z

On a census record for my gg grandfather, Thomas Keese, it says his place of birth was Geo.
The transcribed part says Georgia (country). I am wondering why they would add country in the transcription and if they are referring to the Republic of Georgia which borders Russia and Asia???
Thomas Keese b1826 d 1873
Lived in Goldthwaite, Texas and married Martha Elizabeth Rigby

confusion in relationships in US census records

vkcostanzi — 2012-02-12 18:16:04Z

I've often found that children who are listed as 'son' or 'daughter' are too young to be that of the head of household. Could they be grandchildren, as they are often listed under the name of an adult child? The only information I've found is the official position that the relationship shown is that to the head of household. Thanks.

Re: How would you attach an 1820 US Census to an unamed child?

marijoy528 — 2011-12-09 22:59:56Z

I would assign the census to the unnamed child even tho
the census is in the father's name. and i have done that

How would you attach an 1820 US Census to an unamed child?

PennyBrownGeiszler — 2011-12-09 03:03:53Z

I'm trying to create documentation for individuals using the various Census and Vital records available on Ancestry.com. I'm not sure what to do when I get to the 1820, 1830, and 1840 Census.

Let's say I find a daughter born in 1818 and lives with her parents until 1841. I find the 1820, 1830, and 1840 Census of her father. Would you attach the Census record to the daughter even though the record name is indexed as the father's name?

CenTrans has 50 lines/page but 1820 Census has 52 or 53

jecain33 — 2011-11-16 03:07:09Z

Am trying to transcribe the 1820 census of Amite MS. Some pages on the Census image have over 50 lines but CenTrans allows only 50. How to handle?

abbreviation on 1930 US census

Mamamoma — 2011-09-22 01:19:15Z

Have family member listed as prisoner on census. Regarding work previous day "NO" labor code Inst. What does inst mean? Prisoner had no occupation.

Re: homer foster, rosa foster, children

shakti2 — 2011-08-04 06:25:39Z

I see you were looking for information on the Foster and Sutton families. Homer Foster was married to Rosetta (Rosie) Sutton. They had two children: Delores and Hollis. Delores was my g.grandmother. I hope this helps!
Bethany

Re: maybe a dumb question, but...

StubbyTate — 2011-07-03 23:37:25Z

Not necessarily. On one census record, my grandfather wasn't related to the family he was counted with at all and it was a confusing task to figure out why he was there. We then realized he was down the street from his home playing with the neighborhood kids when the enumerator came by. They used my grandfather's real surname and it looked odd on the census but that's the explanation we came up with.

Re: maybe a dumb question, but...

JoMac53 — 2011-07-03 19:45:38Z

Yes, from my understanding. You can find the instructions to enumerators on this page http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/inst1880.shtml

Re: Address of New York Ward 7 District 2

bobpret — 2011-04-11 12:42:48Z

Thanks again for your earlier reply.

Is it possible to locate the specific street address given the "dwelling number" provided in the Census ... in this case dwelling # 398?

Thanks.

Re: Address of New York Ward 7 District 2

bobpret — 2011-04-09 00:15:28Z

Thank you.

Re: 1940 Census

FogCity2 — 2011-04-07 05:39:42Z

Only 1940 will be added next year. 1950 census is not scheduled for release until 2022. 72 years must pass between the year a census is collected and the year the details are released to the general public.

The statute controlling the length of time could be changed, however due to privacy concerns it is more likely that any change would be to make the release time longer so as not to release private information about people who are still living.

Re: Address of New York Ward 7 District 2

BobNY — 2011-04-07 04:55:05Z

Ward 7 District 2 was a 2 square block area bounded by Catherine St., Market St., Henry St., Monroe St.

The nearest Catholic Church extant in your timeframe is only a block away:
St James
23 Oliver St.
New York, NY 10038

Re: 1940 Census

apepper9 — 2011-04-07 04:06:14Z

oh, so would have all census, or just 1940? so, we have to wait another ten years for 1950?

Re: Address of New York Ward 7 District 2

bobpret — 2011-04-06 22:28:04Z

1860. Thanks

Re: Address of New York Ward 7 District 2

BobNY — 2011-04-06 14:21:51Z

First, you have to tell us the year.

Re: 1940 Census

FogCity2 — 2011-04-06 07:13:37Z

According to the National Archives and Records Administration the 1940 and later censuses are not available for public use due to a statutory 72-year restriction on access for privacy reasons. (92 Stat. 915; Public Law 95-416; October 5, 1978).

It is scheduled to be released next year, 2012 (1940 + 72 statutory wait = 2012)

Re: 1940 Census

apepper9 — 2011-04-06 05:49:41Z

I want to know this as well. After all these years, they only have up to 1930 on this site?

1940 Census

TxNxT — 2011-03-29 02:45:34Z

When will ancestry have the 1940 census?

Address of New York Ward 7 District 2

bobpret — 2011-03-18 01:05:46Z

How can I determine location of New York County Ward 7 District 2? I want to find close Catholic churches which may have family marriage records. Thanks

Why does Ancestry have 1790 census backwards?

countrycorral — 2010-11-04 20:03:54Z

The sequence of age ranges for males for the 1790 U.S. census is males 16 and over, males under 16. However, I just noticed that Ancestry shows the first two backwards! Ancestry has males under 16, then males 16 and over. So, I have been saving the age-range counts in this sequence, while under the belief that I am saving the numbers in the correct sequence. I'll have to go thru and change ALL the ones that I've saved so far.
WHY DOES ANCESTRY.COM DO IT BACKWARDS????????

Help! translation of Censuses prior to 1850

KeithSeymour77 — 2010-09-05 02:36:52Z

Someone please help me! I have been trying all weekend to figure out the censuses prior to 1850. Most of them seem to have just bunch of numbers next to names, and seem to have no reason to them.
Are the names listed alphabetically, just by head of household, etc.

Also. heritagequest does not appear to have an 1860 census listing.

What is going on?

Thnaks,

Keith H. Seymour

maybe a dumb question, but...

sjm9602 — 2010-08-17 05:40:58Z

Can I assume that all people listed in a household on a census are those that usually live in that house?
I didn't know if the census taker listed those people present when he came around or not.
Trying to make sense of a 1880 Census entry.

Thanks

Re: Ths abbreviation

tnragin1 — 2010-06-28 13:19:25Z

Thank you. I thought so but I was sure.

Re: Ths abbreviation

TateTwo — 2010-06-25 01:21:11Z

Sorry, it was late when I read your original message. I agree that it could be Thomas

Re: Ths abbreviation

geojack — 2010-06-24 18:50:03Z

probably Thomas

Re: Ths abbreviation

tnragin1 — 2010-06-24 18:35:54Z

As the father's name.

Re: Ths abbreviation

StubbyTate — 2010-06-24 09:21:30Z

Where is it located specifically on the death certificate?