Palatines in Ireland - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Irish Palatines immigrating to America?

robertspearing — 2012-11-24 01:35:54Z

have any of you tested for your dna? i am very interested to know the haplogroup for palatine descendants

Re: Stark/Mee/Heavenor

skepglen — 2012-11-19 23:58:14Z

There are MEE in the Kilfynn Church Yard in Co. Limerick.
I have a pic. of the stone.
Roland Young

Philip Starke-

IPonting — 2012-07-20 17:21:04Z

I am researching my Wife’s paternal lineage as follows
• Leonard Sparling Starke b.1916 d.1956 Montreal Canada
• Father :William Henry Stark b.1868 Leeds Yorkshire England d.1934 Montreal Quebec
• Grandfather: Philip Charles Stark b. 1825 -1830 Ireland d. 1902 Montreal, Canada Married 1) Mary ? 1849 in Ireland and 2) Eliza Sparling 1867 Leeds Yorkshire England
• 2nd. Great Grandfather: Philip Stark b. Ireland
I'm specifically looking for the lineage of my wife's 2nd. great Grandfather Philp Stark.

Re: O'Connell Family exit from Ireland

duffercat1 — 2012-07-02 23:30:08Z

I see your request was in 1207 but I just saw it now.
I have a Patrick Connel about 25 living with Patrick O'Neill
and his wife and daughter in Alfred Allegany New York in
a for free Inhabitants home that I just found 2 days ago.
Not sure about the free inhabitants bit but imagine its because they immigrated and there were also 3 other men
in this group. This was the 1850 census of New york.
O'Neill's and O'Connells settled in Ops township, Victoria County Ontario after leaving New |York.
These were my husbands great grandparents. I hope you see this message.
Diane O'Neill Lindsay, Ontario Canada

Re: Irish Palatines immigrating to America?

jerrybaughman75 — 2012-05-28 14:42:18Z

We recently found in a census report that our oldest ancester Christian Baughman was born in Ireland, but resided in Bald Eagle Valley, Huntingdon Co., Pa. (now Snyder Twp., Blair Co., Pa.) I think his parents were part of the Palatine group sent to Ireland by the Queen of England. There was a Christopher Baughman immigrated to the same area and naturalized in 1802 from Prussia - probably a relative. The surname could have been Bachmann/Bachman. Have you tried the PALAM.ORG website?
Jerry Baughman

Re: Irish Palatines immigrating to America?

JDJames89 — 2012-04-28 00:33:44Z

Hmm...very interesting. I'm glad to hear of someone else with a similar sort of ancestor. I'll keep an eye out as I check things out for anything that could possible be related to Patschet. Pennsylvania Dutch/Low German made for some very interesting spelling in records.

Re: Cavanaugh's in Northern Ireland

klovctr — 2012-03-11 13:37:21Z

hello, this may be a wild goose chase but you never know. some of my ancestors were named cavanaugh and were from ireland but i don't know where. the name is michael cavanaugh and he was supposed to have arrived in the states in the 1850's. he travelled across the country and finally settled in leavenworth, kansas. he and some of his family also lived in platte county, missouri (just across the state line from kansas. he was a stone mason. he might have been from ballylea, co. wexford, ireland. any information would certainly help. thanks in advance.

Re: Irish Palatines immigrating to America?

michaelechrist — 2012-03-08 18:08:57Z

Depp has Alsatian origin. Daub has Lausatian origin. During the Palatine Exodus, many mistakes in name registration occurred while entering or leaving ports. They may have been mistaken as the same name in Ireland.
I am looking for a surname that had changed through 3 generations in Pennsylvania! Patschet to Patsches to Patches or Patchit.
Arriving in Pennsylvania before 1840 from Ireland, William Patschet spoke a german dialect. I wonder what his last name may have been before 1709, as I have not found any similar surnames on the Irish Palatine lists.

Irish Palatines immigrating to America?

