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Cant add any new hints until I pay Friday but here's his fam on my tree
Richard Chamberlain born between 1610 - 1618. Died April 15, 1673 in Mass. Married Sarah Bugbee in 1650. Looks like they had 8 kids so branches to follow if they are real.
Mary Chamberlain 1649-1715 Elizabeth Chamberlain 1654-unk Joseph Chamberlain 1655-1721 Benjamin Chamberlain 1655-1736 Daniel Chanberlain 1656-unk Ann chamberlain 1662-1673 Rebecca chamberlain 1665-1728
Richards parents were John Chamberlain 1595-1673 and Jane Reyner 1600-1678
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Here's where my line goes from my grandma. You will see where it meets yours.
Marjorie L Chamberlain 1920-2001 B - Troy, PA D - Tampa, FL William P Chamberlain 1896-unk B - Troy, PA D - Troy, PA James A Chamberlain 1872-1926 B - Bentley Creek, PA D - PA William P Chamberlain 1846-1916 B - Ridgebury, PA D - Ridgebury, PA Rinaldo Chamberlain 1820-1894 B - Troy, PA D - Bentley Creek, PA Mansur Chamberlain 1799-unk B - Dudley, MA D - Unk Calvin B Chamberlain 1770-1856 B - Douglas, MA D - Dudley, MA Joseph Chamberlain 1720-1776 B - Oxford, MA D - Douglas, MA Benjamin Chamberlain 1694-1746 B - Sudbury, MA D - Oxford, MA Joseph Chamberlain 1655-1721 B - Roxbury, MA D - Oxford, MA Richard Chamberlain 1610ish-1673 B - England D - Sudbury, MA John Chamberlain 1595-1673 B - England D - Sudbury, MA John de Tankerville 1570-1620 B - France D- England
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Hello Don and Kevin, You were discussing this subject some time ago, so you may have moved on and I am too late, but we may share a family connection, but it's a long way back - to the de Tankervilles. The dates look kind of similar - I have some brothers listed also for each of my grandfathers which your lines may come from, if not directly. I have (with a great deal of help) gone back to 1018, so before the Norman Conquest - that's if they are correct. It's bordering of a bit mythical that far back. Coming closer though they branch off completely, going to America? My lot stayed in southern England, and by the looks of it, went from being Earls and Barons - to farm labourers! What happened - sob! If your interested.
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Wow, I would love to know what you have for info!
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katiandgraham.com/genealogy/ (Chamberlain)
Hello, I am a bit of a novice on passing info on the internet, so not sure if the above is what you need to check out the website that I have found most helpful. Not sure if you have already come across it, but it is run by my newly-discovered and totally-unknown-before 5th cousin who has put together very accurate links and dates. It is quite comprehensive. But here are some dates for you to see if they match anything you have, linking son back to his father etc.
John Chamberlain b1600 d1678 (marr Joan ____ b1604 d1653) Richard de Tankerville (Tancarville) b1570 d 1612 (married Agnes Chessock ) Richard Chamberlain b1535 d1585 Henry Chamberlain b1496 d1596 Richard Chamberlain b abt 1475 d1496 (marr Anne Downes) Sir Richard Chamberlain b abt 1460 d1497 (marr Syblil Fowler) (Sir Richard father at 15!) William Chamberlain b1436 d1471 (marr Joan Lunsford) Richard Chamberlain b1392 d1439 (marr Margaret Knyvet) Richard Chamberlain b1356 d1396 (marr Margaret de Lovaine)
I hope this ties in with your family line, because, if I follow back from the above given last Richard, I discover that they were knights, then when I reach William, b 1160, he was Lord William and was appointed Chamberlain to Henry II. His father Lord Richard b1120 was Chamberlain to probably King Stephen. His father Earl John de Tankerville b1070 may have been Lord Chamberlain to King Henry I. THEN, go back to Gerard (or Gerold) of Normandy, France and he was a descendant of Tancred the Viking. I have gathered a lot of info on this off the internet - once you have a name and some dates the info available is overwhelming. I have been furnished with a large amount of glorious information that takes you back into myth where the line goes directly back to the King of Finland! I take that with a pinch of salt - but as everyone in our house is great fans of the Canadian production of "The Vikings" - I get pretty excited at this sort of stuff! (ps I can try and get this "The Norse Beginnings" website also if you are interested). Hope this is the same as your line. LOUISE
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Thanks, Louise!
With all the Richards and Johns in your list, there has to be a connection. Those names repeat for a few generations once they get to the colonies. I am thinking your Richard (1570) is a brother of my John (1570).
Richard Chamberlain (1618) (in Massachusetts by 1630) John Chamberlain (1595) (married Jane Reyner) came to colonies after Richard and died here John de Tankerville (1570) (married Jane Morteine) (from Normandy)
There seems to be a common idea that the Chamberlain's/de Tankerville's wondered back and forth from Normandy to England to Normandy a few times, which makes sense if they had wealth and holdings in Normandy. I have been told the Morteine family was extremely wealthy in Normandy/France.
Keep sending info, I love it. I have been sharing your stuff with another distant relative (we are related back to the Richard above (1618) and just happen to live in the same city). He has a little better handle on the de Tankerville's than I do. He had a DNA test done, and it showed the VIking heritage. I still have not done a DNA test.
If I can go back in my tree one more generation, I am guessing it aligns with yours. I will work on that.
Thanks again, Louise!
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Louise, I am quite certain my line branches into yours, but I am having difficulty figuring out exactly where. John (1600) is not the John in my line, and Richard (1570) had a brother John (1560), but I do not think my line joins there either. I am thinking maybe Henry (1496) or Richard (1460) might be where they join. The names John and Richard recur endlessly in these branches, so I can see how some have mixed things up accidentally. I will keep looking, but I would love to know what you have older than 1356 for records. And, also the viking stories.
---DON
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Hello Don, Thank you for your reply. Just for now, here is the link to the Viking website that you expressed an interest in and that ties in with this Chamberlain/Tankerville line. I've got a day or two of work ahead of me so I will check out the dates you gave me soon hopefully. There is a few pages in this link - I hope it connects you: http://www.plefka.net/Family/Family82.htmIf you google any of the names that appear in the above history, you will be sure to find heaps of stuff. Also, do check out the Chamberlain website: http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy/Best wishes Louise
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