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Re: YOUNGER GANG

sistrishallen — 2013-05-30 02:34:40Z

im also related to the Younger Gang. looking for more info. my father is Danny Younger son of Ernie Younger

Re: Escaped murderer

MSGJDG — 2013-04-16 00:23:58Z

Hi Lee! It has been awhile! Hope you are doing good. I would love to have the pdf file about the trouble of our ancestors. By the way, I have done the Ancestry DNA just recently. I am still going thru the list of matching trees. I have found some Hereford/Harford and Hafford matches. It's been alot of fun. Thank you so much for doing this. My email is: snuffridge@att.net
Mary

Re: Escaped murderer

leehanson100 — 2013-04-15 20:07:34Z

I have transcribed the original court records (James Stanley was my gr-gr-grgrandfather). I have the document as a pdf file which I will send to people who request it.

Re: Hurley

snowflakedance — 2013-03-24 18:26:28Z

Hi Elizabeth (Betty) McCloy Hodge, you are my mother's cousin. I have pictures of your mom Catherine when she was a child, along with a quarentine notice of our family's history, The Hurley's came over on the ship called the SS Ivernia in the year 1900. I am on Facebook as is my daughter Heather Kristen Veliz, contace me.

Re: Jacob Painter changed name to Jacob Bender abt. 1852 PA.

tleer1 — 2013-03-17 01:57:32Z

this is interesting! So Catherine Bender/Painter's mother is Margaret, not Christina?

Re: Beverly Dickerson

RSpringgate — 2013-02-19 02:40:11Z

It's interesting how many Beverley James and James Beverley's there are in the family tree. Amanda named her youngest son James Beverley.

Re: Beverly Dickerson

MOUTREY — 2013-02-19 00:49:49Z

I have 9 children for BJ and Martha.
Laura 1845 KY
Jennie (Mary J.) 1847 KY d. 1921 Howard Co., MO
John S. 1849 KY
Nancy A. 1851 KY
Eliza 1853 KY
Richard 1855 KY
William S. 1858 KY
Beverly James 1859 Mercer KY d. 1934 Perryville, Mercer, KY
Franka (Frances A.) 1861 IN

Jennie, JOhn and another boy went to live with their uncle William R. Dickerson in Fayette, Howard Co., MO. Jennie married her cousin John Dickerson. Beverly James was the boy who went back to KY and was adopted.

Re: Beverly Dickerson

RSpringgate — 2013-02-18 19:38:49Z

Actually, I think you are referring to Franka. Although she waS living with Amanda and Richard in 1870, and was listed as 9 years old, subsequently she did go to live with other relatives (probably in Kentucky).

Re: Beverly Dickerson

MOUTREY — 2013-02-18 16:54:37Z

I can look at your file at Ancestry.com. I have a Family Finder (autosomal DNA) match with a Dickerson family in
Georgia so will look in your file for a link to the Dickerson's and related families in KY & Indiana.

If you send your email to owl@mcn.org I'll invite you to my Ancestry file. I've updated the Dickerson's but would like more information.

I read recently that the youngest son of BJ and Martha Schooling had been living with a man who had adopted him after his parents died and then they went back to KY where he grew up.

Re: Beverly Dickerson

RSpringgate — 2013-02-18 00:12:04Z

By the way, I'm always curious how we are related. I have about 900 Springate's, Dickerson's, etc., listed in my files. I'm the son of Richard Cleland Springgate, d. 1962, and my great-great grandmother was Amanda Dickerson. My grandfather used to tell me about her, as she was the historian in the family. One of the Watts-Hays letters refers to her as Cousin Mandy. B.J. was her brother, one of six children born between 1811 and 1820.

Re: Beverly Dickerson

RSpringgate — 2013-02-18 00:03:05Z

I didn't chase down Franka, but there is some more information out there. Perhaps a grave site? You can get the census report from Ancestry for 1870; just look for the Springgate's in El Paso, Woodford County, Illinois.

I have a file with Ancestry under Spring(g)ate's of KY. I'm not currently enrolled, although I hope to correct that soon, so I don't know if I can issue invitations. They just jumped their monthly price by $5.00 for the International records.

I have the records for the Dickerson's going back to Thomas and Susannah Dickerson in the late 1600's. Others have tried to link them to Dickensons (which they then carry back to English royalty) but the change in names (not uncommon) and the dates are problematical.

Re: Beverly Dickerson

MOUTREY — 2013-02-17 17:43:09Z

Hi, I took the tavern keeper information from an article about BJ's death. It also reported that he was the marshal of Franklin. I checked the footnotes at the Watts Hays Letters (www.wattshaysletters.com) but did not put in the article. Look at Letters 52 and 55 in the Civil War Section. I received some information from a post at The Civil War in Indiana site.

