U.S. Medical Profession - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Dr. N. A. Saylor

vgroome1 — 2013-04-14 11:52:04Z

Thank you so much!

Re: Everett M. Brandt

dcole5711 — 2013-04-14 03:03:57Z

Everett is pretty elusive to the records, I did manage to find him on the marriage index. It also appears that his father, Louis, served in the Civil War. If you are interested in going further, you can email me: dcole57@mac.com

Re: Dr. N. A. Saylor

dcole5711 — 2013-04-14 02:45:02Z

I found his cards from the AMA, they are attached. It says he died in 1944, so you would have to get a copy of his death certificate from the State of PA. I took a quick look through the death index for 1944 and it doesn't appear the the "S" files are in any sort of arrangement. My head hurts from looking at it. If you do find it, you can fill out the paperwork for a copy of his death certificate. You should find the certificate number on the index. Here is the link:

http://www.health.state.pa.us/indices/1944%20Death.htm

Best of luck!

Re: Dr. N. A. Saylor

vgroome1 — 2013-04-14 01:09:09Z

Since I posted this message in 2009, I have found additional information...apparently he did not die before 1900, and his first name was Norman...Here is what I have found:
"Transactions of the Homeopathic Medical Society of the State of Pennsylvania" p. 72
N. A. Saylor is listed as Members in attendence at the meeting in Sept 1899.

Norman A. Saylor, 1940 Diamond Street, Philadelphia; Alumin, Class of 1880, Homeopathic Medical College of Pennsylvania: the Hahnemann medical college and hospital of Philadelphia;
by Thomas Lindsley Bradford (1898)

"Fourth Annual Report of the State Board of Health and Statistics of the Commonwealth of PA, Vol. 4," State Printer, 1889
Norman A. Saylor, registered May 25, 1883, born PA, Residence: 1318 Spring Garden Street, white, Hahnemann Medical College 1880

"Medical and Surgical Directory fo the United States" Polk & Co. 1886
Norman A. Saylor (H) 3118 Spring Garden, 1880, Philadelphia County - population 950,000

Now my goal is to find a death date...He remarried about 1897 (unsure when he divorced Elizabeth Frey) to a Margaret, who died before 1920. I believe he died after 1940 in Philadelphia. Would there be a listing of deceased physicians? Or perhaps Alumni deaths for the Medical College?

Thank you for your willingness to help!

Re: Everett M. Brandt

maureenstephan — 2013-04-14 00:52:45Z

Well, that is very kind of you to offer, but Dr. Everett Brandt is one of the "big mysteries" in my family tree, so I don't want to impose on you! I so much appreciate getting the document you already sent - it helps a lot. So, if you WANT to help me solve some other questions I have about him, that would be fab, but it's a big mess.

Thank you again - you made my week!

Maureen

Re: Is this a PA medical license for 1893?

vgroome1 — 2013-04-14 00:42:18Z

Thank you!

Manic Depression

LynnEnfield — 2013-04-14 00:34:15Z

Great, Great Aunt suffered from Manic Depression in Early 1900's. Her medical report says "Observations Unimproved by B of C." Could some one tell me what a B of C is.

Thank You.

Re: Everett M. Brandt

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 22:36:12Z

Anything else I can help you with?

Re: Mental Illness

4Lillie2look — 2013-04-13 12:32:58Z

Thanks so much for your reply. I have found a little more on the man and think I have the right fellow. He passed was sent some documents and location of burial so I have sort of laid that to rest. Thanks again.

Re: Everett M. Brandt

maureenstephan — 2013-04-13 11:30:27Z

Thank you so much!!!

Re: Mental Illness

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 08:37:13Z

State archives would have the information from the hospital. Also check with the court district where they lived.

Re: Dr. Robert William McCutchan [McCutcheon] Upshur Co. Tx.

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 08:35:50Z

This is the only thing I could find on him. Sorry I couldn't have been more help

Re: Cleveland disease

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 08:12:48Z

Cleveland's Disease is an inflammation/wearing of the greater tendons of the legs.

