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Barque Irvine

SharonSusanka — 2013-05-23 02:30:24Z

Looking for any info on the barque Irvine. what I need is a drawing or a painting of it for my family booklet Im putting together. I tried to find out what country it was built in but had no luck. My great grandfather landed in New Brunswick in 1861 on the Irvine. Any help would be great.

Re: Emigrant Ship "Union", 1866

KlausWa — 2013-05-20 17:26:41Z

Hi Chris
I found that newspapers by chance, while searching for emmigration information of one of my wifes far cousins.She left germany in 1890,to live in USA. I remebered the lot of information in this newspapers, about arriving an departuring ships from europe harbours, and when I saw your post,I took a second look in it. Today I found another ship named Union, may be a sailing ship,because this ship is mentioned just as a ship, not as a "D"-Ship (Dampfschiff)and because this ship is mentioned under Schiffs-Nachrichten,Headline "Gesegelte und angekommene Schiffe", sailed and arrived ships. You will find this info in the newspaper from June 14., 1866, 20.Jahrgang.Number 24,Page 97, bottom left.

June 11.(?) Union (Captain Schuette),from Bremerhaven nach New York. (not from Liverpool).
More than one "Union" during that time?
Again I try to attach the page
Let me know, if you had success
Klaus

Re: Emigrant Ship "Union", 1866

cwitze — 2013-05-20 15:57:13Z

Klaus,

I need to do some more looking on that link, but these are my first reactions. How'd you ever find that 10 May sailing of the Union? Well done! But since it's a steamer, it should have reached New York by maybe 24 May (and I can't find any record of that). Maybe it went back to L'pool, and on 20 June, it was on another trip to NY. A Union, from the NDL line, did arrive in NY on 29 Sept, on maybe still another trip. And who's ship was it? Norddeutcher Lloyd, or someone else? But that'll keep me busy for a week or two, will let you know.

And many thanks...bis spaeter, Chris

Re: Emigrant Ship "Union", 1866

KlausWa — 2013-05-19 20:02:45Z

Forgot the copy. Here it should be

Re: Emigrant Ship "Union", 1866

KlausWa — 2013-05-19 20:00:42Z

Cris
I found this information in the Allgemeine Auswanderer Zeitung,20.Jahrgang (1866),Inhaltsverzeichnis Mai,Inhaltsverzeichnis Nr.22,Seite 86.
Sorry, but it seams to be a steamboat (Postdampfschiff)
I made a mistake by writing DD. Union. DD stands for the two ships,the D(Dampfschiff)Union and the D(Dampfschiff) La Plata. leaving Liverpool on May 15.,1866

I made a copy an try to attach it.
There is no manifest in that newspaper.
Good Luck
Klaus

http://zs.thulb.uni-jena.de/receive/jportal_jpjournal_000000...

Re: Emigrant Ship "Union", 1866

cwitze — 2013-05-19 19:05:08Z

Klaus,
Brilliant! That may be the right ship, especially if it is a sailing vessel (not steamship). Where did you find this listing? And if there is a manifest, perhaps my great grandfather is on it. This is the best lead I have had in many years.
Danke. Danke.
Chris

Re: Emigrant Ship "Union", 1866

KlausWa — 2013-05-19 17:25:56Z

The DD."Union left Liverpool on May 15.,1866 to New York.Is that not in the timeframe you are looking for?
Klaus

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

andyvh1959 — 2013-05-19 05:17:34Z

Exciting! We were both on the Waterman for the same voyage. Where has life landed you? Andy.

Re:Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

joannerivard11 — 2013-05-19 05:14:14Z

Glad you received it. We lived in Grand Rapids Michigan till 1966
Then moved to Calgary AB Canada.
I still have relatives in Grand Rapids.

Its fun to go back and revisit old memories. Hope your Mom enjoys
All the best to you and yours

Alway,
JoAnne Rivard

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

andyvh1959 — 2013-05-19 05:05:47Z

Thank you so much for faxing me the passenger list. So exciting to see my name, Andreas, on page 6 with my sister, mom and dad. I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin. But I grew up in nearby Appleton where my sister, brother and mother live. My father passed away in August 2002. Tot ziens!

