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Running out of hope

Posted: 4 Jul 2013 8:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ducharme Bates Edrow Edro Adro
I am trying to trace my paternal lineage. I have been at it for many years and fear I may have gone as far as I can, so I am casting as wide a net as possible in the hopes someone might give me the break I need. The situation is a bit convoluted and I'm not really sure where to start or how to explain all the details without it becoming too confusing, but I will do my best.

Here is the basic tree:
Magloire Ducharme b. 1828 Canada d.1910 North Adams Ma. (my GGGGrandfather)
m1. Lucy Reves b.1841 Burlington Vt d.1880 Adams Ma.
Ch. Magloire b.1857 Rutland Vt d. 1938 North Adams Ma (my GGgrandfather)
Delia b. abt 1859 Vt
Duffy b. abt 1861 Vt
Eleanor b. abt 1864 Ma
Melina b. abt 1872 Ma
Louisa b. 1875 North Adams Ma
moblisse b. 1877 North Adams Ma

m2. Elizabeth
Ch. Nelson
Mary Rose
Clara
Matilda

Looks straight forward, but here are the problems. The only information here that is verifiable are events that occurred in North Adams (or Adams before it was split) and are on record. Everything else is unverified. For example, Lucy's death record lists her parents as John and Delia with her birthplace in Vt. I have been unable to find any records to support this.
The real big issue is that prior to 1881 the were going by the surname Bates. The earliest definitive record I have for the family is the 1865 MA census, Adams township. This record also lists Sr. and Jr. as Michael. The 1870 and 1880 Federal are the same with the exception of Michael changing to Mark. In 1880 Lucy Bates dies. In 1881 Magloire Sr. remarries to Elizabeth and both Jr. and Delia marry, all recorded as Ducharme. These are the first records where the Ducharme surname is used.
Just for clarification, the Children of Magloire Sr. and Lucy is a best guess, with the exception of Jr. and Delia (who are pretty well documented). There are several birth records for children named Bates born to a Mark and Lucy in North Adams before 1880. however, there are conflicts with names and dates, and I honestly haven't spent much time trying to sort it out. The most interesting info from those records is that they list Lucy's birth place as Burlington VT.
Finally, I have come across a couple records that might be pertinent. From the LDS website I found a birth record for a Delia Louisa Edrow b. Dec 3 1858 Wallingford township, Rutland VT to Michael and Lucy, and a birth record for Michael Adro b. Mar 9 1861 Wallingford, to Michael and Lucy (This record lists her maiden name as Rivers, Lucy's death record gives it as Reves). These seem to corroborate the info that Jr. was born may 13 1857 in Wallingford, but I have as yet been unable to confirm that. I was also able to find the 1860 Federal census for Wallingford listing Michael Adrow b.1826, his wife Lucy b. 1830, and children John b.1857 and Mary b.1858-59.
Of course there are more details but I think I have covered the most pertinent parts. I know this is a lot to read though and understand, and I thank if you took the time. I'm hoping someone out there can shed some light on this. Even the smallest bit of information would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or comments. Again I am very grateful for your time.

Sincerely,
Jeff Ducharme

Re: Running out of hope

Posted: 28 Jul 2013 1:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jul 2013 1:18PM GMT
Morning

Read it thru - interesting.
What's the first thing you want to 'dig' at?

Margaret

Edited: How did you come up with: they were using the surname Bates?

Re: Running out of hope

Posted: 28 Jul 2013 2:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
I found this:

Delia Ducharme Fontaine's death - lists mother's name as Lucy Rivers and father's first name as Maguire - informant was husband.

Margaret
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Re: Running out of hope

Posted: 28 Jul 2013 2:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Here's the 1880 Census - searched for Delia with mother equal to Lucy


Name: Delia Balis
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: North Adams, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: At Home
Race (Original): W
Ethnicity: American
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Vermont, United States
Birth Date: 1859
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Father's Name: Mark Balis
Father's Birthplace: Canada
Mother's Name: Lucy R. Balis
Mother's Birthplace: Canada
Page: 234
Page Letter: C
Entry Number: 4
Affiliate Film Number: T9-0521
GS Film number: 1254521
Digital Folder Number: 004241687
Image Number: 00472
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Mark Balis M 51 Canada
Wife Lucy R. Balis F 40 Vermont, United States
Son Mark Balis M 23 Vermont, United States
Daughter Delia Balis F 21 Vermont, United States
Son Duffy Balis M 19 Vermont, United States
Daughter Eleanor Balis F 16 Massachusetts, United States
Daughter Melina Balis F 8 Massachusetts, United States
Daughter Louisa Balis F 5 Massachusetts, United States
Son Marbelise Balis M 3 Massachusetts, United States
to Lucy.

Last name was indexed under Balis - probably Bates - can't look at actual record - I use familysearch - only index.

Margaret

Re: Running out of hope

Posted: 28 Jul 2013 3:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
1870 Bates - Adams MA

Margaret
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Re: Running out of hope

Posted: 28 Jul 2013 4:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jul 2013 5:10PM GMT
Attached is a marriage of Edward Ducharme that lists his father as Magloire and the mother as Matilda(Germain)

Margaret

Edited: Assuming that this Magloire is the son of Magloire Sr?????? but you have one of the daughters of Magloire and Elizabeth = Matilda????
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Re: Running out of hope

Posted: 28 Jul 2013 5:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jul 2013 5:33PM GMT
1900 Census Mark Ducharme and wife Elizabeth with children

Matilda's marriage listing parents - Magloire and Matilda


Margaret

Edited: Just figured it out - there was a Matilda born 1889 to Magloire and Matilda Ducharme and then a Matilda born 1891 to Mark and Elizabeth!!!
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