Franka was my 2nd cousin 3xR. I'd like to put more information about Franka in my file - who she married, her children and where she lived. Do you have an online file?

Re: Beverly Dickerson

RSpringgate — 2013-02-17 03:41:59Z

B.J. was born in Mercer County, KY. He was one of six children. As far as I know, he was never a tavern keeper. In 1863 he was a sheriff, and was gunned down while escorting a prisoner. One daughter, Franka, went to live with his sister, Amanda Dickerson Springgate, in El Paso, Il, and was listed in the 1870 Census as part of the family (listed as a 9 year old son, but actually a girl).

Amanda is my great-great grandmother.

Re: Henry J. Fernekes aka 'the midget'

1_sq22 — 2012-08-13 15:26:02Z

I have an FBI wanted poster dated August 29, 1935 for Henry J. or 'Midget' Fernekes. It has his thumbprints, mugshots, criminal record, relatives, physical description, alias', signature, etc. It will be coming to auction in October, 2012. If anyone is interested email me at sq@waddingtons.ca Sean

Re: Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck, notorious horsethief

circa_1948 — 2012-04-03 07:39:08Z

check your email

Re: Henry J. Fernekes aka 'the midget'

CLussky — 2012-03-30 22:16:55Z

I'm a 2nd cousin twice removed from Henry from the Darche side (his mother). I'd love to learn more about him. I'm particularly interested in the shop he had near Pearl River New York. The articles I've found said it was some type of electrical shop. If anyone has more info I'd love to get it AND hear the stories you've gathered.

Carol

Re: Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck, notorious horsethief

RisingAuthor — 2012-03-23 22:52:09Z

Hi,
I noticed your post about Sebastian "Boss" Buck, and I was wondering if you would please email me the titles of the historical books, or any other information you have mentioning him? I am very much interested in this subject, because I am very attached to Knox Borough and its history. My email address is audreykline95@yahoo.com. Thank you for sharing such information.

Re: Jacob Uriah Edwards

CZNBJL2 — 2012-02-01 21:09:34Z

I found another copy of the newspaper article and the ______ Barnes can be changed to William Barnes.

Re: John Jennings Gang W. VA

brendaemery69 — 2012-01-18 19:38:15Z

I have no specific info on the Cherokee connection to Orpha, all I can tell you at this point is that the same info came down my family line (through her brother John and his son Frank) the tradition stating that the grandmother was a Cherokee indian. I have a family tree online here at ancestry entitled ALL MY KIN with the info I have on this family and their ancestors.
Brenda Emery

Re: John Jennings Gang W. VA

dwc1109 — 2012-01-18 05:32:56Z

i saw this old post and was wondering if you had any info on orpha jennings?married to nicholas cross,orpha was a sister to old john jennings from what i have learned and some of my cousins claim my gg grandfathers bible said she was cherokee indian,i also have read this claim on here but nothing to support it,any help would great,thank you,dave cross,

Re: Henry J. Fernekes aka 'the midget'

jmdarche — 2012-01-14 19:57:00Z

Please get a hold of me as soon as one of you get on. [jmdarche@gmail.com] I am Henry's great-great grandson. He used the name Henry J. Darche and had a son, Robert J. Darche. I would really like to know more thank you so much.

Re: Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com

Scismgenie — 2012-01-08 21:19:01Z

http://ibssg.org/blacksheep/

Re: Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com

cwright1126 — 2012-01-08 20:08:52Z

Is there an updated website? The current link is a page of how-to code.

Thanks.

Re: Hurley

clairemfalvey — 2011-10-20 06:24:18Z

Hi I am related to Hurley's in Taranaki, coming from Hurleyville.

Would love to know where you fit in
clairemfalvey@hotmail.com

Re: Hurley

pearldawn — 2011-09-07 03:14:31Z

just checking out .i am looking for a michael hurley that married mary oshea,michael was a stonemason. had a son michael born in ireland about 1860.thanks

Re: Shirley Duck

ellenduck — 2011-08-30 02:58:19Z

What year was the Shirley duck born, that your looking for?
I'm a Duck so maybe I could help

Re: Barrington, NH scandal?

dana_staab — 2011-04-14 18:59:31Z

I'm related to the Leathers who changed their name to Palmer. One theory of the name change is that some Leathers were "gypsies" who engaged in theft, among other crimes. See an article by poet John Greenleaf Whittier which mentions them (http://www.wordiq.com/books/Yankee_Gypsies/8).