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

andyvh1959 — 2013-05-19 03:29:42Z

Thank you. That would be fantastic! My fax number is the same as my office number, 920-490-3098. Just let it ring and the dax machine will take the call. Thanks so much. Andy Van Herwynen

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

joannerivard11 — 2013-05-19 02:38:28Z

I have the original booklet passengers list of the s.s. Waterman Monday may 25, 1959 from Rotterdam to New York

If anyone is interested.

jorivard@shaw.ca

Maria J. Lausberg.

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

joannerivard11 — 2013-05-19 02:03:17Z

I see your name on the list here, Petrus, must be your Dad's name. My Dad is (was) Petrus Lausberg. Your sister
Dorothea, and you must be Andreas ;-)
Where are you now?

Marij

Email me at jorivard@shaw.ca

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

joannerivard11 — 2013-05-19 01:41:55Z

Hi

I have the booklet of the ship intact, I would happily email a copy for your Mom, if you want? My Mom is also still alive and is 80 years old.
We live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada now.

Im sorry, I mean fax you a copy. Do you have a fax machine?

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

andyvh1959 — 2013-05-19 00:21:14Z

I was very likely on that voyage of the Waterman. My folks and I landed in Hoboken NJ on June 2, 1959. We left Holland in late May of 59 yeaded to the US. My mother is still living, now 85, and she would love to see that manifest. Thanks. Andy Van Herwynen.

Voyage of the Oscar II and Grosser Kurfuerst 1903

twiga820 — 2013-05-19 00:19:30Z

My great-grandparents (Ane and Peter J. Rodholm) immigrated to the U.S. from Denmark with their youngest child on the Oscar II which broke down ending up in Ponto Delgado, Azores and completed the voyage to Ellis Island on the Grosser Kurfuerst arriving 21 March 1903. The child, my great Aunt Anna Rodholm Clapp talked about the trials of this voyage including the throwing off of extra weight, e.g., a piano. For her it was a miserable but memorable voyage.

Re: SS Ulstermore: Launched 1884

ph833 — 2013-05-18 14:51:17Z

Hi
I have just found a painting of S.S.Ulstermore from my wifes grandmothers house 9 inchs by 12 inchs in size.If you would like me to Email a photo of it to you please let me know by Email and I will forward it on to you.My Email is phil@shauno.co.uk
Regards,
Phil.

Emigrant Ship "Union", 1866

cwitze — 2013-05-15 17:04:33Z

FamilySearch.org, as well as some UK sites, show my ancestor Adolf Witze died on-board the "Union" on 20 June 1866. Adolf's plan was to travel Hamburg>Hull>Liverpool>New York...he left Hamburg on 1 May, 1866 (Hamburg Passenger List) on the Lincoln (to get to Hull, then train to L'pool). I presume the Union was L'Pool>NY, but can find no such record of any ship of that name making that trip in that time frame (there was one in late Sept, but that's not it). In fact, I can't find any Union (on "theshipslist", for ex) making even a Europe>North America trip in that time frame (in case his plans changed). I even searched on "union" just being part of the name somewhere...no luck. Any ideas what to try next? I am trying to determine the Union's departure and arrival's ports and dates. Thnx

Note: Adolf was traveling with his brother Jurgen. Jurgen is also on the 1 May Hamburg passenger list, but I have never found a record of where and when he entered the USA...but he did make it to Troy,NY, by October.

Re: Ship Sophia hohenberg / Sofia - Picutre

matiaspavicich — 2013-05-15 14:30:39Z

Thanks again for the help. I searched for a long time an image.

Dou know where I can find a picture of the ship Orione ?
If I'm right, the company owns La veloce.
My ancestor arrived in 1902 to Buenos Aires.

Thanks !!!

Re: Ship Sophia hohenberg / Sofia - Picutre

JohnBark85 — 2013-05-15 04:51:20Z

And here:
http://www.naviearmatori.net/ita/foto-26965-4.html
http://www.passagetoellis.gr/Boat.aspx?bid=23

Re: Ship Sophia hohenberg / Sofia - Picutre

matiaspavicich — 2013-05-15 01:05:28Z

Thank you for your help !!!