JDJames89 — 2011-10-23 06:14:29Z

I'm not sure if this is an absurd idea, but is there any chance that some of the Irish Palatines who were sent to Ireland in 1709 immigrated to America in later generations? I know some ended up in Canada. I have two surnames in my family tree that appear to be overtly German intermarried in Pennsylvania with original Pennsylvania Dutch Palatine immigrants but originate in Ireland in the late 1700s (1770s). One name, in particular, is Depp. Any chance it could be a skewed version of the Irish Palatine family Daub/Daupe/Doube/Doupe/Dobe/Dope.

kelly family

bungoniaredriver — 2011-08-31 21:55:29Z

i need help with finding herbert auther kelly he lived in nerrandrah nsw australia he was born 26/6/1888 died 1971 wife was emily may petts had 8 children he was a drover of sheep around the area any help would be greatfull thank you.....

Re: Faught (Fought, Focks)

Glaholt — 2011-08-26 01:54:23Z

William H. Faught was actually William Haughton Faught, son of Michael Faught and Mary Hifle (Highfield). His brother was named John Highfield Faught, thus the confusion. Michael and Mary were married in Kilkenny and may have been part of the Palatine community that settled in the Kilkenny/Tipperary area.

Michael and family were in Dublin in the 1850s. He was a shoemaker/bootmaker as were other Faughts. William married Rebecca Ann Walker in 1861 and they had a child, Margaret, in 1862. He left Ireland sometime before 1868 (John died in 1866). Don't know if he deserted his wife and daughter or whether they had died by then but he married my gggrandmother in New York City in 1869 (and deserted her less than 10 years later).

Does anyone have information on this branch of the Faughts?

Cavanaugh's in Northern Ireland

pollyrakestraw — 2011-03-31 14:36:01Z

I am looking for information on Cavanaugh's from northern Ireland. May have migrated south to Dingle, County Kerry. Immgrated to America around 1900-1903 departed from Liverpool and entered through Ellis Island. Settled in Florida. Thank you

Re: Hollinger

Myshorts — 2011-02-25 20:57:54Z

http://www.angelfire.com/my/tray/Palatine.htm

Some of the Palatines settled in the co. Carlow, some in the Queen's
County, some in the county Tipperary, some in the county Wexford,
some in the county Kerry, some in the county Limerick, etc. In Carlow
there is a hamlet named "Palatinetown;" so called, no doubt, from a
settlement of those refugees in that neighbourhood, under the auspices
of Mr. Burton, of Burton Hall, at the commencement of the 18th
century; but, with the exception of those of Keppel, Hanbridge, and a
few others, families of the Palatine race have disappeared from that
neighbourhood. Mr. Bogue, of Wells, of that period, was also a patron
of the Palatines; many of whom settled on his estate in the county
Wexford. In the county Limerick some of them settled at Castle
Oliver, near Kilfinnan, southwest of Knocklong, and others of them in
Ballyorgan, in the barony of Coshlea; but it would appear that the
Palatines were introduced upon the Adare's property, about A.D.
1777-8.
The following list contains names of the Palatine families that settled
in Ireland, those in italics are borne by tenants on the Adare estate:

The paste and copy would not allow me to put commas in so last names run together.

Baker Gruer Ruckee *
Barkman * Heek Switzer *
Barrowbier Hoffman Sparling *
Benner Hifle * Stark *
Bethel Heavener * St. John *
Bowen Glozier (probably St. Ledger
Bowman now Leguer) Straugh
Bovinger (now Lawrence Sleeper
Bobanizer) Lowes Shoemaker
Brethower Ledwick Shier *
Cole Long Sweltzer
Coach Millar * Shoultare *
Corneil * Mich Shunewire
Cronsberry Modler Tesley (now Tesky)

Re: Hollinger

Myshorts — 2011-02-25 20:53:37Z

Mulverhill

NancyMotley — 2010-09-01 21:27:55Z

My great grandfather, Dennis (Denis) Mulverhill came to the US from Ireland when he was about 17, along with his brother. This would have been around 1845. Would love any information anyone has on the Mulverhill's from Ireland about the time. Thanks!!