I've been unable to find out what the last straw was that caused so many to change their names. It may be in the state archives in Concord; name changes were handled by the state legislature. Maybe someone closer to NH than me (I'm in Florida) can find out for us.

See http://genforum.genealogy.com/hanscom/messages/313.html for a theory, though even fratricide doesn't seem to me to be reason for so many people to hide their family ties (doesn't everyone in a small town know everyone else, regardless of name?) Unless they were Quakers, which is highly doubtful.

Re: Henry J. Fernekes aka 'the midget'

sxeseenur1 — 2011-04-07 02:21:43Z

just thought id let you know that iam a relative of the midget....my greatgrandmother was his cousin who came to the jail to visit him...i was lucky to have her in my life until 1974 and got to hear all her stories...

Re: Theodore F. Schumacher

PatPoore365485 — 2011-02-17 03:35:21Z

Did you ever find Theodore?

In the late 1920's an unknown SCHUMACHER fathered a child in Prince Georges Co., MD, a suburb of DC. Following is the only information we have. The child's mother stated that SCHUMACHER was a musician and spent time in jail. Following is the only information we have found.

In the 1930 Census for Hyattsville, Prince Georges Co., Maryland, at 2 Goodman Avenue, Ernest POORE appears as the head of household, rents his home for $20 per month, and does not live on a farm. He is 23 years old, and married at age 22. He did not attend school since 1 September 1929 and can read and write. He and his parents were born in DC, and he speaks English. His occupation is shipping clerk at a warehouse company. The other occupants of the household are Virginia POORE, wife, 23 years old, married at 23, did not attend school in 1929, can read and write, born in Arkansas, parents born in Arkansas, speaks English and has no occupation; SCHUMACHER, Virginia, stepdaughter, 2 years old, single, did not attend school in 1929, born in Maryland, father born in Missouri, mother born in Arkansas. (The family knows Virginia SCHUMACHER as Helen Juanita POORE.)

Re: Buck, black sheep

knightsbbs — 2011-01-29 01:59:30Z

Elaine,

The email address didn't work, so hopefully you'll respond to this post.

My name is Don Johnson, and I am a descendant of Parmer Ensign Buck, he was my great-grandfather. My grandmother was Persis Ethylene Buck. I've been trying to trace my roots. My grand-mother married Charles Franklin Mead, and I've been able to trace his family all the back to William Mead who came from England in 1635. However, the Buck family has been hard to trace. I'm hoping you have gathered further information.

knightsbbs@comcast.net

Re: bart thrasher

ukeguy — 2011-01-04 00:22:36Z

Bart Thrasher was not related to me. He is just an colorful character that my dad often mentioned when he told stories about growing up in West Blocton, Alabama. These stories had to do with Bart being an infamous "desperado" who was active in Bibb County, Alabama. One of those stories was that Bart Thrasher and his gang (as it was told to me) one day found my uncle, who was a young boy at the time, playing on a bridge across a creek, when Bart came along and threw him into the creek. My uncle said he did not know how to swim, but he learned how to that day! Interestingly, my uncle who was thrown into the creek was Julius Israel, who later became the father of Mel Allen (Israel), the famous baseball announcer for the New York Yankees.

Bill 1/3/11

Re: bart thrasher

TammyMcCaffey1 — 2011-01-03 23:45:58Z

I was married to Bart Thrashers cousin for Ten years. I'm
sure we could converse. Let me know if you'd like to talk.

1/03/11 Tammy

Re: bart thrasher

TammyMcCaffey1 — 2011-01-03 23:45:56Z

I was married to Bart Thrashers cousin for Ten years. I'm
sure we could converse. Let me know if you'd like to talk.

1/03/11 Tammy

Re: Barrington, NH scandal?

AiliPauline — 2010-12-26 21:10:50Z

Thanks!

Re: Barrington, NH scandal?

jean03051 — 2010-12-23 19:11:05Z

Hi, there are still Tuttles in the immediate area. I will check with them and with old Barrington records after the New Year holidays.

Jean

Re: Barrington, NH scandal?

jean03051 — 2010-12-23 19:08:33Z

The first part of 2011 I will check into old Barrington records and see if I can find anything. Their Historical Society is only open by appointment so it will take a while

J

Re: Barrington, NH scandal?

kemery1389 — 2010-12-22 03:09:01Z

Hi...I am also finding this information about Leathers City. I have a Walter Freeman (b.1881 d.1967) marrying a Effie Tyler (b.1881 d.1957). Both Walter and Effie are supposed to have been from around the Leathers city area and I am having trouble finding information on Effie's parents. Any information that you may have would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Earl Clark

laurabreeden1 — 2010-08-25 03:02:30Z

researching Earl Clark date of birth November 18, 1913 in Tennessee, date of death January 13, 1972 in Chicago, IL. To my knowledge, lived in North Dakota, California, St. Louis and Chicago. Anyone with information on Earl Clark, please reply. Thank you.

