There are no records for either man on the SAR Patriot Index online, but this does not cover all applications. You can get help from the
www.sar.org website by clicking on Membership and Research Service. The Research Service is an hourly-based search of the various sources available within the NSSAR Genealogical Research Library. The various sources available may include but are not limited to NSSAR applications, documentation records, family Bible, online services, and other Genealogical Societies.
The DAR site may have information on these ancestors.