A way back about the time ole Paul was born folks used cross cut saws to cut trees, wood etc. Often when you would cut a dead chestnut tree the little black ants would be all over the stump until it was almost black. My grand father and some of his sons were cutting wood and cut such a tree. Now John was a younster and his brother Charlie offered him a penny to pull his pants down and sit bare bottom on the stump for a minute. A penny was a lot of money to a youngn' in those days and there was alot of ants but he decided to take him up on the offer. There arose a problem, no one had a watch!
They agreed to let grandpa count for the minute. Uncle John said" I always thought pa counted for a long time" which he probably did..

jist ole clyde