Sweeney/Welsh (Walsh)

janeames — 2010-06-27 12:00:03Z

I'm looking for any information about Thomas Sweeney born in Ireland (Don't know where) around 1831 and Winifred Welsh his spouse born in 1833, Can anyone help please?

Many thanks, Jan.

Re: Hollinger

japaints2 — 2010-05-30 22:47:17Z

thanks Melanie...I will try that

Re: Hollinger

MelanieDrake67 — 2010-05-30 19:28:24Z

Hi Judy,

You could try the Irish Census online at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ to see if you have any relations there.

Good luck,

Melanie.

Hollinger

japaints2 — 2010-05-29 19:51:53Z

Hi, the name of my father's family is Hollinger. On Canadian census records they are identified as being from Ireland, and are all protestant..as protestants and because of the German sounding names I am beginning to wonder if they were palatine irish but am unable to find the record of this name anywhere associated with palatine irish. Just wondering if anyone has made this connection. Judy

Info on GG Grandparents

shelleys63 — 2010-05-11 12:15:17Z

I am looking for info on my GG grandfather who I believe is a Palatine. I can’t find any info on his parents to confirm this. Charles Piper (Pyper) B 1811 Negagh, Tipperary. D Nov 16, 1883 Stonleigh, ON Canada. He came to Canada in 1845. M 1837 to Margaret Armstrong D 1843, children James 1939-1840, William 1841-1919 (came to Canada with his father and step mother)M 1844 Elizabeth Ardel (Ardell) B 1823 Borrisoleigh, Tipparary. children John 1847-1878, James 1849-1899, Charles 1850- , Rebecca 1853-1876, George ( my g grandfather) 1855-1914, Richard 1857-1940 , Joseph 1859-1928, Francis 1862-1864, Francis #2 1866-1878.
I have been told Charles fathers name was also Charles B 1780, but I can’t confirm. The 1851 Canadian census lists the last name as Pyper, and says they are Church of England. One story we were told was he was protestant and she was catholic and that is why they came to Canada. I can’t find any info on Elizabeth’s family other than her brother Thomas B 1821 also came to Canada with he and Charles.Can anyone help me find the missing link to parents or as to if they were Palatines or not.
Kelly Lee Craig killer@ntl.sympatico.ca

Re: Stark/Mee/Heavenor

lkyspgot57 — 2010-02-13 03:57:50Z

There was Millie and a dughter Rachel Stark from Patton Township which is now Monroeville . I believe the Stark family was from Allegheny County,PA.

William Tracey

lynnceney68 — 2009-10-27 16:59:25Z

My g. grandfather was a private in the Leinster Regiment and travelled around a lot. His daughter Kaitleen was born in Dover in 1901 and his son William in Wicklow in 1903. A further daughter Margaret was born in 1906 in Pretoria, South Africa and twins Patrick and Elizabeth in 1909 in Devonport, Devon.

Any help tracing this man would be greatly appreciated.

I believe he was born in Wicklow and married Catherine Hughes in Rathgar Chape in 1896. They turn up in the 1911 census in Dublin.

I know he moved to Greenock in Scotland with all his family, including 2 other sons James and Andrew. He died in 1943 in Greenock. His parents and Patrick Tracey (aka Treacy) and May (I think!)

Regards
Lynn

Joseph Cowan news article from Ireland-1824

Forloveofthefuture — 2009-10-26 18:47:20Z

I saw someone looking for a Cowan family that immigrated with the Palatines and now I can't find that old post-so hopefully the "poster" will find this.

Galway, Thursday, May 20, 1824
On Friday last, Joseph Henry Cowan, of Eyrecourt, in the County of Galway, was sworn an Attorney of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas in Ireland, and admitted a Member of the Honourable Society of King's Inns.

