Metis - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: I have E Bacon Vaughan's document, not sure it has everything

valley2124 — 2013-05-19 18:42:56Z

It is too bad that the furthest we can go back on Magdeleine's side, is her, herself.
It would be fantastic if there was any info.
Laura

Re: I have E Bacon Vaughan's document, not sure it has everything

Edwarderamezay — 2013-05-18 11:09:39Z

Hi Laura,

You are pretty much correct I believe; Charles and Magdeleine are Canada's Adam and Eve, the number of children off this marriage of the family ALONE is incredible, not to even mention the Denys and the de la Ronde family of New France. I am descended from through Julie as well, but the family line (outside of Métis blood in Canada) as you know goes back some 700 years into France and the nobility families of Normandie, ESP Tours France. My family has collected thousands of documents, the work never ends. I like the Adam and Eve reference!

Re: Questions regarding Metis heritage and the Quebec records

houdem — 2013-05-12 20:11:12Z

I found the baptism that you are referring to. It states that he is the "fils naturel" of his father which means that his parents weren't married (at least not in an official Catholic marriage).

I also found a baptism for his sister, Marie Elisabeth, baptized age 11 in 1822 in Berthierville which refers to her mother as a sauvagesse.

Both baptisms also say that the children were born in "les pays haut" (basically in the middle of nowhere) so it looks like once the children were old enough to travel the father took them to a priest to be baptised.

Re: Questions regarding Metis heritage and the Quebec records

wemcleod — 2013-05-12 11:31:58Z

We have found a baptismal record for Jean Baptist Leopold Iserhoff,whose mother was full Cree,but, there is only mention of the father and witnesses on the baptismal record. The mother wasn't even recorded. Was it because she was native?
Sheryl

Re: What tribe is Tunis Sanders DANFORD - Canada > early 1900's US

SandraLChilders — 2013-04-23 19:23:09Z

if you have any information on Tunis Danford, could you please tell me at san2158610@maricopa.edu

carrier

mormad01 — 2013-04-22 16:57:51Z

i am looking for the family of genevieve carrier married to joseph beaudit, they are my gggrandparents trying to find my metis connection and where i come from.
please email me at
leola.becker@gmail.com

Re: descendants of Jean CADIEU m. Marie BOURDON - metis

haulsafe — 2013-04-10 05:41:19Z

Mehwatta Pachirini, Algonquine Kichesipirini --Adopted by Jacques and Marie Menard and there was a second Marriage with Antoine Quenneville 26-5-1710 Longueuil,Quebec

Re: descendants of Jean CADIEU m. Marie BOURDON - metis

haulsafe — 2013-04-10 05:39:44Z

Mehwatta Pachirini, Algonquine Kichesipirini --Adopted by Jacques and Marie Menard and there was a second Marriage with Antoine Quenneville 26-5-1710 Longueuil,Quebec

Re: Flett, Bertha m Morsette, Archibald winnipeg manitoba 1907

mariemlm4163 — 2013-04-10 05:25:02Z

hello, thank you for your reply. I have quite a lot of info on the Morsette family ancestry.. Mainly interested in pics and personal stories and info re metis ancestry. also info on their son Ernie Morsette & pics you may have.
my email address is
col4mad@hotmail.com (that is letter l and number 4)
thanks

Re: Flett, Bertha m Morsette, Archibald winnipeg manitoba 1907

decawson — 2013-04-09 20:48:39Z

These are my great grandparents as well, what information are you looking for ?

Re: Questions regarding Metis heritage and the Quebec records

CadboroBay — 2013-04-09 01:49:35Z

I have Marie Vaudry as the daughter of Toussaint Vaudry and Marie-Anne Crebassa. Marie-Anne's Scrip application from the National Archives is as follows:
"Reference: RG15, Interior, Series D-II-8-a, Volume 1320, Reel C-14926, Access code: 90
File Title: Scrip affidavit for Crebassa, Maria; widow of Toussaint Vaudry; born: July, 1807; mother: Suzanne (Sauteuse Indian); father: John Crebassa (French Canadian); claim no.: 800; scrip no.: 6233 to 6240; date of issue: July 12, 1876; amount: $160
Finding Aid number: 15-19"
I have not found a Scrip application for Marie Vaudry but she is identified in at least three of her chidlren's Scrip as Métis.
Take care....Stan

Re: Questions regarding Metis heritage and the Quebec records

leahsasges — 2013-04-08 17:51:50Z

Yes, I just came across an instance of this. Marie Vaudry m. Romaine Lagimodiere was listed as "half-breed" and there is a script claim for her 9 children.

