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Re: St Genevieves Providence New Westminster BC Canada

e_l_martin — 2013-02-23 04:28:36Z

Here is the contact info:
>I just happen to have the answer to your question. I tracked
>down the records after many, many, many phone calls. I was unfortunate enough to be there as a child. Horror story. Contact info below:

>Sisters of Providence
>Providence Center
>3005 119th Street
>Edmonton, Alberta
>T6J 5R5
>tel 780-436-7250
>fax 780-436-7255

Re: NEW BRUNSWICK PROTESTANT ORPHANS' HOME

JamesECraig09 — 2013-02-04 17:22:09Z

Hullo,

You might be interested in a brand new online forum for those connected with the NBPOH

http://nbpohstjohnnewb.proboards.com/index.cgi

Thanks,

James.

Re: New Brunswick Protestant Orphans Home

JamesECraig09 — 2013-02-04 17:02:30Z

Hi,
Just to say a brand new online forum is being set up for the NBPOH here:

http://nbpohstjohnnewb.proboards.com/index.cgi

Will be pleased to see folk there.

Thanks,

James.

Re: OLD ORPHANGES-SAINT jOHN NEWbRUNSWICK

JamesECraig09 — 2013-02-04 16:55:56Z

Hullo, I'm sorry I don't have any news that directly helps but I can tell you a brand new online forum is just being set up for those with connections to the New Brunswick Protestant Orphans Home in St John.

http://nbpohstjohnnewb.proboards.com/index.cgi

James.

Re: Orphanage, St John,New Brunswick, CAN

JamesECraig09 — 2013-02-04 16:50:25Z

A brand new free online forum is being set up for all of us to do with the NBPOH.

http://nbpohstjohnnewb.proboards.com/index.cgi

It would be great to have some company there.

Thanks,

James.

Re: Winnipeg Orphanage

whoami19471972 — 2013-01-18 10:47:05Z

I remember the dumb waiter in the dining room.The only guy I remember who came there was named gerald Sanderson if I remember correctly.Was there a nun named sister vincent there when you were? That nun hit me in the face with a strap and I ran outside and hid under the front steps.Not too many good memories there for me.Did you ever go to camp Morton? I think I left there in 1962 for a foster home in Stonewall.I,m pretty sure Gerald used to be a resident at ST. Josephs.

Re: Winnipeg Orphanage

mike2_3_1955 — 2013-01-17 22:46:07Z

Hi, I remember sister mary Marcia (who was very nice to everyone)and sister mary Charles very well. I was there from summer 1962 to late summer 1966
I would like to aquire photos of the inside of St. Joseph's
Do you remember the wavy glass room deviders and bathing 2 at a time and the dumb waiter that traveled from the kitchen to the dining room. I remember being taught to play hockey and other sports by some guy I don't recall the name of. I enjoyed my time there as much as I could but I dreaded Sundays because that's when my Mother showed-up. When she came she would ask sister superior if I was good all week and if she was told I did or said anything bad she would beat me. She always brought a wooden spoon in her purse and would beat my knuckles with it. When sister superior found out one day what my Mother was doing to me, she called Children's Aid and I was placed with a foster family on a farm in Notre Dame de Lourdes where my Mother could not have any contact, that was nice.
Michael

Re: Winnipeg Orphanage

whoami19471972 — 2013-01-17 11:16:34Z

Hi, I was there from March 1957 til 1962. Sister marcia was the mother superior when I left. As for the other,never heard of her.There was sister Clarisse (laundry and day care)sister charles was in charge of younger boys and sister Cornelius in charge of the older boys.What years were you there?