Re: Barrington, NH scandal?

AiliPauline — 2010-08-07 15:16:24Z

Add me to your list of interested people.

My ancestor, Lois Leathers of Barrington, married Daniel Tuttle of Dover in Dec. 1779. They relocated to Turner Maine.

If anyone has a History of Barrington or other Vital Records book, I'd appreciate a lookup on her and her family. Know nothing other than her marriage which was recorded in Dover, and her death in Maine.

Re: Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck, notorious horsethief

circa_1948 — 2010-07-31 22:57:07Z

trying to make a connection but I have no Fitz Buck (with as extensive a family as the Buck's, not surprising) ...
No Mary Jane either, when was your g-mother born? Is she alive now?
If u oike, can u send me a basic family sheet so i can find a link?
If so, send to circa_1948@hotmail.com
Thx
Sunny

Re: Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck, notorious horsethief

elainegoebel — 2010-07-31 18:30:42Z

boss buck was my grandmothers grandfather, lena and fitz buck were my grandmothers parents her name is maryjane. and iam her grandaughter. my grandmother and family are from pennslyvia

Re: Old newspaper clippings

CathySisson58 — 2010-07-24 04:04:05Z

You know, I actually thought about doing that. I contacted some of the libraries and genealogy societies. They didn't have a clue who the people were and weren't really interested in just loose clippings.

I did receive some inquiries about them from posting on the boards. They were family members who replied and I sent them a copy. Now I have them on Flickr where, hopefully, they'll get more exposure.

Re: Old newspaper clippings

CathySisson58 — 2010-07-24 04:01:01Z

I finally put them on Flickr. They'll get more exposure that way. I hope!

Re: Prison Records

circa_1948 — 2010-07-22 01:22:29Z

forgot to answer, no I am in Wa state but was born in Canton, Ohio. Lived there a whole 9 months in 1948 when parents moved us to California.
I found out my dad had been incarcerated in a group that is now defunct that was on MSN where the owners were in Guernsey County and searched old papers. Once I saw he had been busted for larceny with a friend I followed up from there getting his prison records. I also found his father-in-law was busted as well but unlike my dad, his FIL was well respected in the community but fell on hard times when his asthma caused him not able to work to support his large family.
My archives on this PC (abt 2 gig now)are digital and then I also have a section of resources to check as well. Some are online, some only by snail mail.

Re: Prison Records

circa_1948 — 2010-07-22 01:14:43Z

Hi Julia (Baaabaaaaa)
I never search a particular newspaper-just because a particular paper is not avail doesn't mean items were not printed in other papers/other towns etc.
I ONLY search name, year span and state. Like with paper names, I never pinpoint a city either. Remember too that in older times news was not only printed locally but in a person's home town or any town they lived at any appreciable amount of time. Back then news/gossip traveled fast to one's root areas.
If you'd like me to look around send me the data to circa_1948@hotmail.com
sunny sheep IBSSG

Re: Prison Records

seekerJay — 2010-07-21 18:19:27Z

Ooooops! Never mind..."old newspaper archives...".

Do you live in Ohio? I find it frustrating that I can't find Cleveland newspapers in the NewspaperArchive. If you know of any online sources, please post.

All the best, Julia IBSSG

Re: Searching for Family History

seekerJay — 2010-07-21 18:16:21Z

It's so sweet that all these relatives found you after you left them this sign post. After 10 years, it's starting to happen to me, too.

How are things going? Were you able to discover your family history? I'm so happy for you!

Re: Prison Records

seekerJay — 2010-07-21 18:11:40Z

How did you find out that your father was incarcerated? Is there an index somewhere?

I can't find my uncle (14 yo) or my father (26 yo) in the 1930 Census no how. Given their later histories, I can't but think, "Jail???", though I don't really know.

They were from Cleveland. Poor Cleveland.

Re: Old newspaper clippings

seekerJay — 2010-07-21 18:05:31Z

At the least, you could assemble them into a album/scapbook (no glue or tape!) and give them to the local genealogical/historical society. It'll be known as the Cathy Sisson Album, thereby making you an official White Sheep.

.^_^.

Re: William Neville Hamilton, England, 1889

jachamparso1 — 2010-04-22 07:15:25Z

HI have you tried FREEBMD? as the name suggests it's free.