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Design our heraldy for town's new flag

Maureen Dabbagh  (View posts) Posted: 2 May 2004 8:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
The town of Capron has never had a flag, logo or seal. The town council is now looking for someone to design a crest.
Founded in 1888 in rural Virginia, Capron remains today much as it has since it became a town. [Previously Capron was called the Princeton Territory].
This is a tiny community of farmers. Farming is not only a way of life, but it has been handed down through the generations and the same families struggle to feed the nation.
Population of about 140 people, we are a proud community. We have no gocery store, no resturant or doctor. There is no hotel or movie house. We have the feed store [also built in 1888] a gas station, small post office and 3 churches.

If interested in helping us to create our town crest, please contact Maureen before May 10, 2004. MaureenDabbagh@aol.com

Re: Design our heraldy for town's new flag

m99389  (View posts) Posted: 3 May 2004 3:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Maureen,
Unfortunatly I do not master heraldic art (an actual drawing of the picture of crest, shiel etc..)
usually (but not allways) a crest is some charge of the shield. Doyou have one?.
here is an adress to association where is several very good artist www.amateurherlads.org
They can help you free of charge, or maybe you can look up for profesional help (usually that cost alot.
My advice to you is to post your query on the address I wrote and ask for help.
HTH

Re: Design our heraldy for town's new flag

Maureen Dabbagh  (View posts) Posted: 3 May 2004 2:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear HTH

Thank you for your adivce. I havecontacted thesite you refrenced. We are not looking for a "professional" but rather someone that can create from clip art a design reflecting our community. We do intend to have this made into a flag and our town seal.

Re: Design our heraldy for town's new flag

m99389  (View posts) Posted: 3 May 2004 3:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
HTH means hope that helps :)
u did well they are very capable
rgds

Re: Design our heraldy for town's new flag

Thomas A. Murray  (View posts) Posted: 7 May 2004 4:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
If I understand you correctly, you seek something to use as a flag and a seal, but not necessarily as a coat-of-arms on a shield. Actually, flags and shields are often related, and a flag is simply the shield 'bled' out into the quadrilateral shape of the flag. I have noticed that most places adopting civic arms tend to be overly eleaborate, creating a 'fussy' and unsuitable image. I would recommend simplicity.
Since you place an emphasis on farming and the pride of the natives of Capron, I might suggest a rooster ('cock') as a basic element. This represents both agriculture and pride. If the rooster was set against a sun, perhaps a 'sun in slendour', this would also reflect the way of life in farming (up with the sun, the importance of weather to farming), as well as a sense of optimism and hope. A 'sun in splendour' has 16 rays, alternating between straight points and wavy points. A couple of examples are at:
http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~amateurheralds/page_jank...
but without the face.
The rest of the flag could be blue, or anything except white. Blue seems suitable for a sun in the sky.
The sun and rooster could be used as a seal, and, if desired, a coat-of-arms could be derived from the flag, with a rooster appearing again as a crest. I would blazon this (help me out here fellows) as: 'azure, upon a sun in splendour or, a cock of the genus? _____ proper, in base the date '1888' argent'. That is, you would have to be pretty specific as to what kind of rooster it was. 'Proper' means in its natural colours. If you want to make the rooster one colour (not white), say black ('sable'), then you have to specify the colour of the comb and wattles ('combed (or crested) wattled and jelloped'), say, red ('gules'.) Also the beak and spurs. So, it could be 'a cock, sable, combed, wattled, jelloped and armed gules'. You can't use a white rooster as the term for white (let's not debate labels here) is argent, or silver. The sun has to gold, and you are not supposed to put a metal on a metal. (That's why the field cannot be white.) However, if the rooster is of a particular kind that is naturally white, you can use it, but it would be 'proper', making it alright. The date, 1888, below the sun, could be white (argent) as it would be on the blue field.
The seal could be two concentric circles. In the inner circle would be the sun with the rooster on it, and in the space between the rims of the circles something like, "Seal of the Town of Capron, ____ County, Virginia - 1888"; with the '1888' in the centre of the bottom.
Consider (and be explicit) about the dimensions of the flag. It could be 2 by 3, (any vexolligists around?), 3 by 5, 2 by 4, 1 by 1, etc.; but should be defined.

Thomas

Re: Design our heraldy for town's new flag

Thomas A. Murray  (View posts) Posted: 7 May 2004 5:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Something like this, but better.
Thomas
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