Jacob Miller newspaper article from Ireland-1823

Forloveofthefuture — 2009-10-26 17:27:37Z

Galway, Monday, September 29, 1823
LIMERICK, SEPT 24- Late on the evening of Friday last, an attempt was made on the land of Courghill, near Ardagh, in this county to turn a rick of turf, the property of Jacob Miller (a Palatine) by setting it on fire in four places; fortunately, an acquaintance of his, who was returning home, perceived the fire and extinguished it.

Re: Palatines, County Tipperary, Ireland:

bNelson30 — 2009-08-20 11:51:22Z

Am I the only dummy? What is an Irish Palatine? I have never heard that word in my life, and I am 1/2 Irish, my moms parents were both born in Ireland .

Thank you

Barbara

McNertney

Willmax311 — 2009-07-14 23:58:08Z

Info on Michael McNertney b.1812, County Clare Ireland, and wife, Bridget Nester. Both died USA.
Thanks,
Bill Meacham

Nolans...

dnolan66 — 2009-06-25 17:36:44Z

I have been working on this for quite some time... We know we are right this far, now we are trying to hook up the first ones to venture into America (Edward & Ellen, married in the U.S.), to those related in Ireland... We hooked up Ellen (thanks Kate!), now we just need Edward...

Help!

Irish Father of William Graham (b.1867) born in Ireland

kgraham22 — 2009-06-19 23:31:29Z

I'm looking for the father of William Graham (b.1867 in PA), who was born in Ireland. I assume he immigrated to PA at some point, since William's mother was born in PA. William married Maria Henry, and I have all the descendants from there on. In the 1920's, the family lived in Hazle, Luzerne, PA.

Many thanks!

William & Mary Henry circa May 1860

bbshaw1 — 2009-02-20 00:35:27Z

Arrived in NY on May 11, 1860 on the ship Victory.
Left from Liverpool, England and arrived at Castle Garden, NY. They brought 3 children with them. Robert, John, & Jane. Went to Pennsylvania to live and work. Any previous information will be appreciated.

Foley & Kirevin

cjordan875 — 2008-08-10 16:32:04Z

I am trying to locate records on Patrick Foley & Katharine Kirevin that immigrated to USA in the 1800. Their daughter Cecilia Lorretta was born in Kansas in 1876 so I am estimating they came in late 1860's to 1875. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Re: George Teskey

Teskey184 — 2008-08-07 09:53:36Z

Hi Melanie,

I would very much like the photo of George and Jerucia. I will get copies to two known descendants and also hopefully put it on the www.Teskey.org website.

You can send it to me at:
Ken McDonald
2 Greenfields
Stansted Mountfitchet
Essex CM24 8AH
England

or if you would prefer to send it to a US address I can tell you one.

Many thanks for your thoughtfulness.

Ken McDonald
Teskey@btinternet.com

George Teskey

MelanieDrake67 — 2008-08-06 21:49:15Z

I came across an old photograph, in great nick, of George Teskey & his wife while searching some old Baker photos from my family. The date on the back of the photo is Oct. 20 1906. The photo was taken in Iowa, USA.

If anyone would like it or a copy of it, please let me know. I am sure someone from the Teskey family would love it!

Regards,

Melanie.

Re: George McElroy and Mary Jane Bell

susankennedy1951 — 2008-06-04 20:37:58Z

Hi Lynne,
Sure I'd love to share information. My email is stkennedy@rogers.com

Re: George McElroy and Mary Jane Bell

dragonfly4184 — 2008-06-02 01:22:13Z

Susan,
My name is Lynne Anderson and we have communicated before with regards to George McElroy. I since have found some new info but have lost your email. I was wondering if you would like to share info again?

My ancestors came over in a box...

bms2000 — 2008-05-23 16:44:18Z

...or something.

I am seeking the immigration route for my Great Grandfather, Daniel Banks, born ~1880 in County Donegal. He immigrated ~1894 (according to census records) but I cannot find him anywhere in Passenger lists and such. His siblings Mary, Patrick, Bridget, Margaret, Phillip, Ellen, and Thomas all came to the US as well (settled in Chicago). They did not apparently come at the same time, but again - can't find any of them. Where are the most likely ports that I should be concentrating on? I am 99.99% sure they did not come through Ellis Island/New York.
Thanks

Crealy

loopi73 — 2008-03-02 09:15:56Z

Searching for info on life before prison on Nicholas Crealy.

