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William Hinksman

James Hinksman (View posts)
Posted: 1 Jun 2006 9:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
hi trying to find a William Hinksman Born scotland 1841 1844 that took part in seeking gold in california can anyone help
j_hinks@hotmail.co.uk

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 2:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
did he wind up in BC?

Name: William Hinksman
Gender: Male
Age: 90
Death Date: 5 May 1933
Place of Death: Nanaimo
Registration #: 1933-09-483790
bca #: B13148
gsu #: 1952855


Name: William Hinksman
Event: Born
Year: Abt 1844
Province: British Columbia
Place: Scotland
Source: Extracts from the 1891 Federal Census of British Columbia, Microfilm #T6290-T6292, National Archives of Canada, Ottawa.
Volume/Page: FN499

Name: William Hinksman
Event: Living
Year: 1881
Province: British Columbia
Place: Nanaimo & Noonas Bay
Comments: Miner.
Source: Extracts from the 1891 Federal Census of British Columbia, Microfilm #T6290-T6292, National Archives of Canada, Ottawa.
Volume/Page: FN499

Name: William Hinksman
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relationship: Son
Father's name: John
Mother's name: Elspeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Largo, Fife
Parish Number: 452
Civil parish: Pittenweem
Town: Pittenweem
County: Fife
Address: James Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1851_93
Household Members: Name Age
David Hinksman 7
Elspeth Hinksman 33
Jean Hinksman 10 Mo
Jessie Hinksman 5
John Hinksman 34
John Hinksman 3
William Hinksman 9


Name: William Hinksman <-----a coal miner
Home in 1900: Coaldeo, Coos, Oregon
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Birthplace: Scotland
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Race: White
Occupation: View image
Immigration year: 1870

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 9:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much indeed, very kind of you, Yes he did end up in BC, the problem we have here is attempting to find where he landed in America, as it does say there his immagration year was 1870, i have seen the census for 1851 from pittenweem fife and see william on it, i cant find him on the census for Scotland in 1861. Myself and this William Hinksman grandson have been looking for the arrival place and date for this William Hinksman for about Two years and still cant find him landed anywhere, do you know of anywhere we could find him, i think he may well as some family put it went via Panama to the west coast of America, but am not sure if the canal was built by then, as it is we are unable to find him leaving Scotland or arriving anywhere,

regards jim

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 2:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
Yes the canal wasn't finished until around 1913 give or take a few years (1913 is stuck in my head it may have been a year or two later)

Major ports back then, or at least my best guess for his landing.
California if he had a bit of money, New Orleans if he had less and any east coast port if he were even poorer. The reason I am saying this is it was a terrible trip cross country from the east coast, dangerous, rough etc.

It was not a trip you'd take if you could avoid, sea trips were no princess cruise back then but were FAR better than a train or stagecoach trip. I'm not positive the transcontinental was complete at 1870 his year of arrival.
So it may have been a stagecoach/horse only trip.

Before sticking to the 1870 date and searching for his arrival then, I'd make sure.
Make a timeline for him. Then check for mining claims,voters lists and other documents in BC that list last address/year of immigration etc.

check sessional papers, he signed this petition;
Petitions Against the 'Settlement Act'
from Nanaimo and Comox
from the Sessional Papers of the British Columbia Government, 1883-4
PETITION
(Nanaimo)
To the Honourable the Speaker and Members of the Legislative Assembly of the, Province of British Columbia. GENTLEMEN: We, the undersigned Electors of the constituency of Nanaimo, in the Province of British Columbia beg respectfully to, protest against the passage, by the Legislative Assembly of the Province, of the Bill entitled the "Settlement Act," and beg to submit for your consideration our objections thereto, as follows, viz.:- 1. That the "Settlement Act" virtually creates a monopoly, inasmuch as it makes no stipulation that the Dominion Government shall transfer the Railway Reserve to the Railway Company under provisions thaf shall secure to the public,the right to purchase Agricultural, Timber and Coal Lands at any fixed price or in any definite quantity, or that the regulations provided for the purchase of Coal Lands from the Dominion Government in other parts of the Dominion have not been made to apply to the Vancouver Island Railway Reserve; 2. That the said Act discourages coal mining by exempting from taxation, until occupied, all the lands to, be transferred to the proposed Railway Company; 3. Your Petitioners would impress upon your consideration the necessity of amending the Act so, as to provide against the - possible creation of a monopoly in the chief resources of the Province; And your Petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray, &c

NFS may be able to help.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/nfhs/

No Date Surname Forename Parent Names/Frame No. Sex Parish GROS Data Image Extract
1 13/11/1841 HINKSMAN WILLIAM JOHN HINKSMAN/ELSPETH HUTCHISON FR413 M NEWBURGH 450/00 0002

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 3:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for that, i have along aith my relative this William Hinksman grandson been attempting to see if we can find information about him my timeline is as follows

1841-- born scotland William Hinksman
Parents John Hinksman Elspeth Hutchinson

1851--- Census for pittenween Fife aged 9

1861---- not on Scottish census

1870---- says he was naturlizsed on this year

1881 everything after this date we have, seem he left from somewhere to go to north america, we have looked and looked and cant find him anywhere on a ship passenger list etc, you would think someone in the states would have access to a record that showed where he arrived as he is recorded as immagration i 1870

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 3:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Whoo hoo 30 years, between 1851 and 1881

Searching for one person on a ship at *any* port in the US and poss Canada is a needle in a haystack.

I don't think he naturalized only show immigrated. Although I would get the file from NARA if he did NAT as that would have clues.

I would fill in the blanks with clues if it were me, he sued Emanuel Jack in Nanaimo...same surname as his 2nd wife.
Before he married her....also he had a land grant, those in Alberta anyway show date of immigration/arrival to Canada, last residence before arrival and all kinds of other things.
He appears a few times in gov of bc records and at pennies a page for copying I'd order every scrap of it.

It may be a wild goose chase, but could well lead to a clue.

At any rate ships lists are not complete for any port and it would be an overwhelming amount of microfilm rolls anyway.

You can also try his home parish records, often clergy made notations when someone left for US/Canada.
Some parish records are FILLED with facts depends on the clergy in charge. If there was a get together to send him off often there is notations and expenses for such.

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 3:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
forgive me as you say nara, that some america site that am able to access, you said he sued Emanuel Jack same surname of his second wife,where can i get that information from. mmm we have thought that he may have been married before but didnt know who to, certainly no scottish records that i have seen see him marring here, theres no information on him in the local parish have checked that one out, as it goes he seem to have left scotland in rather a hurry for some reson he had too, wonder what that was about.

if its the last thing i do on this tree am going to find out the missing information as i just want to find out how he left scotland and where he went.

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 3:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
National Archives is NARA,

His sons attestation papers
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc006/394599a.gif

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 3:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
I just emailed a news clipping
1857 to Pennsylvania then on to Oregon then to BC (and back to Oregon.

I'm looking up ships lists right now.
Let me know if the clipping came through okay.

Re: William Hinksman

Posted: 24 Dec 2006 4:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
no clipping came through that interesting that about the trip wonderful maybe i shall gewt somewhere with it you can email the clipping to j_hinks@hotmail.co.uk. Am actually going to Victoria in April to this chaps grandsons who i found a few years ago through this research, seems William Hinksman married a native lady called wills or somethng like that or it maybe this jack woman was a native american on her mothers side, thanks for the help, if you need help in scotland please ask me,
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