Re: Ship Sophia hohenberg / Sofia - Picutre

JohnBark85 — 2013-05-14 21:53:44Z

I find a picture of SS "Sophia", Cosulich Line, dated 1924 here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/frudebaker/8499370546/
Poor quality picture and some info in Italian here:
http://www.agenziabozzo.it/vecchie_navi/B-Vapore/Navi_1850-1...

Re: Passenger list Migrant ship SS Waterman

Theo250 — 2013-05-14 12:31:58Z

could someone please tell me if they have a passanger list for the ss waterman left Rotterdam 11/12/59. Turns out my father and my wifes father where on that ship. Turns out they where born in the same hosiptal 3 weeks apart to

Re: Born on Board ship

dxeumc — 2013-05-12 01:18:05Z

Glad to see your post on here. My GGGrandfather listed "Atlantic Ocean" as place of birth on the 1870 census, but Yorkshire, England, on all the others I've uncovered. I think this might be why I'm hitting such a brick wall.

Re: Passenger list Barque Wandrahm 1867

snowey561 — 2013-05-10 01:13:56Z

Denise I will email you shortly, but for others reading this thread I have no known connection to the Feder family(that I know of yet) other than willingness to help others find info.
Regards Graham

Re: Passenger list Barque Wandrahm 1867

fordtjde — 2013-05-09 22:33:53Z

If you send me an email to fordtjde@bigpond.com I would be interested to see what you have and who you are. I can give you the info that I have as my Mum Doreen Jackson(NeeFeder)
Mum knew her Uncles and Wilhelm and Wilhelmine. Unfortunately Mum passed away a March 2012. Also my phone number is 0419036272
Regards
Denise

Re: Passenger list Barque Wandrahm 1867

snowey561 — 2013-05-09 11:34:45Z

Hi, from your message I gather you would like to know who the other two commentors are! snowey561 is myself, and Lynette198 is a private member tree so I cannot give out her info.
Yes there seems to be a large gap in ages of Fredeirick and Marie, and can possible be explained by the fact that quite a few ages were guessed by the ships Booking office, but it also was not uncommon for the woman to take a younger man.
A lot of the Info can be gained from the previous posts and I can forward you a copy of any Information I have sent the other two, where shall I send it?
Were Wilhelm and Wilhelmina living at Ambleside,SA in 1933?Did Wilhelm pass away in Adelaide on 28 Dec 1933?
Do you need any further help with this line of your family?

Re: Passenger list Barque Wandrahm 1867

fordtjde — 2013-05-09 10:26:05Z

I have just come across this thread. My gradfather was Albert Feder son of Wilhelm and Wilhelmine. I know you Len but who are the other two. Can I have the info on the booklet as well please Graham. My Mm said that Wilheme and family did go to Two Wells or Pt Gawler area. Then she knows that he went to Barton Tce Nth Adelaide. Fredriech his father when they came out here with a Marie, she seems to me that there was a large age gap between Fredeirich and Marie so I wondered if they were married, but related as it seems as though she didn't go back to Germany, but I don't know what happened to her

Re: Ships manifest on the Cretic 1905

jpinchon71 — 2013-05-08 04:04:29Z

hello I don't know if you will ever get this or not but,this is for the person who posted about GAYS/CLERICO, I am Rosa Clerico's great granddaughter!!!! Her daughter Catherine Gays, married Frank Pinchon and they are my grandparents. I don't know much about Catherine's side of the family, it would be nice to talk to you!!!! jpinchon71@gmail.com

Unusual Abbreviation for Italian Immigrants

jdbinmd — 2013-05-07 12:02:06Z

I've run across an unusual marking in the height columns on a particular ship manifest. I've attached two pages of the manifest of the Hamburg which arrived in NY on 24 May 1911. The height column seems to have a script 'p' in place of either the feet or inches numbers. On one of the pages nearly the entire column of heights is marked this way while on the other only a few heights have the marking. It doesn't seem to be used as a normal ditto mark. I believe the ship is German and the passengers mostly Italian (including my wife's great grandfather). Any idea what the abbreviation/marking stands for?