Re: Dr. Earle E. Bessey b. 1871

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 08:00:59Z

One more

Re: Dr. Earle E. Bessey b. 1871

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 07:56:03Z

American Medical Association, Deceased Physician's Files, 1864-1968

Hope this helps you!

Re: Dr. N. A. Saylor

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 07:48:59Z

Started looking around for you, but I'm going to need some more information.

What did "N.A." stand for? And what else do you have?

Re: Manic Depression

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 07:29:11Z

"bed rest of conditions"

Initial intake of patients with depression for that time period was to isolate; thought being to remove them from the outside stressors. Unfortunately, it usually made it worse, which is why group therapy came into play.

Re: Is this a PA medical license for 1893?

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 07:05:45Z

Sounds to me like he is being awarded some sort of tenure or administrative position. I don't believe there was any actual licensing process back then, just association with AMA (could be wrong, but that's what I know)...

Re: Everett M. Brandt

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 06:59:11Z

I believe this is him.

American Medical Association, Deceased Physician Files, 1864-1968

Re: Samuel H. Owen - Abbeville Dist., SC

Jonathon_Michael — 2013-01-16 02:50:39Z

I think likely a connection. The Samuel Hyde Owen in my tree was the son of a Thomas Effort Owen, who could have been about the same age as the half-brother you describe. Of course, with large families with the same surname, it's hard to know what the connection is - I'll keep it in mind as I research.

Re: Samuel H. Owen - Abbeville Dist., SC

fluterspearman — 2013-01-15 14:11:05Z

My great-grandfather was Henson Hyde Owen, better known as "Dock," and was the son of Dr. S. H Owen.Dock was born on Dec. 15, 1835. Dock wrote a book about his experiences in the Civil War and mentioned that his father was a botanical and mineral doctor who worked with Dr. W. C. Norwood of Abbeville Distict.
He also mentioned that he (Dock) had a half brother, Thomas E. Owen.
Dr. S. H. Owen was my great-great grandfather.
Could there be any connection here?

Re: Cause of Death in 8 year old in 1882

dandj488 — 2012-12-23 13:10:50Z

A common complication of Phlebitis is clot formation - also called Thrombophlebitis. Sometimes, when referring to this type of clot, the two terms were used interchangeably.

The inflammation from Rheumatic fever of the heart has been associated with heart damage and also clot formation within the heart.

Thus, when you "connect the dots," it is possible that your ancestor's cause of death was a blood clot (Phlebitis) secondary to Rheumatic fever.

Cause of Death in 8 year old in 1882

JayneLGE411 — 2012-11-23 19:02:10Z

My female ancestor, Emily Schmieding, died at the age of 8 in 1882 in the city of St. Louis. Cause of death is listed as "phlebitis". I have never heard of a child dying due to this condition. Any ideas? Family lore has blamed rheumatic fever or typhoid fever, but that's just oral history. Could the doctor have falsified the cause of death due to an actual cause that was somewhat shameful?

Re: 1935-1940 Sexually transmitted diseases?

dandj488 — 2012-10-24 13:47:58Z

In men, a discharge is consistent with Gonorrhea - a bacterial infection

Re: Cause of death?

Delayne_Duhaime — 2012-10-06 14:22:04Z

That's what I was thinking too...Thank you
Delayne

Re: Cause of death?

dandj488 — 2012-10-06 14:02:34Z

My understanding is that it could be referring to the effects of a Stroke. Also, I saw some references to Palsy-Paralysis which are defined as uncontrolled movement of voluntary muscles (seizures, tetanus, ????).

1935-1940 Sexually transmitted diseases?

Delayne_Duhaime — 2012-10-06 12:40:03Z

My grandma told me my grandfather got an STD from a woman while he was "messing around." She said he had it before they had their 2nd child born in 1940. My grandma said my grandfather had to wear a rag around his penis because he was dripping some liquid.
What STD could this be?

Cause of death?

Delayne_Duhaime — 2012-09-29 23:54:50Z

I just received my 2nd great grandmothers death certificate from 1906. It lists her cause of death as "Paralysis" I know this could be from neck or spinal injury but I'm thinking in those days it may have meant she had a stroke.