Transported: 1849 on the 'Blenheim' aged 30, sentenced 15th Jan 1847 for 7 years for stealing a cow. Served 2 years before being transported.

Note: Nicholas Crealy was married before his trial, his wife died a few days after he was tried ??, they had a son Thomas who later immigrated to Tasmania.

BIOGRAPHY: Nicholas was free by June 1854 and applied for a Bounty ticket for his son Thomas in 1856.
He was tried again for stealing 30 bushels of wheat valued at 15pd and sentenced for 4years on the 28 June 1860 which he spent at Port Arthur. He was released 10th September 1863.

Any help will be greatly apprecited

Can't Find immigration passage ship

Hampton11946 — 2008-02-15 15:11:29Z

Anyone give me further information on how to find my grandfather's ship he took to America (New York). He lived in Limerick, Ireland and lived here in New York. The census I found on him states he immigrated in 1894, It does not state a port, but I checked all ports. His name was Patrick Joespeh Coleman, dob 1877. Thank you for any help

Mayberry

tnvjeff1 — 2008-02-02 02:23:17Z

I am trying to find out more information about Frederick Mayberry. This family is said to have been German and to have come to NJ sometime before 1750. Curiously they ended up in Bedford County Virginia where Frderick and his so Henry signed a petition in a Presbyterian church. Many of the other signers of the petition appear to be Irish or Scot or both judging by their surnames (Kennedy, Campbell, Armstrong, Dooley)
My theory is that this Mayberry family might well be part of the Palatine group settled in Ireland who came to America with other peopel who lived around them.
Is anyone of aware of a Palatine German family named something that would translate to Mayberry?

Valerie Reese

Re: St. John/Sohn/Son

DanFetters44 — 2008-01-03 22:45:11Z

Genealogist Henry Jones has at least 3 books on Palatine families. They mention the families in Ireland on these lists and they do include St John. He puts forward that Son and Sohn are likely pre names of St John. Elias for one, along with his brother arriving in the early 1700s in Ireland. Because of their livelihood (grapevine and wine making) they were likely Hugonauts who had left France for Germany before they became Palatine emmigrants.

Paltine families of Ireland were from the German Rhine region. Early in the 1700's they immigrated to Ireland and settled for a time. Many headed to America and Canada after that, probably other places as well.
Lord Southwell settled a bunch in Rathkeale in County Limerick, Ireland. Another estate was the Adare or Adair, though I am not sure which county this was.
Here's a list of the names that were included in the Irish Name Book and the County Limerick Name book for Palatines. I am sure these are not all there is.
Dan

1700s Palatine families in Ireland
Altimes
Alton
Baker
Barkman
Barkman
Barraban
Barrowbier
Benner
Benner
Bethel
Bickerin
Bonar
Bonus
Bovinger
Bobanizer
Bowen
Bower
Bowman
Bredhour
Brethower
Brough
Cave
Coach
Cole
Cooke
Corneil
Cripps
Cronsberry
Delmage
Delmege
Dettler
Dobe
Dolmage
Doube
Doupe
Dulmage
Embury
Everett
Figgle
Filme
Fitzelle
Folker
Gilliard
Glozier
Grouse
Gruer
Grunse
Guier
Hartwick
Heavener
Heck
Heek
Hibler
Hifle
Hoffman
Hoopf
Hoost
Latchford
Lawrence
Ledwick
Legear
Ligier
Lodwig
Long
Lowe
Lower
Lowes
Ludwig
Mich
Millar
Miller
Modlar
Modler
Neazor
Niezer
Piper
Poff
Pyper
Reynard
Rhineheart
Richardt
Rodenbecke
Rodenbucher
Rose
Ruckee
Ruttle
Rynard
Ryner
Schmidt
Shallas
Sheaffer
Shearman
Shier
Shimmell
Shire
Shoemaker
Shoneweiss
Shouldice
Shoultare
Shunewire
Siebert
Singer
Sleeper
Smeltzer
Smyth
Southwell
Sparling
St. John
St. Ledger
Stark
Stark
Steepe
Steevell
Stork
Straugh
Stroud
Switzer
Tesley
Tesky
Tettler
Ursburlbaugh
Williams
Young
Ziegler

I am of Philip and Ann Dolmage St John's son George's line.