I looked at her parents (to try and see where the metis was coming from) and they are both listed as 100% french.

I guess the trail ends there......

Re: To all descendants of Marie-Madeleine Euphrosine NICOLET, métis (1626-1698) (Jean & sauvagesse Nipissing)

eclaire37331 — 2013-04-07 18:45:39Z

my Name is Claire Nolette Felix. I am a descendant of Marie-Madeleine Euphrosine Nicolet and Elie Dussault.

Re: manitouabeouich/outchibahabanoukoueou

joannedaly90 — 2013-04-03 15:35:24Z

hello... j.b. prevost and genevieve sedillot. I see u got ur metis card... Did u get it after the rules where change?I think in 2009.I was wondering If you have JB Prevost and Genevieve documents.Iam miss them for my children to get theirs.Also is there anything you have saying J.B Provost half native. Some type of word. Thanks .can u email me Joannedaly90@hotmail.com

Re: Catherine and Edmee Lejeune : europeans

Dominique_Ritchot — 2013-04-02 13:49:32Z

Recent DNA tests have proven that both Lejeune sisters are of European ancestry (6 times for Catherine, 4 times for Edmee):

http://www.acadian-home.org/frames.html

Test result: Haplogroup U6a - European

Re: father Jean-Paul Letourneau's book

Dominique_Ritchot — 2013-04-02 13:48:55Z

To set the record clear :

One of the main purpose In ethno-history and genealogy is to establish the credibility of a document and to validate the facts reported in the said source.

Genealogy is not about fabrication and lore, it's about facts and documentation. To present speculations as facts is misleading.

Father Letourneau was neither an historian, nor a genealogist. He was an obscur parish priest. A good researcher has to know what he is looking at when he cites sources, which Father Letourneau was not capable of in his book. No references, no sources are cited. Just a mention that he saw what he thought was a private church register (only twice, and he could not take any notes !), when it has been stated many times that it was the firs church register of Fort Trois-Rivieres, on the St. Maurice river, Quebec, Canada's oldest written document.

All of the lines in his books were doublechecked by certified genealogists with original documents and all of them lead to European settlers, bar two Natives ancestries. No brick walls, a few unknown origins, only one name change (e European settler). Father Letourneau even managed to contradict many of his claims in the same page.

Recent DNA tests have proven that both Lejeune sisters are of European ancestry (6 times for Catherine, 4 times for Edmee):

http://www.acadian-home.org/frames.html

Test result: Haplogroup U6a - European

Re: Catherine and Edmee Lejeune : europeans

paullleblanc — 2013-04-02 13:11:20Z

There are several martins. Plus "people" repearly will ASSUME that the first name we have records of will have a father of the same name.

Re: father Jean-Paul Letourneau's book

paullleblanc — 2013-04-02 13:04:54Z

Sorry this "book" is not a list of Amerindians.
It is a list of those, at that time, had no mention of being from Europe.

Too many Acadian records have have been lost to do this.

Re: Catherine and Edmee Lejeune : europeans

Sdshadowfax — 2013-04-02 04:24:57Z

European markers yes- as in Metis, perhaps?

Re: father Jean-Paul Letourneau's book

Sdshadowfax — 2013-04-02 04:15:03Z

It's known that Native names were changed to Christian to protect native children and historically, the eldest of each generation would know of the changes in the names. What Father Jean-paul said is completely possible- this is why we often run into brick walls trying to follow the Blackbird/ letourneau History. See Nishnawbe archives (Roots)

Re: Metis lines

josiehiscock — 2013-03-29 18:38:24Z

That is what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation. Jo-Anne

Re: Metis lines

Dominique_Ritchot — 2013-03-29 12:31:03Z

Just for the record.

Simply because names are listed in a so-called Metis board does not imply they are Metis.

I was trying to help a researcher. I am not related to these families.

Regards.