Re: Winnipeg Orphanage

greengoblet2011 — 2013-01-16 13:05:03Z

Does anyone remember Sister Superior M. Marcia? or sister Carmelita? I have pics of the building, does anyone else? thanks, Barry

Re: St Genevieves Providence New Westminster BC Canada

trwatson — 2013-01-16 01:06:28Z

I haven't been able to find out anything. Would love it if someone has some information

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

R_VDoherty — 2013-01-15 18:55:41Z

Hello Angela,
Well, here I am still searching for that elusive family of Doherty's. I've been informed about 2 mos. ago that my father-in-law was registered in the River Charlo School in 1918, that would make him at least 6 yrs. old. Therefore, his given birth date of April 7, 1915 is a total fabrication. I also found his on Ancestry.com as the son of Milton Doherty(who would have been the brother of the adoptive David Doherty) and then he disappears and is not on the 1911 census in N.B. Someone in N.B. Archives is working on this for me. He is suppose to be contacting James Sweeney but haven't heard anything since before Xmas. I am very sad and disheartened that it has come to this only. My husband who would have loved to know his origins in some miracle way, has bone cancer and a few months left. I can only pray that someone comes up with a hint! Have you been successful in finding your mother's orphanage where she lived, etc.
Take care

Re: City Hospital Hamilton Orphans Home (Hamilton, Ontario Canada)

Kosborne59 — 2013-01-14 23:38:54Z

it might be 170 Caroline Street South, Hamilton

Re: St Genevieves Providence New Westminster BC Canada

BarbaraPattieDePourcq — 2013-01-14 00:18:56Z

I'm not sure if we are talking about the same Orphanage, but that's due to the fact that until more recently I had not heard of, nor knew my Grandfather had been placed in it. I have little knowledge about it, but I thought it was simply named "Providence Orphanage", and that it was located in New Westminster, B.C. I am kind of hoping that you have found the answers to your inquiry about this subject, and that you maybe able to share & educate me as well. The only other info I have is that I need to search their intake records on children accepted there sometime around 1911-1928. I'm aware that's very little in the researching world, but as you'll probably agree it is something, and that's so much more than nothing. ANything you may have on this would be so greatly appreciated.

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

LynnClement54 — 2013-01-03 18:08:10Z

Oops...the link will take you to the photo that you can download but the website is

www.soeursdelachariteottawa.com

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

LynnClement54 — 2013-01-03 18:06:28Z

Good morning

The photo is the property of the Ottawa Sisters of Charity. I don't have a hard copy but you can probably get one from the Archivist. Here is the website with coordinates I think. If you can't reach the archivist let me know. I want to visit the premises soon and will ask about the photo.

http://www.soeursdelachariteottawa.com/Francais/histoire/hie...

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

jpgingras — 2012-12-31 18:42:00Z

I was raised there. How can I get that photo, please ?

J-P.

Re: Winnipeg Orphanage

whoami19471972 — 2012-09-26 14:34:36Z

Hi Mike,I was there from 1957-1962 and the nuns I remember were Sister mary Charles in charge of the younger boys.Sister Cornelius the older boys.Sister Clarice the launry and day care.Then there was Sister mary Marcia who was in charge of the nuns.There was a nun named sister mary Vincent who also helped with the younger boys,but I had a bad experience with that one and will never forgive her.The priest Father Griese had two Boston bull terriers and lived at the South end of the building.While I was there,one boy tried to hang himself because the nuns would't let him go to the theatre for some reason.His name was Randy Kreitz,and he was there with his brother.There's more,but enough said .

Re: Winnipeg Orphanage

mike2_3_1955 — 2012-09-26 03:47:11Z

Hi, I was also a resident in St Joseph's Vocational School. That was from 1962 to 1966
The nuns were very nice. Does anyone remember how the school teacher carried a very bad odour. And the guy that taught all of us varius sports, he was a nice person.
Michael

Katie Brown

rosyrae1 — 2012-09-17 22:02:57Z

Trying to find information on my gr.gr.grandmother, Katie Brown. She died in 1907 in Gray, ME. Her tombstone lists her year of birth as 1863. My grandmother has done some research and was told that she was born in Ontario, Canada. I found an 1871 census that mentioned Hamilton's Ward. According to the census, she was listed as being in industrial school at the age of 8. Not sure what that means. Unfortunately, I cannot find any mention of her parents. Her death record lists her parents as "unknown." Because her name is so common, it is difficult to determine if this is her or not. I have also tried using Katherine or Catherine as first names, but both her marriage certificate (this does not mention parents either) and death certificate list her as Kate or Katie. At this point, I am thinking that she was an orphan, but I would like to prove it!