Does anyone know what causes of death would be called "paralysis"?

Re: Henry College - 1840's

jbphillips_2001 — 2012-07-16 04:35:17Z

The following are a list of books that were sold at Dr. Moore's estate sale. Most will not come up in a google search so I may not be spelling them correctly, however, I'm spelling them like they appear on the list. Several are difficult to read and appear to be in latin or some other language. -

Storinyes Works
History of the World
Chemistry, P. Progress
Commentary
L.E. Surgery
Diseases of Children
Incupts
E. Notes
Inuspondence
W.S. Dispensatory
Milton's Works
Anatomy
Anatomy Vol. 2
Materia Medica
Anatomy
Gross Anatomy
Bright's family practice
Willson's History
R. Botham
?C. Engher Feirirs?
Lawrence Ruplirus
Coby's Practice
Coby on Infants
Wood's Practice (2 vols)
Spralts
Wils on Veins
Webster's Dictionary
Bell's Anatomy
C. Surgery, Phylosophy
B. Emanuel, Philosophy
Ebril Practice
Fletcher's Chatachism
H. Disection, N. History (2 vols)
Hooper's Dictionary
E.M. Complaints
Tiry's Surgery (or Fery's Surgery)
Will's Fernals
Sear's Wonders of the World
S. B. Byography
Bible
P. Sunday Book
Pictorial History
Life of Washington
V. Brown's (2 vol)
Scott's Works.

Wood's Practice is currently listed on e-bay and the seller has a scan on the inside showing that it was written by George B. Wood, M.D., who was president of the American Philosophical Society and President of the College of Physicans of Philadelphia.

Hooper's Dictionary is still in print. It was apparently first printed in 1843 by Robert Hooper.

Sear's Wonders of the World was written by Robert Sears. The 2nd edition from 1856 may be viewed on google books.

Henry College - 1840's

jbphillips_2001 — 2012-07-15 22:49:00Z

I'm looking for a Henry College that would have been open in the 1830's-1840s that taught medicine. My ancestor, Dr. James B. Moore, was born in South Carolina in 1820 and died in Tishomingo County, Mississippi in 1855. He had a lot of books that were sold at his estate auction and they sound like college books. I found that one was published in Kentucky and circulated around that area according to google search. (I'll have to find it again to get you the name). Based on this, he may have gone a long ways out of South Carolina for his education. I also think that he was in Alabama at one point since his wife is from there and I can't find a marriage record in Mississippi.

Thanks

Re: archaic medical terms

gonnabeachef1 — 2012-07-02 12:04:56Z

thank you. this is what i figured it was but on the death certificate it has the words misspelled and all run together as one word.

Re: archaic medical terms

dandj488 — 2012-07-01 14:16:09Z

"melenaneonstoreum"

Probably melena neonatorum. Not sure if it is archaic yet.

"melena:" the word used for abnormal black, tarry feces/stool caused by bleeding in the upper GI tract; e.g., bleeding peptic ulcer or upper GI disease.

"Neonatorum": Newborns or young infants.

melena neonatorum: melena that occurs in newborns and young infants. May have more than one cause. Sometimes the infant has internal GI bleeding. Plus, I think there is a condition called "swallowed blood syndrome" in infants. The mother has a bleed, and the blood enters the uterus and is ingested by the unborn infant.

archaic medical terms

gonnabeachef1 — 2012-06-06 23:46:31Z

hello, i recently obtained a copy of a death certificate listing manner of death as melenaneonstoreum. internet search returns so matching results. has anyone ever heard of such a thing and if so what is the modern terminology? thank you.

Everett M. Brandt

maureenstephan — 2012-04-12 05:39:27Z

I am looking for any information on Everett M. Brandt, a physician who practiced in Denver around 1905. He ran a place in Denver called "Forest Retreat" advertised as "a magnificent private home for the reception and treatment of nervous and mental diseases and alcohol and drug addictions" - he supposedly adopted my grandfather, Eugene McIlmoyle, but never told him (my grandfather) that he was adopted. I can track Dr. Brandt through May of 1910 when he traveled by train from Denver to White Rock, British Columbia, Canada, but have nothing after that. ANY info would be so appreciated!!

