Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
What is the point of the article you just reference. Has it anything to do with jr and Sr. I looked at it at a glance and found nothing in Ref., to the main subject. Am I missing something.
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Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
It wasn't intended to be a reference. It was part of the signature line in my email indicating I'd written the book.
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Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
In the Painters @ 1700 in PA, Sr meant the elder and Jr. meant the younger and the two were unrelated. Maybe a German thing?
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Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
In my tree I have a William Hayden Gregory in Georgia as the father of Wesley Hall Gregory. However, the Georgia Marriage record in 1893 for Wesley lists him as W. H. Gregory, Jr. I thought Jr. meant the same name. Does anyone know if this was common practice in Atlanta Georgia at the time to list the son with a different name as the dad but same initials as "Jr." or do I have the wrong record?
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Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
I don't know about any other state and I have traveled and I am pretty well read in a layman's certain way; but all my life I have only send it one way. There is a Sr. and then a Jr. and in most cases the III, IV, V, etc. Some times I have send the 1st, 2nd, etc.; but one thing they all had in common was the same First, Middle (if there is one), second middle initial if there is one. They don't deviate in any way in spelling. If it is. It may have occurred or lost in translation or miss-spelled.
I think it is some ones wrong interpretation when it is done any other way. It defeats the purpose of the whole idea of carrying on the name. That is the pride of the whole thing. You pass on the name in it's entirety.
It is the tradition and the pride that the creator of the Sr. name is to carry on the tradition and name of that relative. The other children can have different names; but they are not a junior or any numerical sequence in succession. They are just other siblings or children.
I have seen it no other way and I have been on this earth a long time. Any other way defeats the whole process. God Bless and God Speed, Danny
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Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
Sad to say but all variations are possible, although not all are correct. I am confident that some may have used Sr. and Jr. to distinguish between same named individuals who were not related. However this was certainly not the norm, and should be treated as the exception.
It may also be cultural, from my experience most commonly Jr. is the son of Sr. and the names are identical including middle name. I have friends from Germany however, who use Sr. and Jr. references and they do not have the same middle name. I also have a relative who is listed as the III, however he is named after his Uncle who is the Jr. and not named after his father.
I have heard of people sliding up the scale from Jr. to Sr. when Sr. passes, however I have never actually seen this. I think it is more common for a Jr. to have the same full name as his father, and to always remain a Jr.
Les Torrey III
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Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
Thanks Les I had a feeling there were many variations in usage.
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Re: Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?
There are variations to everything; but it does not make it right. I am sure there is a set rule somewhere it all started from.
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