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familly crest

Posted: 27 Mar 2002 4:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Rainey
Im looking for my familys crest when i was younger my grand mother showed it to me and told me its story it had a pair of white wings on top of flaunches(2 half circles) i was told my familly came from ireland so if any one would have some information on it, it would be a great help.

Re: familly crest

Hugh Macartney (View posts)
Posted: 27 Mar 2002 10:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Dec 2003 3:07AM GMT
Surnames: Rainey
Rainey is mainly found in eastern Ulster - Antrim and Down.
There can be several origins of the name:
1. It may denote descent from an Irish family, O Raighne.
2. It can of English or Scottish origin. In County Down Rainey was interchangeable with the Scottish name Rennie.
3The name Reaney is an anglicization of O Raighne.

As far as a family creat is concerned it is important to check your name's origins because there could be a variation in them. You should check in a library for books on Irish, Scottish and English heralry and see what the designs look like. There are many commercial companies who will provide you with a copy of a crest but it is important to make sure they are authentic and not, as is common, a made up one.
You could try <familycrests.com.r> or <iol.ie/~plugin/herald01> If you type in rainey family crest on one of the search engines such as Google you will find many of these. Flaunches or flanches are bites taken out of the sides of heraldic shields. Mnay so called "family crests" were simply made up by Victorian families to impress others and have little or no historical significance. So check authenticity before you buy.

Re: RAINEY family

Nicole (View posts)
Posted: 24 Apr 2002 1:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Dec 2014 4:14AM GMT
Surnames: Rainey, Stirling
I am related to the Robert (Robin) date of death 1/10/1845 and Margaret (Stirling)Rainey family of Balleymena, Antrim, Ireland (origionating from Isle of Mull & Stirling, Scotland reportedly). Are you related to these families? If so I would enjoy contact with you.

Nicole
gnab@mhtc.net

Re: RAINEY family

Hugh Macartney (View posts)
Posted: 24 Apr 2002 4:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Rainey
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Re: RAINEY family

Nicole (View posts)
Posted: 24 Apr 2002 8:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Dec 2014 4:21AM GMT
I will search there - thank you. My Rainey family came to Wisconsin in the mid 1800's after Robert (Robin) Rainey passed in Ballymena in 1845 and his son John passed in Drumcon, Ireland in 1847. The first US death is listed as 1859. So I have a period of 12 years to search American records. I can not tell the exact date the family went to Ireland from Scotland - except that the first grandchild of Robert was born in Ireland (Drumcon) in 1814. I had contacted several Raineys in Ireland but no one knew if we were related / no records. But that was a couple of years ago - perhaps I should try again. Thank you for your wonderful insight!

Nicole

Re: RAINEY family

Hugh Macartney (View posts)
Posted: 25 Apr 2002 12:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Dec 2014 4:21AM GMT
Surnames: .
Drumcon is a townland just outside Ballymena.
Posted: 22 Jul 2003 2:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,

Just saw your message. Did you get a copy of the crest you described yet? If not, let me know and I will scan it for you (this is also one of my Families Crests -- though general and old) and send it off to you.

Good luck and do let me know

Sincerely,

Michael W. Rainey, k.m.g.

Re: familly crest

Posted: 14 Jul 2014 2:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Rainey
I am still on the hunt for my coat of arms, since I have started looking I had found one website(no longer online) that had a copy but I did not buy a print when I had the chance, But I have found some information since. This was found in Armorial Families by Arther Charles
"RAINEY (U.O). Gules, two flunches or, over all two eagles' wings conjoined and erect proper. Mantling gules and or. Crest-On a wreath of the colours, issuant from a mural crown proper, a lions head or, guttee-de-l'armes
Motto — " Fuimus. " Livery — Steel grey, with scarlet facings and silver lace.

Surv. sons of Maj.-Gen. Arthur Jacob Macan Rainey,
formerly Madras Cavalry, b. 1826 ; d. 1906 ; m. 1854, refer].
Francis Edward Rainey, Gentleman, b. 1863.