Re: Doctors Records for 1916 Philadelphia

prolifemike — 2012-03-04 03:40:26Z

Dandj488, thanks very much for your reply! I paid for a copy of a 'verbose' birth certificate containing extra data elements. It had nothing on the father but showed my Dad named only as "Baby Boy O'Donnell". Would the original birth certificate from 1916 even be available for viewing in Pennsylvania and would it add anything I don't already know? I also was able to track down and get a photocopy of the actual written catholic baptismal entry which recorded the fathers name as William Smith (a suspiciously common and possibly fictitious name) but nothing else about him. The search continues with me seeking sources such as WW-I draft lists, Adoption papers, City directories, deeds, Tax rolls, political party lists, Source of payments, boarding house tenant lists, letters to relatives, etc... I live 1,000 miles from Philadelphia so it goes slowly. Even professional geneaologists in Philly have been reluctant to take this brick wall on. Any suggestions or tips would be very welcome!

Re: Doctors Records for 1916 Philadelphia

dandj488 — 2012-03-03 20:32:27Z

I had a similar situation. Father's name was absent from the birth certificate. Specifically, it stated "mother refused to disclose."

Generally, medical records are the property of the physician. The patient has rights to access and make copies, but the originals belong to the physician.

After this physician died, the medical records that you seek could have been given to the physician who took over his practice, or, to another physician if the patient went elsewhere. Or, the patient could have obtained their own records.

Current law in Pennsylvania requires that medical records are kept for 7 years after the time of the last patient visit. Children's records are kept until 1 year after they reach the age of majority or 7 years after their last visit while still a minor child - whichever is longer. The records may be destroyed on inactive patient's after this time period expires.

Since he died in 1918, I would venture to guess that physician's records that you seek have been destroyed; although there might be an outside chance that they (or copies) exist somewhere.

The father's information may exist elsewhere. Did you see the birth certificate yourself to verify that the father's name was omitted? Have you tried church baptismal records etc?

Re: 1870 Census Medical Term, Help

patster1 — 2012-02-18 21:04:47Z

Thanks Champlain9, that diagnosis is the pretty accepted one (tuberculosis). I did find an associate research on the person mentioned that stated he had acquired the measles during the Civil War and had to swim across a river somewhere. Following that, the measles settled in his lungs and he suffered with that problem the remainder of his days. There again both situations involved the lungs and would probably mirrored the same symptoms as tuberculosis.

Pat

Re: Teething

Champlain9 — 2012-02-18 17:30:53Z

In the olden days it was the custom to blame teething for colds, diarrhoea's, or fevers. These conditions are caused by germs and not by teething. However, in some babies it looks as though teething lowers resistance, making it easier for an infection to start at that time.

Regards

Re: 1870 Census Medical Term, Help

Champlain9 — 2012-02-18 17:27:43Z

White plague.

Regards

Re: Doctors Records for 1916 Philadelphia

Champlain9 — 2012-02-18 17:23:02Z

I think you should have typed patients resords?

http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/09...

Re: Prominent Doctor - lack of information

AdrianBrisee — 2011-12-30 09:24:17Z

Lewis Arthur Klein, 2901 16th St., Wash. D.C., graduated 1945 from University of Rochester School of Medicine and Detistry, and 1938 Columbia University College of Physicians & Surgeons. [Born 1900, but you already had that.]

Is this a PA medical license for 1893?

vgroome1 — 2011-12-12 01:11:18Z

I have a document with letterhead: United States of America, Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions. It states that "Dr. Harry Miller Black is hereby appointed an Examining Surgeon for this Bureau at Lancaster, Lancaster Co, PA, to take effect when he shall file the oath of office and enter upon duty." It is signed by Wm Lochner(?), Commissioner of Pensions.
Is this essentially a Pennsylvania medical license enabling Dr. Black to practice in the stated locality?
Thanks for the help!