Re: Fousseneuve

Norm_langevin — 2013-03-28 18:55:56Z

Please give me a call at 780-884-5057 . Thank you
Norm

Re: Fousseneuve

Norm_langevin — 2013-03-28 18:55:56Z

Please give me a call at 780-884-5057 . Thank you
Norm

Re: Fousseneuve

Norm_langevin — 2013-03-28 18:55:41Z

Please give me a call at 780-884-5057 . Thank you
Norm

Re: Metis lines

JoAnneHiscock07 — 2013-03-27 02:40:30Z

My Grandfather was Francois Xavier Bourdages, son of Christine Bujold and Eugene Bourdages (Bordege, Bordage, Bordages, some other spellings as well.
I see in your post that you have a list of names are they all metis or are you looking for a connection?

Thank you

Jo-Anne Hiscock (josiehiscock@rogers.com)

Re: Flett, Bertha m Morsette, Archibald winnipeg manitoba 1907

mariemlm4163 — 2013-03-25 09:29:19Z

Do you have any info on the family or ancestry? my email is col4mad@hotmail.com (that is letter l and number4)

Re: Flett, Bertha m Morsette, Archibald winnipeg manitoba 1907

wjjtm — 2013-03-21 18:29:15Z

Archibald was my great grandfather.

Re: Evans m. Holland - Evans m. Genaille - Evans m. Taylor - Genaille m. Pelletier

tdround24 — 2013-03-20 04:17:00Z

Hi Tomboy

Tried emailing you but would not go through. Am interested in information on Mary rose genaille and her parents.
My email is. Tdround@gmail.com

Thanks
Tracy

Re: Manitouabe8ich

silverrose1942 — 2013-03-19 14:01:48Z

Hi there was wondering what you meant about Marie's parents not being "shamen" What do you mean? thanks

Re: to Mary - re: Marie Manitoubewich

silverrose1942 — 2013-03-19 13:59:06Z

Hi there not sure exactly what you require. I know if you go to her page Marie you will find so much information. If you can let me know what you need I will try to send it to you,. Have you been able to get your Metis card yet?

Re: Indiens Algonquins de Trois-Rivières

deMillette — 2013-03-18 20:50:55Z

I am related to the most of the same folks you mentioned in your quest....my last name is Millette, was spelled different ways through the many generations, and I too related to the Pelletier's , Brouellette's and Girards, or Gereaux, and Grinier's . I actually have a copy of ancestors marraige certs. Michael Brouillette/Bruette, and Alexis Millet... Patenaude's and more...Plasse's...and the original Nicolas Milette and his wife Michelle Lesdiller They were Hurron's...however the families married into a line of different Algonquin Clans down threw the generations. Nicolas Milette was a slave in Quebec.

If you have any other questions I may answer just reply, thank you..debbie millette-sanchez

Re: to Mary - re: Marie Manitoubewich

joannedaly90 — 2013-03-13 18:34:53Z

hi lee
seen your post. They are in my tree line.can u send me information

Re: Fousseneuve

powerhalliday — 2013-03-13 05:26:31Z

Louise and Joe Shott had 5 children. Josephine, Lynna, Veronica, John, and Georgina, in that order. Josephine and Veronica survive today -March 2013.

Re: LaRocque Quebec Metis

chantalzurowski — 2013-03-11 21:17:51Z

this info is from the PRDH website

Individual
# 38853
PHILIBERT COUILLAUD LAROCQUE LAROCQUEBRUNE Status(es) : Immigrant
Birth : around 1641 ev. nevers, nivernais (nievre)

First marriage : before 1677-10-15 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec)
with
CATHERINE LAPORTE STGEORGES
Father : JACQUES LAPORTE STGEORGES
Mother : MARIE NICOLE DUCHESNE
Family

Re: Metis "Status" Cards DO NOT mean NOTHING!

1_catbaloo — 2013-03-11 13:33:46Z

Thank you very much for this very informed explanation.

Catherine

Re: Who is Marie DeMOUET, indian

1_catbaloo — 2013-03-11 11:49:31Z

Hello Denise:

Did you ever get an answer to your question about Marie DeMouet and find out if she is Hurton, Algonquin, etc.

Thank you,

Re: You Are Welcome!

alpha_mare — 2013-03-10 02:43:16Z

Thanks again. I will.

Re: looking for info on metis ancestors - St-Germain m. Belanger & Deguire m. Sauve

meyermichael76 — 2013-03-09 06:32:01Z

CindyMurray1885--- Geneva Trudeau is Medric Deguire's mother. I am Medric's Great Great Grandson. There is a record in French from Quebec with the spelling of Mederique Deguire.

