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Piispanen, and Nelson, from Kivijarvi Finland to MA between 1893 and 1900

Piispanen, and Nelson, from Kivijarvi Finland to MA between 1893 and 1900

Posted: 26 Oct 2012 5:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
My grandmother was Sylvia Maria Piispanen, born in Kivijarvi Finland to Lauri Piispanen and Karoline Kinnunen.
She was 2nd youngest of about 6 children I think.
I know that all but the oldest came to Boston MA and settled in MA.
Sylvia came here in 1900, with her sister Impi, and older brother Vilheim(Wiliam in US) in 1900. Father was already in MA(Quincy I think) as were most of her sibblings.
I'd like name of ship date, port of dept, as well as date, and port of entry.
My grandfather was Frank Nelson. His middle name may have been(haven't confirmed this) Nikkarossi(check spelling)
His wifes name was Maria Nikula. I know Frank was also born in Kivivarvi(at least I think so). In 1912 Franks niece Tynne Nikkarossi, came to live with Frank, Maria, in W Quincy. She supposedly was an 8 or 9 year old orpahn.
I'd like information on Frank and Maria's immigration. as well.
Thank you
bbn

Re: Piispanen, and Nelson, from Kivijarvi Finland to MA between 1893 and 1900

Posted: 26 Oct 2012 6:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Frank Nelson & Maria Nikula were actually my great grandparents. Their son I think, was Alfred Nelson who married Sylvia Piiispanen, and they had one child, my dad in 1909 in Quincy.
Frank and Alfred may be brothers, I'm just not sure.
There is also Hjalmar Nelson and his wife Selma ?
and they are connected to Frank and Alfred as well, and living in W Quincy at least in the early 1940's.

Bbn

Re: Piispanen, and Nelson, from Kivijarvi Finland to MA between 1893 and 1900

Posted: 14 Jun 2013 6:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 14 Jun 2013 6:46AM GMT
Surnames: Piispanen/Nelson
Did you ever find out about the voyages your ancestors made? I had a search - but you might already have this information by this time.

Departing Liverpool and arriving Boston on the FRANCONIA on 31st Jul 1912

Tyyne Maria Nikkarikoski
Aged 8
Friend's name: Frank Nelson
Birth place: Tohalampi, Finland.
Mother: Anna Kobhmainen
Going to: Quincy.

The spelling of the names above aren't too clear but I think this is the Tynne you are looking for.
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Departing Liverpool and arriving Boston September 1900 on the ULTONIA.
Wilheim Piispanen 16 Labourer
Silvia 11
Yingi 9

They were going to: Lauri Piispanen, 14 Arthur St, Quincy, Massachusettes.
Last residence: Hango
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I saw several voyagesof someone who may be Frank, but I would need to know his birth date to have a better chance of finding him.
There was a voyage in 1909 of someone who (looks like) Frans Nelson, aged 31, and a Sauvia aged 28 (could this be Sylvia?) and they were with two children Mary aged 2, and Annie ?(the writing is poor)who is an infant. They are from Stull ??? Finland

Another voyage has a Frank Nelson arriving Boston 13 July 1908 and he is 38. He is with Mrs Mary E Nelson, but they are said to be going to Ohio.

Hope this helps a little. (Tyyne is second from the foot of the attachment)
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Re: Piispanen, and Nelson, from Kivijarvi Finland to MA between 1893 and 1900

Posted: 14 Jun 2013 6:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 14 Jun 2013 6:49AM GMT
And this is the ships passenger list for Wilheim, Silvia & Yingi on the Ultonia. They are numbered 26, 27 and 28 on the list.
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Re: Piispanen, and Nelson, from Kivijarvi Finland to MA between 1893 and 1900

Posted: 14 Jun 2013 12:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
My grandmother came to US to her dads Lauri Piispanen with her brother Wilheim as stated, but her sister was Impi Johanna not Yingi. How could that have been misread so badly.? Grandmother was Sylvia. The 3 came to US in 1900.
I need to ask if its possible to find out about Anna Kobhmainen. Where and when was she born, who did she marry, when and where did she die? I am asking because I was told several times that Tyyne was an orphan when she came to live with Frank Nelson(uncle I believe) age 8.
and just need to find out about her mom, because I know nothing about her as of yet.

I don't know Franks dob, but I do know he was married to Maria Nikula. I'm quite sure they were married in Finland, but not positive. Can any information be found on Maria Nikula? I know nothing about her other than her marriage.

Thank you
Barbara

Re: Piispanen, and Nelson, from Kivijarvi Finland to MA between 1893 and 1900

Posted: 14 Jun 2013 7:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nelson/Nikula/Puiatok
Hi,
Ships voyages:
"OCEANIC" Departed Southampton for New York on 13 May 1914
Maria Nikula
Aged 28 (or 23)
Arrived in UK at Hull

(Passengers coming from the continent, often got off at Hull, then got the train across country to leave for the USA from Liverpool.)

LACONIA" Departed Boston for Liverpool, arriving 30 Jul 1913.
Maria Nikola
Aged 23 born abt 1890
Domestic
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"STAVANGERFJORD" Arrived New York 14 Feb 1923 from Christiana, Norway.
Tyyne Nikula Going to Sister: Anna 1901 ave.P. Brooklyn, New York.

"AQUITANIA" Arrived New York 29 Jan 1929 from Southampton
Tynne E Nikula Aged 29
From city Raaha
Father Mr Johan Nikula Rahaa Pellanni Puiatok 10 Finland
In States before: 1923 and 1928.
Going to: Sister Mrs Aino Korkman 717 40th St, Brooklyn, NY.
Coming permantly to States. Intends to become citizen.

There are two voyages by a Tyyne Nikula, who was a teacher, but she is said to have been born at Cantree USA. On the 1940 census, she is a teacher at a school run by Alice B Ballard. Was Tyyne ever a teacher - no?

Deaths:
Tyne, I think, died at Wakefield, Michigan (Born 25 Dec 1893 Died June 1983 - I just don't Know if this is her)

MARIA O NELSON
SSN 021-36-6678
Quincy
b 9 Apr 1887
Died 1976 Massa

SYLVIA Marie Piispanen NELSON
SSN 032-18-9966
Last res: 01915 Beverley, Essex, Massa
Born 17 Feb 1888
Died Apr 1978 Massa

Find a Grave says she died at Melrose Middlesex County, Massa, and she is buried at Mount Wollaston Cemetery, Quincy.


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