Dan B in MD

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

stevenfagin — 2013-05-03 08:06:02Z

Dear Joel,

Thank you for your response. The microfilm for this ship manifest was created in 1944 -- which explains why neither of us can see any cerificate of arrival markings on it after the early 1940s. I don't know whether this means that in producing later certificates of arrival, they just looked at the microfilm for verification, or if they still marked up the original manifest.

Thank you for the excellent suggestion that I contact Marian Smith. I will do so.

Regards,
Steve

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

stevenfagin — 2013-05-03 08:01:00Z

Dear LostQuays,

Thank you for your response. The only other naturalization record I have for my great grandmother is a copy of her petition for naturalization, which I received from NARA, together with the certificate of arrival. The arrival info on the petition matches perfectly with the arrival info on the certificate -- with the added detail on the petition that she embarked on the ship in Hamburg.

I have taken one further step. I just ordered from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services a copy of my great grandmother's consolidated "C-File," which should include additional naturalization documents, like a declaration of intention to naturalize (if she filed one).

Regards,
Steve

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

JoelWeintraub — 2013-05-02 21:35:38Z

I've also been following this thread.

Note the request went out from the court in 1951. The certificate of arrival number is written on the manifest.... next to the immigrants name..... at least on this manifest through the early 1940s.

So maybe there was a different procedure after that.... or that the manifests were filmed in the 1940s and any subsequent notations on those sheets obviously aren't going to be seen on these pages. I looked through the manifest looking for the certificate number (not any names) and saw the apparent cutoff for the sheet notations.

You might want to send an email to Marian Smith, the Historian at the US Immigration and Naturalization Service who is an expert on these types of records, and if you do and she replies, repeat the information here.

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

LostQuays — 2013-05-02 17:27:32Z

Have been following this thread with great interest..

Steven, I don't think you are misunderstanding anything. Just mislead.

I have said it so many times that Naturalization documents can lead you on a wild goose chase.

But as soon as I see a certificate of arrival I tend to believe what is actually written on there... most of the time.

A researcher once told me that "they" use a book which has a list of arrivals (dates) and a list of ships which they use to get their information to fill out the certificate without actually looking for the passenger list. But not in all cases..

I've seen it myself with other passengers though.. a Certificate of Arrival which had the wrong information.. and always had wondered how could this be?? The Certificate of Arrival looks and sounds like a very accurate document.. but it's not..

My question to you now.. does the Certificate of Arrival information match the information that is on the Naturalization documents? Is there anything different at all?

Re: ship manifest - help please - no penmanship awards here

threent — 2013-04-30 21:33:33Z

I believe $$ is two dollars and the name is Aniela.
11/12 means 11 months old.
Children would sail with ages younger than they actually were to save money. Fares were lower. Maybe 1 year and 10 year were break points.

Person was in US from 1904 to 1909

Re: Carson port of entry 1818

johnandjan70 — 2013-04-30 16:34:47Z

Hi Kim, Thanks for your reply. You're definitely related to our Carson family. Your ggg gp could have been born in Ireland, on the boat, or in America. All the parental generation were born in Antrim County, Ireland. The births of their children confirm 1818 as their travel-to-America date. Lots of brothers and a sister: Andrew/Margaret, David, James, Jane, John/Ann (your 4g gps), Matthew/Jane, Robert, Smith/Elizabeth living mostly in North Carolina, James in Virginia. Three of them later moved to Missouri (David, John, Smith). David came to Oregon as did at least one of his nephews (Andrew Jackson Carson). I have more information about American marriages, children, deaths if you're interested. Jan

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

stevenfagin — 2013-04-29 20:07:49Z

Dear Thomas,

You have again done a good job locating records of my family. Urian (born Urach) Feigin was my great grandfather Morris's younger brother. I've essentially located all the relevant census records for my family (which wasn't so easy to do given lots of surname misspellings.) Urian's wife Lilian was Nathan Levitas's sister. It's possible that Froma Liba Levitt is a relative of theirs (Levitt is close to Levitas), but I know she's not another sibling.

I was aware of the Liebe Levit arrival record from June 22. Definitely not my great grandmother. This Liebe Levit is from the wrong place (Kiev, not Minsk), but more importantly, the Immigration and Naturalization Service made a notation on the manifest which associates this Liebe Levit with another person's naturalization petition and certificate of arrival -- not that of my great grandmother.