Dan Fetters

Re: St. John/Sohn/Son

lindahawk61 — 2008-01-02 13:46:13Z

I am a Kansas descendant of Philip St. John and Ann Dolmage.

I did not know that they were Palantines. Could you give me

some suggestions on where to find more information?

Thanks!

Linda

GRAHAM or HOUGHTALIN families migrating with Palatines from Ireland

jgraham67 — 2007-09-05 03:22:00Z

I have hit a brick wall with my Graham and Houghtalin ancestors. I have evidence leading me to suspect a connection to Palatines from Ireland--in particular, the Embury family who traveled to NY from Limerick in 1760 and later settled in Fredericksburg, Ontario.

My earliest confirmed Graham ancestor is James Sweet Graham b. abt 1824, believed to be the son of William Henry Graham and Pattey Sweet. Have been unable to find any trace of William Henry or Pattey's origins.

My earliest confirmed Houghtalin ancestor is William Houghtalin who married Mary Davy in 1818 in Fredericksburg. I also have been unable to trace William Houghtalin's origins.

Would appreciate any information/assistance.

Sincerely,
Jeannie Graham

O'Connell Family exit from Ireland

judithgraham428 — 2007-04-14 17:22:14Z

This is my first search attempt. I am trying to look for the right O'Connell family member who exited Ireland to Canada. The link up I need would be to Patrick O'Connell, born in 1857, son of a possible Michael and Mary O'Connell. I would appreciate ANY help.
Thanks,
JGraham

Kiely/mcdonaald

8croxley — 2007-01-24 13:16:01Z

looking for information on my fathers family - my dad Owen Anthony Kiely left Clonmel/Tippereray Eire between 1940 and 1955, mother Margaret nee Mcdonald can anyone help with info pre 1940? Margaret was married to Patrick James Kiely both died young and father died 2002

Re: Emigrated WITH Irish-Palatines?

tareed118 — 2007-01-20 23:25:52Z

I am trying to trace a Robert Reed b Ireland, but have a question who are the Irish-Palatines?

reed

tareed118 — 2007-01-20 22:48:34Z

looking for ROBERT REED SR. b.1730 Donegal Northern Ireland married Mary Pomeroy.

Re: St. John/Sohn/Son

2006-09-16 20:48:12Z

My husband is descended from Philip St. John and I have a lot of their history.

Re: George McElroy and Mary Jane Bell

2006-08-20 20:25:10Z

Howdy, my aunt Hazel Mitchell married Joe McElroy. They farmed in the Heward Saskatchewan area, and then moved to Stoughton Saskatchewan. I do have some additional family information.

Brent Mitchell

Re: Philip Embury, Ballingarrane, Co. Limerick, m. Margaret Switzer 1758, em to NY

2006-06-01 17:13:50Z

Yes, I've seen the website.

Have also been to Rathkeale several times.

Regards.

Eilís O'Hara
Ireland

Re: Shire/Sheir Family in Limerick, Ireland 1850s

rosemaryryden — 2006-05-14 09:24:10Z

I have now received new information regarding the first Robert SHIER mentioned (my 2xgreat grandfather). Apparently he died on 28th July 1870 and was buried on 1st August. does this help anyone identify further information about him for me, please.

Re: Catherine McElroy/Thomas Elya

2006-04-25 22:06:09Z

Dear Susan,
I found a message from 27 sept 2003. In the message wasnamed a person Frankena Elya is this correct. Frankena is an Frisian surname in the north of the Netherlands.
Greetings Albert Frankema