Protestant home Halifax chldren

Ingham_Randy — 2012-08-22 00:03:48Z

Any records for the Protestant Home orphanage in Halifax, NS for 1860s?

Re: St Genevieves Providence New Westminster BC Canada

kladislaus — 2012-08-18 19:44:58Z

Hi,

Yes. I will look for the contact info and forward to you. I must have written a letter rather than email as I cannot find anything in my email.

Re: St Genevieves Providence New Westminster BC Canada

trwatson — 2012-08-18 19:17:51Z

I am looking for the same thing.. Did anyone reply to you - I know this is an old message. My brother in law's father was there an we know nothing about his family, the orphanage, etc.

thanks.

Re: Toronto Orphanage Located at 339 George Street, Toronto - 1911

MarieMikolich — 2012-08-04 02:53:38Z

Hello: I have discovered two brothers to my Great Grandfather(Frederick) that are listed in the 1911 Census at this orphanage- Harold and Herb (Hubert)Morgan. Frederick was already an adult by this time. He was killed in WW1 when my Grandfather was only 4 years old. Harold and Herb came to CAnada in 1909 with their mother Frances Joanna Morgan nee Manley but she died in 1910. I am hoping decendants of other boys at the home at that time may have remembered Herb and Harold and have some info as to what happened to them. We suspect that one of them ended up in New York City but more research needed. If anyone can help..would be fantastic!! Thanks

Re: Toronto Orphanage Located at 339 George Street, Toronto - 1911

rarmstro107 — 2012-08-01 19:49:43Z

I am not sure but I think my Dad was there because he had been living with his Mother and she died. He never told me about this when he was alive. He lived to be 91 but died in March 1996.

I am under the understanding that this home was run by the City of Toronto but I have not been able to find other information about it.

Re: Toronto Orphanage Located at 339 George Street, Toronto - 1911

Brownbridgefamily — 2012-07-31 03:06:37Z

Why were the boys sent to this home? I know their parents were alive in 1911 with an infant son living with his parents and the other two ages 7 and 9.

Re: Toronto Orphanage Located at 339 George Street, Toronto - 1911

Brownbridgefamily — 2012-07-31 03:02:54Z

I have members on my family tree that lived at 339 George Street in the 1911 census. Do you know why boys were sent to live as "inmates" in the home?

St Thomas and London Ontario Orphanages

georgiekennedy1 — 2012-07-22 02:31:40Z

I would like to know the names of any orphanages operating in these two cities 1911 to 1914.
My grandmother and her sister were sent to live in one. I believe Dr. Tillmann was in charge of the children's health. They were first in the Children’s Shelter under the care of the Children’s Aid Society at 113 Wellington Street, St. Thomas.

Re: Orphanage - St John, New Brunswick, Canada.

Pawl1957 — 2012-04-15 23:30:40Z

I lived at the Orphange not sure what year I arrived but left to live in the Stephem Wiggins Home for Boys in 1963 I created a web site dedicated to it here http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/pawl/ the only things I remember about the P.O. was two girls I suspect were in their late teens whose job was to look after us locking the door to the ward so the other boys could beat me up and the old guy that ran the boiler room locking me the coal room when he finally let me and the other child that was with me out it was dark outside so I was in the room for quite awhile. Some woman that had a working room next to my ward taking my pants down and beating my bare bottom with a strap she was hitting me for so long that another boy had to tell her to stop or he would report her. I was 5 years old at the time. My backside hurt for along time after that and I had great difficilty sitting at meals.