Doctors Records for 1916 Philadelphia

prolifemike — 2011-04-03 00:59:10Z

Can anyone tell me how to find records from a doctor who practiced in Philadelphia around 1916? Dr Samuel P. Gerhard attended the birth of my father and was listed on the birth certificate.

The reason for searching his records is to discover my dad's biological father. The father's name was not listed on the birth certificate. I'm hoping the doctor might have known identity of the father and had background info on the mother.

Dr Gerhard was on staff at the Medico-Chirurgical College and Hospital of Philadelphia and a member of Philadelphia County Medical Society. Sadly, he died a victim of the Spanish Flu epidemic in 1918.

Archives of the Medico-Chirurgical College now reside at University of Pennsylvania. They say they do not have records from old physicians. Same story from Pennsylvania Medical Society and the College of Physicians of Philadelphia.

Re: Prominent Doctor - lack of information

cemcrawler — 2011-03-13 16:47:45Z

Could you please provide some more information.
You say he met his wife in Rochester New York - what was her name ?
What were there childrens names ?
You say you have his death certificate - where did he die ?
Any other information you may have would be helpful

Re: DESPARATE TO FIND, Great Uncle MD. PHYSICIAN / SURGEON. Please help

halpark — 2011-02-21 19:01:00Z

Practising in Ireland?

Re: DESPARATE TO FIND, Great Uncle MD. PHYSICIAN / SURGEON. Please help

BRaderPyne — 2011-02-21 04:08:14Z

Have you checked the "Directory of Deceased American Physicians"?

Re: DESPARATE TO FIND, Great Uncle MD. PHYSICIAN / SURGEON. Please help

halpark — 2011-02-19 17:56:01Z

If he was in practice after the 1858 Medical Act which created the GMC and demanded the registration of doctors he must appear in the Medical Directory. Places like the Wellcome Library, Royal College of Physicians, will have complete runs. If he is not registered he was not a practising doctor (not legally anyway!). Hope this helps.

Prominent Doctor - lack of information

cynross_1 — 2011-02-07 20:05:19Z

My grandfather was a very prominent physician. Yet, I can't find him on any census, any voter registery, marriage certificate/license, etc. I've only been able to find his death certificate.

Dr. Lewis A Klein, MD (1900- 1986) -> I don't know if he was born in New York or in Hungary & immigrated with his parents. I don't know his parents' names. I don't know where he went to medical school. He did meet his wife in Rochester, NY.

He was the 1st physician to prescribe penicillin in the US. He was one of 3 staff physicians for President Kennedy. There are some other notables, but those are the most signifcant that stick out in my mind.

Please help me find more info on him.

Re: DESPARATE TO FIND, Great Uncle MD. PHYSICIAN / SURGEON. Please help

HeatherGraham41 — 2010-10-09 11:34:45Z

Hi, Nanablue,

Thank you so much for all the information about William Angus, No I haden't got all that, I would still love to know where William Trained as a doctor, physician/surgeon,
but still haven't discovered that

Thanks again for your time and effort.

Heather

Re: DESPARATE TO FIND, Great Uncle MD. PHYSICIAN / SURGEON. Please help

nanablue2007 — 2010-10-09 10:10:06Z

you prob have this by now

Groom's Name: William Angus
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Margaret Hasley
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 08 Jul 1848
Marriage Place: Civil Marriage Records, , Misc, Ireland
Groom's Father's Name: Andrew Angus
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: William Hasley
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70197-9
System Origin: Ireland-VR
Source Film Number: 101300
Reference Number: 2:1TBTXDJ
Collection: Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898

Name: Margaret Jane Angus
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 02 Jan 1867
Birthplace: 0901,DONAGHADEE,DOWN,IRELAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Angus
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Haisley
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70131-1
System Origin: Ireland-ODM
Source Film Number: 101140
Reference Number:
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: George Angus
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 Nov 1864
Birthplace: 0872,DONAGHADEE,DOWN,IRELAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Angus
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Haisely
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70125-1
System Origin: Ireland-ODM
Source Film Number: 101100
Reference Number:
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

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