Again -- what I'm really seeking to understand is how the Immigration and Naturalization Service appears to have produced a certificate of arrival for my great grandmother that is completely mistaken. Unless I'm misunderstanding something.

Steve

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

lohnsteuerhamburg — 2013-04-29 06:43:28Z

Hi Steve,

ok let´s forget about Libau.
In 1920 census there is no entry abt the year or duration of marriage, unfortunately.
In 1930, there is age at first marriage 27 for Morris and 23 for Fanny. So it is not quite clear if the marriage took place in 1909 or 1910 ( if one considers data as correct).

The only Liebe ( but forename here ) Levit I found arrived on June 22, 1909 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II and was too young ( 18). No Frome, Frame with matching surname at all.

In 1930 there is a Urian?? Tergin? ( also born in Minsk) listed directly below the Morris Fergan family with a br i l Nathan Levit(s). Maybe this a hint. But I just noticed that Nathan and his sister Lillian were born in NY. So it should be nothing but coincidence.

Kind regards,

Thomas

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

stevenfagin — 2013-04-28 15:34:03Z

Dear Thomas,

Thank you for your response. You did correctly identify the arrival record of my great-grandfather, Morris "Mordche" Feigin. (It remains unclear to me why on the manifest he declared himself "single" and made no mention he was joining a wife in the U.S.)

"Fruma Libe" -- which is how it's usually spelled -- was a woman's name among eastern European Jews, if a quite uncommon one. If you google the name, you'll find a number of examples.

I've successfully identified the arrival records of all my relatives, except this great-grandmother. I'm attaching her certificate of arrival from her naturalization petition, for use by you and other researchers. My presumption is that she provided her arrival name -- "Froma Liba Levitt" -- to the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which was supposed to produce the certificate after checking the ship's manifest (or a microfilm copy of it) and confirming that someone with that name arrived on the given ship on the given day.

By the way, I also can't find "Froma Liba Levitt" -- or any name resembling it -- on the ship's departure manifest from Hamburg, where my great-grandmother supposedly boarded the ship.

So once again, can someone explain what's going on here?

Steve

Re: immigration

lohnsteuerhamburg — 2013-04-28 15:09:37Z

Hi,

this information on William ( Wilhelm) Zeyen can be found in the naturalization record. I didn´t find him at ancestry nor castlegarden. Maybe the list was not available.

Regards,

Thomas

Re: has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

lohnsteuerhamburg — 2013-04-28 14:31:38Z

Hi

I think there are some errors.The words on the declaration are somewhat too extraordinary to be a name. I presume frome liba levitt has sth to do with departure in Libau, Latvia. But this is just a guess. Maybe the 1952 record has nothing to do with your Fanny ( see following paragraph).

Do you know the ship´s name your great grandfather arrived on? I have a Mordche Feigin, 26, carpenter from Minsk, aboard the Lapland ( arrival June 1910), but he stated to be single. Destination: brother C Feigin in New Britain, Conn. Arrival data are equal to those stated in the naturalization record from 1928.

Kind regards,

Thomas

Re: immigration

JoelWeintraub — 2013-04-27 17:18:46Z

Can you show your document showing him leaving Liverpool in 1898?

The Campania arrived in NY on June 11th, 1898 sailing from Queenstown and Liverpool.

immigration

pickettlib — 2013-04-27 15:28:52Z

My g-grandfather William Zeyen came to US in June 1898 on the Campania. I found him leaving Liverpool, but can not find his arrival at Ellis Island. Can anyone help?

Re: Abbreviations on ship passenger list UK (port?) to Australia

RobertJerin — 2013-04-27 11:10:21Z

Aha. Sorry I can not help. You may want to be a bit more specific as to name, date and Ports of Depature and Ports of Arrival.

Robert Jerin

Re: Abbreviations on ship passenger list

1_factor — 2013-04-27 04:34:08Z

Thank you for your interest.

Re : the departure - I was referring to the passenger possibly departing mid voyage.

The passengers were Charles Willcox and Elizabeth Willcox nee Ashton, 1st marriage Moore.