Col. ROBERT MAXIMILIAN RAINEY-ROBINSON,
C.B., C.M.G., Indian Army (ret.). Born April 28, 1861, eld.
surv. son of Maj.-Gen. Arthur Jacob Macan Rainey, by his
wife Caroline Susanna, eld. d. of the Rev. William Robin-
son (second son of Sir John Robinson, 1st Baronet, of
Rokeby Hall, co. Louth). Armorial bearings— Quarterly,
1 and 4, vert, on a chevron or, between three bucks trippant
of the last and pellett6e, as many quatrefoils gules (for
Robinson) ; 2 and 3 gules, two flaunches or, over all two
eagles' wings conjoined and erect proper (for Rainey).
Mantling vert and or. Crests — 1. on a wreath of the
colours, a buck as in the arms (for Robinson) ; 2. on a
wreath of the colours, issuant from a mural crown proper,
a lion's head or, guttee-de-1'armes. Motto — "Fuimus."
Married, Dec. 2, 1903, Alice Frances, eldest dau. of Arthur
Hedding Hildebrand, CLE. , late Superintendent and Political Officer Southern Shan States. Postal address —
Mount Linton, Upwey, Weymouth. "

I would love to get a copy of it please respond to me at mrrainey83 at gmail thanks

Re: familly crest

Posted: 22 Jul 2014 12:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
If the arms you are looking for were granted in Ireland, try

Office of the Chief Herald of Ireland
Kildare Street
Dublin 2

www.nli.ie

info@nli.ie

If the arms are from Ulster,

Norrey and Ulster King of Arms, one of the three chief heralds of the College of Arms

College of Arms
Queen Victoria Street
London
EC4V 4BT

www.college-of-arms.gov.uk

(for Scotland:-The Court of the Lord Lyon, H M New Register House, Edinburgh, EH1 3YT
for Canada, Chief Herald of Canada, for US, there is a Heraldry Association of United States of America, but if the arms originate in UK or Ireland, as above; Australia comes under the heraldic jurisdiction of the College of Arms, London, as a Commonwealth country)

Caveat as ever:- arms are granted to individuals and are inherited by direct male line only, in their original form, and cannot, by various laws in different countries, be used by everyone with the same surname.

To use arms already granted, authority must be sort from the original granting authority, with evidence such as birth certificates and parish registers, back to a man who is registered with the granting authority as being legally allowed to use those arms. The evidence will be scrutinised by more than one herald, if that authority is the College of Arms.

The Heraldry Society www.theheraldrysociety, and the College of Arms websites are very useful for information and laws, the Heraldry Society also has some suggestions of helpful books.

The information on these two websites is written by the Heralds.

The book, Amorial Families, by Arthur Charles Fox-Davies, was published in the early 1900s.

I hope this is helpful to all those with similar queries regarding coats of arms which they feel may belong to them; a crest is only the design on top of a shield, and is normally only granted to men.


Matthew, I wish you the best of luck identifying the coat of arms you are asking about, and maybe having it confirmed to yourself, it is a long slow process, but could be rewarding in the end.

Best Wishes.

Re: "Family crest"

Posted: 28 Jul 2014 1:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jul 2014 1:55PM GMT
QUOTE
I am still on the hunt for my coat of arms, since I have started looking I had found one website(no longer online) that had a copy but I did not buy a print when I had the chance...
UNQUOTE
"...my coat of arms..." - Is this person (Col. ROBERT MAXIMILIAN RAINEY-ROBINSON, C.B., C.M.G.) directly related to either of you? If you don't have the necessary documented pedigree that establishes this fact, then you have no right whatsoever in claiming them as yours or your family's arms. They belong to the original grantee and his direct blood heirs, ONLY!

I suggest that you take the time and effort to read the FAQ on heraldic queries that can be found on this web-site or the FAQ pages on Francois Velde's excellent web-site at http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq
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