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De La Chaumette migration story

De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 23 May 2012 4:24PM GMT
Classification: Immigration
Here is a brief snippet of the De La Chaumette story

Daniel and Marie Aucouturier De La Chaumette's son Jean (Baptist) De La Chaumette left France, went to England where he married his 2nd wife, Elizabeth H. Bougeois, daughter of John Bougeois and unknown wife. They relocated to Martinique, French West Indies. They had 4 sons, Antione and John were born in London, England. Samuel and Daniel were born in Martinique, French West Indies. After Marie's death, Antione in charge of the plantation and brought John, Samuel and Daniel to the Virginia colony in search of his brother, Arnoul(Arnell De La Chaumette)Shewmake, only to find he had died almost 20 years. In passing through Westmoreland Co., VA, he found Mark Hardouin, his brother-in-law, a Norman Emigrant, who owned and inn (or tavern) in Stafford Co., VA near Germantown trail crossed Elks Run. It was through Mark Hardin, in 1723, Jean bought some choice bottom land along Elk Run from the biggest landowner in the area, William Allen of Overwharton Parish in the County of Stafford. The deed is recorded in Stafford Co., VA, deed book. He bought 200 acres of land, which was an indication the John Shumate I, (as we will hereafter call him), was more than moderately wealthy. It is believed John 1, died around 1728, just before ar after his son, John II married Judith Bailey. It has been said John I was killed by a blow in the head by a highwayman wielding the large door key of Marc Hardouin's tavern. When the tavern was demolished some years later, the workmen pulled up the treadle of one of the steps, there was Spanish money galore. No will for John I, has been found, which may indicate to us that he had not anticipated his death to be near. However, it is possible that he had made a will, the Stafford Co., Will Books for the years between 1709-1729 are missing.
(Extract from The Shumate Family by Theodor-Friedrich von Stauffenberg)

Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 23 May 2012 7:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Since this is a public forum here I need to keep reminding myself to only speak of things I am perfectly knowledgeable of and make sure not mention suspicions or theories in which I have little evidence.

Which, of course, is always difficult.

I'm finding the I-4 label a little more reassuring at the moment. It is clear that we are "cousins" in some way---possibly 20 to 30 times over. I see many common relationships and families in areas that were populated by 600 to 1000 people at a time. The odds seem incredibly high. Even more than this, it is the combination of surnames. Nickell/Nichols/Nicholson marry a particular kind of Smith, often. King/Morgan/Brown is a VERY common combination. Those families stayed close for about 100 years. Same with Hawkins/Harris.

The two lines I can speak of with complete knowledge are the Stampers and the Bailys. You can purchase this as an e-book. And Ancestry has it, but it is harder to navigate...Scots Banished to the Plantations will give you a clear idea of who the Bailleys were...spelling varies but this is one family that is unquestionably related.

The interesting thing to me is that your lines largely stayed in North Carolina through the 1800s, mine had moved into Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio (and some to Tennessee).

Between 1790 and 1800 all of my family lines had left. This was largely due to skin coloring. The bulk of my 1800s era family are the kinds of people that are often referred to as "Black Dutch"...in the Appalachians they call them "Melungeon." However, these labels are misleading. Genealogy, history, and (increasingly) DNA, show that these two "groups" are more often than not the exact same people.

I'm looking forward to studying this De La Chaumette.



Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 10 Jun 2012 6:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: De La Chaumette, Shoemake, Shoemaker
I'm finding that a lot of Shumake's are believed to come from De La Chaumette. And, if they are the De La Chaumette(s) that they appear to be, it gives some insight to the connections with the Allen family. "Diest" and "Cult of Reason" seem to be of a similar mindset.

Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 10 Jun 2012 1:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Shumate, De La Chaumette
Elaborate on your "similar mindset" statement about deists and Cult of Reason connection to the De La Chaumette.

Are you referring to Pierre Gaspard Chaumette and Robespierre?

My tree does not have a connection to Pierre at the moment, my De La Chaumette/Shumate direct ancestors were in Virginia by the time France was in midst of all that turmoil. If anyone does have proof of those connections I would be very interested in reading that research.

Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 10 Jun 2012 2:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: De La Chaumette Shoemaker
My family tree connects me Ethan Allen. All records indicate that he is a great uncle. The Allens and the many, many Shoemaker variations connect over and over again. These two families stayed close to each other for about 125 years. In my family there was a very tense relationship with religion, specifically Christianity. In my families, religion was the oppressor. They can look religious on paper but they are always starting/joining the branch that "broke away." Primitive Baptists, etc. Ethan Allen was seen as a Diest, a term he didn't care for but---he did fit the definition. He wrote a famous work calling the idea of the Trinity complete hogwash. Deists are those who believe that the natural world, more so the observation of it, holds the answer to G*d---not organized religion. He felt there was a scientific explanation for "miracles." This isn't all that far removed from the Cult of Reason. And, many people forget, we are dealing with people who lived in the Colonies at a time when there were about 250,000 Europeans. I have no proof that these Chaumettes are the same. But I do have volumes of proof that they knew the same people, traveled back and forth between the same countries, were eventually ousted from those countries, and stayed within the same tight circles once they were free to move about the Colonies. As far as I'm concerned, we tend to work backwards. We should assume all these people are related and work to eliminate those who are not. You miss less this way. I'm going to keep at it. As of right now, who came first? The Chamettes or the Schumachers? I have no idea. But it is clear that they are, at the very least, the same clan of people. Chaumette-Allen, Shoemaker-Allen, Schumate-Allen...Shewmaker-Allen...it is endless. I'm unable to not find it curious. I also find the Island Colony immigration curious. This wasn't a place you moved, it was a place you were banished to.

I've never bought the going "German Schumacher" story. What I see are supposed Welsh, English, German, Scotish, and French people, who end up in the Colonies, carry no significant traditions associated with their believed country of origin, and intermarry without missing a beat.

Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 10 Jun 2012 2:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ethan Allen was an extremely interesting figure that has been whitewashed from modern American revisionist history because he was a freethinker. Personally, I think we were nation created from dissents and freethinkers. Thomas Paine is another central figure who has been marginalized in the same fashion.

As for researching, working backwards/forwards/sideways, taking all pieces of information into account (no matter how inconsequential sounding or not) can uncover unique and new connections. It is possible that these De La Chaumettes were connected to the French Revolution/Chaumette Radicals and they fled to England and other locations. Hopefully more information will come forward to credit or discredit that correlation.

Parts of my family that settled in Wilkes, NC are still Primitive Baptists today. Many in that family line were Elders in the Primitive Baptist for a few hundred years. Maybe this is part of the larger narrative...maybe not, hopefully we will able to objectivity connect some of the dots someday.

Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 10 Jun 2012 3:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
My Chambers line was Primitive Baptist, from that Rowan, Person Co NC area.

Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 10 Jun 2012 3:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
This is also the line that accounts for the i-4.

Re: De La Chaumette migration story

Posted: 10 Jun 2012 3:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am with you, definitely some intriguing pieces dealing with similar locations, similar surnames, same time frame, and similar beliefs. My mtDNA, I4, is not from my Shumate/De La Chaumette line. As far as I know no one has tested that line within my immediate family, it would be my maternal grandfather's direct maternal line, not mine. His maternal line is Shumate, Absher(Abshire), Hall, Hammons and May.
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