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

LynnClement54 — 2012-04-15 16:30:30Z

Thank you.....I was able to retrieve a photo from the Centre Elizabeth Bruyère archives, that I will post in my Family Tree later today. The photo looks like it was taken in the 40`s and there is a banner announcing a fundraising Bazaar on the side of the building.

The archive indicates that the Orphanage stood at Sussex and Cathcart Street but I will visit the Archive when I have time to get more information.

Thanks for your help on this .

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

Lucie07 — 2012-04-15 01:59:08Z

I am not surprised it is gone now. Too bad the statue was not kept. It meant a lot to my 2 uncles that were raised there to see the statue years ago when they revisited the site.

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

Lucie07 — 2012-04-15 01:57:58Z

Hi Lynn. Apparently the statue is gone now. Two of my uncles were raised at that orphanage and they both visited the site years ago and shared with me the feelings surrounding the remaining statue. That was a long time ago. Too bad it has now been removed and that condos are standing there now.

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

remi_vezina — 2012-04-15 00:34:12Z

i went to that orphanage... and returned lately to the site... a lot of condos... did not see a statue...

Re: Orphanage - St John, New Brunswick, Canada.

laura7reid — 2012-04-11 03:07:41Z

I have a picture of the home. It is not a good one,
but nonetheless it's the place.
I was there from 1946 to 1954.

Re: Orphelinat Saint Joseph

LynnClement54 — 2012-04-04 21:34:04Z

Hello

You indicated that a statue is standing in Rockliffe; can you tell me where?

Thanks!

Re: Winnipeg Orphanage

whoami19471972 — 2012-01-20 15:26:19Z

Yes to that.St Josephs'vocational school on Portage avenue was a catholic orphanage that I was in from 1957-1962.They were right across from empress street and next door to the cemetary across from polo park.

Re: Orphanage in Manitoba

whoami19471972 — 2012-01-20 15:20:50Z

Do you know the name of the orphanage? I was in a catholic one called St. Josephs'vocational school on Portage avenue.The only thing we learned there, was how to be a good catholic.I have never been baptised and yet,they let me serve benediction,but would not let me serve mass.Never was I asked if I wanted to be baptised.There are probably more out there that I don't know about.

Re: City Hospital Hamilton Orphans Home (Hamilton, Ontario Canada)

L4hpilot — 2011-09-28 16:37:43Z

The Hamilton Ontario Library (on the web) has records from 1848 to ? of the records of the 'Hamilton Orphan Asylum'. The research librarian will be able to tell you the coverage dates. There are also some Ontario Provincial documents relating to inspections of hospitals and orphanages on 'Google Books' that may be of interest. I didn't see any street ID for the various institutions, but with the correct name and city directory or phone book it likely one could find the address. There seem to be a number of possible institutions in Hamilton for orphans, e.g. boys, girls, Catholic, and the Hamilton Hospital.
I picked up on this string when I was searching for information on a British Home Child who was destined for 'Hamilton, Ont" but with no specific institution identified.
How far back in time did the Children's Aid Society woman say that her records covered?

Re: Orphanage - St John, New Brunswick, Canada.

oceangrlz — 2011-09-27 17:34:45Z

I am looking for a photo of NBPOH, as my mother and her three sisters were residing there in the 1940's. I would like any information you might have. I am not a Godkin but any help would be most appreciated.
Julia

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

R_VDoherty — 2011-09-14 11:47:23Z

Hello Angela,
Gosh, you are a mircle to me....honestly...James Sweeny, with whom I spoke to after I received my Pop's baptismal cert. along with a burial cert. from him. I also have found(after Pop passed on Jan.2/94 and Mumsy in Nov.98) documents that we didn't know existed. Pop was in the RCAF and registered in Mtl. in 1940. The legal document was signed by several people including a lawyer from my home town(now deceased), a Mrs. Curphey whose granddaughter told me by email that she had been in Quebec City and was a midwife at one time bk. in the early 1900's. I will ck. this doc. today to see what other signatures are on it. I believe we have a couple of statements from other peopl, one being Mrs. Curphey(who relocated to N.S. later). The document is a fake as far as I am concerned. The registration officer(RCAF) told my Pop that they cudn't find his mother and that she was probably a hooker!!! Nice to hear that as yu are readying to go off to war heh!
This was a family thing...some Doherty's are involved ... just don't who..yet...
It so happens that Pop was brought up in Charlo, N.B. I am from Dalhousie(5 mi.away) and met my hubby in Mtl. in 1970..small world...I will get bk. to yu ok..

