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Searching for Kopcho's

Posted: 12 Apr 2014 5:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kopcho, Malato
My great Grandfather is Andrew Kopcho born March 23rd 1889 in Velikiye Komyaty (I believe- the spellings we have are Velka Komjati Velki Komyata Austria-Hungry,Czechoslovakia) He immigrated to the US in April 1914. His wife is Sophia Malato Kopcho born March 1, 1891 in Austria-Hungry (Czechoslovakia), They were married in St Michaels Church (in Austria) on 1/25/1911 by a Rev John Haroby. We are trying to figure out where exactly this town is. Velikiye Komyaty is the closest current town we could match it up to with the spellings we have. But we can not find many other records with parents information so our family tree stops with Andrew and Sofia. We just would love to learn more about this side of the family. Thank you.

Re: Searching for Kopcho's

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 1:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Kandi
Up to 1918 it was Austria-Hungary where 12 different languages were spoken.
After the fall of this empire several new countries were formed and one was Czechoslovakia [full map] www.cgsi.org [After WW2 Ruthenia went to Soviet Union now Ukraine]

Velikiye Komyaty populated place
48°14' N 22°58' E

E M U G

Ukraine
371.9 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E

https://web.archive.org/web/20121102022714/http://all.zakarp...

http://www.ukraine.com/forums/genealogy/

arr. NY Ellis Island:
Kopcso, Janos Magyarkomjat, Hungary 27 1883 1910
Kopcso, Mihaly M. Komjati 24 1875 1899
Kopcso, Vaszyl Magyarkomjat, Hungary 27 1883 1910
Kopcsa, Gyorgy Magyar Komjat, Hungary 24 1890 1914
Kopcsa, Maria Magyar Konyat, Hungary 27 1880 1907
Kopcsa, Pal Magyar Komjat, Hungary 18 1891 1909

http://www.maplandia.com/ukraine/zakarpatska/velikiye-komyat...
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm
map of Ugocsa megye, Hungary :
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ugocsa.jpg
place names in Ugocsa megye, Hungary
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g161.shtml

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Velikiye_Komyaty/

Re: Velikiye Komyaty, Ukraine

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 1:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 20 Apr 2014 1:57AM GMT
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/41-48.jpg
left side margin by word Ungarn not far from the top of the map to MGY. KOMJAT;

Kopcsa Portas, Julia Nagy Komjat, Hungary 21 1891 1912
Kapcsa, Maria Nagy Komjat, Hungary 17 1895 1912
Kopcsa, Gyorgy M. Kowzat, Hungary 36 1878 1914

http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100
http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG_maps/series/100K_300dpi/P56_S36...
top of the map 72 to VEL. KOMNATY;

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/index.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/41-48_szatm...
not far from the top; left side of the map down to SALANK and MAGYARKOMJAT;

Do you have your Andrew's arrival manifest?

Re: KOPCHO, MALETA

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 2:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 20 Apr 2014 2:20AM GMT
Kandi
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KHF8-Y77

Name: Anthony M Dinoski
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 02 Mar 1946
Event Place: , Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States
Age: 27
Birth Year (Estimated): 1919
Father's Name: Charles Dinoski
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name: Anna Antol Dinoski
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: Mary Kopcho
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1922
Spouse's Father's Name: Andrew Kopcho
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name: Sophie Maleta Kopcho
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Reference ID:
GS Film Number: 2224855
Digital Folder Number: 004833172
Image Number: 00644

Maleta, Laklo Magyarkamjaf, Hungary 30 1879 1909
Maleta, Laszlo N.Rouyat 26 1879 1905
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XH78-764
Name: Androw Kopcho
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States
District: 0276
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1890
Birthplace: Czechoslovakia
Immigration Year: 1914
Father's Birthplace: Czechoslovakia
Mother's Birthplace: Czechoslovakia
Sheet Number and Letter: 6A
Household ID: 92
Line Number: 1
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T626
Affiliate Film Number: 2074
GS Film number: 2341808
Digital Folder Number: 004639405
Image Number: 00393
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Androw Kopcho M 40 Czechoslovakia
Wife Sophia Kopcho F 38 Czechoslovakia
Daughter Mary Kopcho F 8 Pennsylvania
Son John Kopcho M 6 Pennsylvania
Son Charles Kopcho M 4 Pennsylvania
Daughter Julia Kopcho F 2 Pennsylvania
Son Androw Kopcho M 0 Pennsylvania
Boarder John Simcavage M 40 Austria

I'm not a paid Ancestry subscriber so cannot view the 1930 census.

Re: KOPCHO, MALETA

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 2:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you I will check out this lead! I found An Andrew Kopse listed on a 1914 passenger list and everything matches what I know other then the spelling of the last name so I am hoping that is also a good lead. I will check out this other site though and the other sites you have found. Thank you so much for your assistance!

Re: KOPCHO, MALETA

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 2:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome Kandi
Where is this KOPSE's arrival manifest?
The US born children's baptismal record should have parents place of birth.

Re: KOPCHO, MALETA

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 2:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
I found this passenger list

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=nypl&h=401...

The birth year and final destination of Wilkes Bares PA matches exactly to what we have. Then the 1930 census:

http://interactive.ancestry.com/6224/4639405_00393/53170065?...

Those are all the correct names (except they spelt it Androw), the kids are my Grandpa's brother's and sisters.

Re: KOPCHO, MALETA

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 2:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Being that I'm not a paid Ancestry subscriber, I cannot view what you found. If you are trying to show me an NY EI arrival manifest, that I can view so just tell me few things and I can locate it.

Re: KOPCHO, MALETA

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 2:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sure- Andrew Kopse, Arrived April 24, 1914, on the Pannonia

Re: KOPCHO, MALETA

Posted: 20 Apr 2014 2:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Kopse, Andrew Sevastopol, Russia 25 1889 1914

How can this be your ancestor if you have mentioned a location that was in Czechoslovakia?
What US records have you collected on your ancestor? Naturalization intent & petition; SS#; death certificate; draft registration form?
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