Charles Willcox is noted on UK Outward passengers and Australia Unassisted immigrant list. Elizabeth Willcox is recorded on UK Outward passengers but not listed on the Australia Unassisted immigrant list.

Some passengers have the DRLeP next to their names and some have been crossed off. I was wondering if this meant that these passengers had departed the ship during the voyage.

I am uncertain of the protocol with ship passenger records and my goggle research did not provide any answers so thought an ancestry member may have the answer.

Re: Abbreviations on ship passenger list

RobertJerin — 2013-04-27 03:09:44Z

Can you let us know the ship manifest (name of person) where you are seeing DRLeP

Names crossed generally indicates they either did not board the ship OR the name was duplicated elsewhere on the manifest

Who is the person listed in departures but not on destination? If she is listed among departures then way don't you know from whence she departed? This part of your message is very confusing.

Robert Jerin
Croatian Heritage Museum
Cleveland Ohio

has certificate of arrival -- but not on manifest

stevenfagin — 2013-04-25 20:04:43Z

I just obtained a copy of my great grandmother's naturalization petition from the National Archives. The record includes her certificate of arrival, with the following details:

No. A3 633 704
Name: Froma Liba Levitt
Port of Entry: New York, NY
Date: June 24, 1909
Manner of Entry: S.S. President Grant
Issued: May 15, 1951

Additionally, the naturalization petition reports her birth date as February 15, 1885 and birthplace as Minsk, Russia. Her married name was Fannie (sometimes spelled Fanny) Fagin (sometimes Feigin). According to the petition, she married my great grandfather in Minsk a month before she came to the U.S. -- though he arrived separately after her, in 1910.

Unfortunately, I am unable to locate anyone with a name even close to "Froma Liba Levitt" on the manifest of the ship she supposedly arrived on. I went through the manifest screen by screen on Ancestry.com. I also used Jewishgen's "Accessing Ellis Island Manifests in One Step" tool to go through the original microfilm located on the Ellis Island website. There don't appear to be any pages missing -- they are sequentially numbered from 1 to 42.

Additionally, using search functions on the Ancestry website and on the Jewishgen website (which searches the Ellis Island website), I have been unable to locate anyone with a name like "Froma Liba Levitt" arriving on any ship at any time.

Can anyone explain what could be going on here?

Re: ship manifest - help please - no penmanship awards here

GermanRascal — 2013-04-25 03:58:09Z

i think he came first time 1904 to USA, whas there until 1909, goes home to pickup his family, and come back 1910
first time he lifes at Bessemer Michigan and the second travel also ends there, Bessemer Michigan at brother in law Maska Relitz - thats what i read

Abbreviations on ship passenger list

1_factor — 2013-04-25 01:01:44Z

I would like to know what the abbreviation is DRLeP listed on passenger name list with names crossed out.

Also I am trying to find a passenger that was listed in departures but is not listed as arriving at the port of destination. How do I locate where she may have departed?
Thanks

ship manifest - help please - no penmanship awards here

cherrytreesANDpasties — 2013-04-24 14:16:34Z

Several items are not clear to me on the manifest, so I'm hoping to get help reading it.

Franciszek Porembski, Anastazia, ?Aniela?, Jan and Anna

Unclear on the following:

* Does that say Aniela? (They do call her Ann in another record)

*Anna's age. 11/12..does this mean she's 11 months? 10 days later I have the family in Bessemer, MI, on a 1910 census and Anna is listed as age 3.

*Jan's age is 9 on the manifest, but 12 on the census 10 days later. Why?

*Last Perm. res. Austria (which is really Poland in this case) City or town. ? First town is crossed out, which actually I believe is Piwniczna. But town written above/in place of I can't read.

*Is that $200 or 900?

*Been in the States before, if so, when? Does that say 1904/9? Does that mean Frank was here in 1904 UNTIL 1909, or AGAIN in 1909?

*Joining relative or friend, if so who/where? It looks like brother in law in Bessemer, MI..but the name is unclear. However, it seems his sister married a Michael Relich, so is it possible that says Maska Relitz?

*Place of birth. There's that town again, and another cross out of what I believe is Piwniczna. But what's it replaced with?