Thanks a million and a big hug for your help.

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

Pangela84 — 2011-09-14 11:15:50Z

Hi Rachel,

It's my pleasure. Just out of curiosity, what is 'laq'?

I have contacted James Sweeney of the Bishops Queen University (he's the archivist you mentioned)...he is going to see if my great grandmother is on a register roll for the Female Orphan Asylum (Church of England). I am waiting patiently as he probably has so much to do before he gets to my look-up. Do you know what kind of information you got from him? I hope it's you who had e-mailed him one time about your ancestor and that I am not confusing you with someone else!! I'm a customer of ancestry...I love genealogy.

Sincerely, Angela

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

R_VDoherty — 2011-09-14 02:06:26Z

I've been in touch with the Jeffery Hale Hospital(the present one is the 2nd. The first existed before 1956 and they wrote me informing me that they do not have the records of the old hospital. I'm thinking that before the Prov. took it over, it belonged to the Anglican Church probably. My mother in law always said that it was a hospital that kept orphans.

Now who in the heck would have such records except the original owners.
I just readh yur email ref. Rose/Rosa Heath. Amazing, all I could find on her was her arrival on the Virginian in Halifax in 1911, or 1913???wud have to ck. my records.
Yu must belong on ancestry and laq? I'll start looking in those two families...never know what yul find....You are a very kind genealogy angel...really appreciate it, especially that it's been a 38 yr. search...Best regards
Rachel

Re: City Hospital Hamilton Orphans Home (Hamilton, Ontario Canada)

authantique — 2011-08-14 02:22:02Z

Hi Kevin and all.
There's actually a woman named Katie who works at the Hamilton Children's Aid Society who has old records and is willing to go through them. She couldn't find anything on the kids I was researching but there are lots of records in their care. Her number: 905 522 1121 x 6522

Re: City Hospital Hamilton Orphans Home (Hamilton, Ontario Canada)

KevinHall56 — 2011-08-10 20:17:39Z

Aly

The only information I have about an orphanage in Hamilton came from the 1871 census. I was looking for my great grandfather and he appeared on the census as a12 year old but having someone else (i.e. with a different surname) as head of the household. It turns out thta the head of the household was female and the orphange matron. He was living there with his four younger brothers . Orphanges were divided by sex and females went to other institutions or other parts of the same institution without mixing. Curiously most children put into orphanges were placed because one parent could not afford the expense of raising a child. I am still looking for the parents. Hope this helps.

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

Pangela84 — 2011-08-04 05:38:36Z

It's my pleasure :-)

Also make a note of the witnesses on both documents. For example, on Jeffrey's baptismal certificate, there are three witnesses other than Rev. Kelly. These names appear to be:
W.G. Leakle, Lenora F. Leakle and Mr J. Sharples. I have no idea what their association is.

On Geoffrey's burial record...there is William Sabin and James Keggeth or Neggeth (hard to read).

As for the ultrasound (which may be a last resort), the cemetery might know whom to use if you call them and explain what data you know. I can't find any trace of Rosa/Rose in Canada by using her maiden name or any possible married name. However, I find it easiest to work back from death to birth. You may have to order a death certificate from L'etat de Civil in Quebec...also check into whether you know what hospital your father-in-law was born in...sometimes you can call them and they have records.

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

R_VDoherty — 2011-08-04 05:09:07Z

Thank you so very much Angela...this is the first time in 40 yrs. that I've had that kind of co-operation and it is so very much appreciated. I've tried to find info on Rev. A.R.Kelley but can't seem to...he's definitely connected. Mount Hermon would have to be ordered to do all that jazz right, and by whom....

Re: Rosa / Rose Heath Possible Future Marriages

Pangela84 — 2011-08-04 03:00:35Z

Here is what I found:

J.H. BAUGH married Rosa HEATH on 1920-07-09 (Montreal, Quebec)
(Parish: Montreal /License de Marriage)

OR

Donald Earl MILLER married Rosetta Jane HEATH on 1939-08-28
at Knowlton (Br.) Parish in Coaticook (Stan); License de Marriage)

Perhaps the first gives us an idea of whom she married after she gave birth to your father-in-law (twins?)

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

Pangela84 — 2011-08-04 00:48:34Z

Wow some very interesting information!

If I am not mistaken, you had someone from Quebec physically see a tombstone/burial marker for your father-in-law who was said to have died in June of 1915 (obviously not the true case), right? If so, you could contact the cemetery, explain everything and/or ask how you would go about hiring someone to do ultrasound over that plot to see if someone is actually buried there or if it's vacant. Either it's empty or there is someone else's remains there which could warrant some investigation.

Secondly, consider that Geoffrey George Doherty may be your father-in-law's father's full name. You are right that he probably did come from a Doherty as it probably would have been a blood relative who took him in.

I'll keep searching...let me know what you have found also. My aunt in Montreal married a Doherty but I don't think is any relation?

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

R_VDoherty — 2011-08-04 00:17:36Z

The Burial Certificate that was sent to me was verified by a lady in Quebec City. She physically went Mount Hermon Cemetery and saw the burial for Geoffrey Gorge Heath, who died June 1915. If Rose Heath was the mother, then according to my father in law, the father would have been a friend of the Doherty family, etc. As he grew up he often overheard conversations with his older adoptive father and mother David W. and Mary(Bains) Doherty and friends, among them the Irving's of Saint John. A Doherty grandchild married one of JDI's brother. This couple were in their 60's when they took him in. I think something is weird...I have an Anglican prayer book(very small) with inscription "A. R. Kelley" and one inch below it is written " M. Mary Bains, 1916"....The Rev. A.R. Kelley was one of the folks that attested on the fake document..Too many questiions? I don't know where else to go to except that if I was at the Bishops' Archives, I would look for the approximate date and some Doherty, Reid, Spencer and gosh knows who else..many many Doherty's in the family then. One William Woodbury Doherty apparently killed someone (by accident so the courts believed) with the end of his umbrella..Can't seem to find out who he belongs to. This happened in Campbellton, N.B. and this man was a Doctor and distant relative to another Dr. Milton Doherty who was there then...W.W. Doherty left town and died in Shediac???N.B. Have to find out what date this happened but it was definitely in the early 1900's. Will email you another day ok.

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

Pangela84 — 2011-08-03 04:14:07Z

So far...I have found the same baptismal and baptismal/burial record that you probably have found from the Anglican church. However, I am still looking...my theory is that your dad's biological mother, who was 'unmarried' according to the records, wanted to save her reputation and save face so she paid the minister some money to pretend that her son had passed away quite suddenly when she really put him up for adoption. She then went back to England and some people took pity on her and some people felt sorry for her. Just a thought. The minister probably would have felt sorry for her.

Re: Church of England Male Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.

Pangela84 — 2011-08-03 04:01:44Z

Hi Rachel.

I sensed how urgent you were to find your ancestor - my ancestor Ernestine Bietsch (Beach in English) was placed in the Female Church of England Orphan Asylum, Quebec City, PQ.
I was able to find the information for her...let me see what I can come up with for you. Perhaps you already have this information but I will search anyhow! As for my ancestor, she was orphaned with her sister Elisabeth...their parents supposedly died on the ship. is one story the other is that their mother abandoned them and snuck out. They were never adopted, to my knowledge.

Cheers, Angela