You Are Welcome!

paulburke40 — 2013-03-07 23:44:30Z

Sure,

If you get stuck on anything or what a line item looked at, send me an email.

Sincerely,

Paul B.
seesouls@hotmail.com

Re: Murrow Indian Orphans Home Article URL

alpha_mare — 2013-03-07 19:27:35Z

Thank you Paul for all the information. That was very kind of you. I have some stuff to check now. I have the tree for what the records say, I cannot tell who is native American, but by pictures and they are not in any type of dress that shows it or gives any clue as to what nation. Thank you again.

Re: Hamlin

nadinelee25 — 2013-03-04 04:53:13Z

Anna Hamelin was the daughter of Joseph Solomon Hamelin (B: may 27, 1882) and madeleine berland.

children:
anna hamelin married joseph bourque m: august 19, 1887
isabelle hamelin b: april 23, 1901
alfred hamelin b: may 07, 1903
agnes hamelin b: february 1, 1906

Metis "Status" Cards DO NOT mean NOTHING!

alacours — 2013-03-01 18:04:54Z

Metis Status cards do not have any benefits in the US,

but in Canada, organizations that issue cards to their registered members based on a community do get huge funding from government for a wide variety of programs, including but not limited to: social wellness, housing assistance, education, work placement assistance, health studies and programs, cultural studies and reports, heritage events, cultural workshops, festivities and other events, and so many other programs.

Some organizations have agreements with government to conduct organized harvesting rights (like hunting) and, based on the numbers of their registered members, have representation on very many levels for the well-being and preservation of Metis culture and heritage. So every person who gets a Metis Status card helps their community in obtaining more of a voice for them.

Also, Metis Status card holders in Canada can get placement in a university or college program that might otherwise be denied to them. And of course, there is scholarship and bursary money for education expenses that Metis can apply for (and many have received).

Companies that participate in employment equity programs will give consideration to the 4 most under-represented groups in Canada -- visibly minorities, handicapped persons, women, and aboriginal people. Metis are considered one of 3 types of aboriginal people as outlined in the Canadian Constitution.

But above all these benefits, most people just want to have proof of their ancestry and a Metis Status card to prove it. Most are tired of years and generations of hiding and they just want to be proud of who they are, and know their family story. Metis Status cards are a very personal thing for so many people and not everyone is just looking for a handout.

Who knows what the future will hold for the Metis, but with the new court ruling about Metis being duly consulted by the Federal government, there might be a day when everyone will scramble to get their Status card.

As it is, there is a backlog with some organizations that is over a year long, because one thing they do not have funding for is verifying applicant's genealogy, so they will not find nor correct your native line documents for you. If you don't have all of them, they will refuse you. While some groups will help with finding your native ancestors for a fee, not all will provide you with the answers of what they find, so ask before you apply.

Before getting a Metis Status card, be sure you don't just apply to the first organization you see. Some groups only accept members who have a type of proof and belong to a specific group, and will deny status even after paying your money. You can still apply to another group, but it's better if you know which one will accept your ancestry and the proof you have before applying. Websites don't always tell the whole picture of what is needed, which can cause frustration if you think you have enough proof and find out you don't.

Best is to call them to ask what they need, if your family fits into their community, and what you will get for their processing fee or any other services they offer.

Some groups help with research but not all provide you with the results of that research, so ask what you will get if they find your native line for you, before asking for their help and paying them anything.

Also ask about how they intend to represent you if you apply for Metis Status with them. Not all groups seek to represent their members on a government level, and not all groups claim to represent every Metis. They do not share resources, they do not share funding, they do not share files and databases. Also, some groups may refuse if you are already registered with another group, so make sure you apply to the one that best suits you. In Ontario, the following groups were listed on the Canadian Aboriginal Portal website (2013) as organizations issuing Metis Status cards:

Communities of the Voyageur Metis
Metis Registry, The (MNO)
OCAP
OMFRC
Saugeen Metis

laframboise

mlbeckett1 — 2013-02-27 18:33:14Z

Hi i was wondering if you found out more on the laframboise side because in our family we are missing a brother he went to the states and never heard from him and have no info on him to my understanding he left canada as a fur trader and scout to to your area you have mention i would liike to talk to you more about this and it might help on the marcotte side of that im from mattawa ontario and just recived my staus card as native we found out that we are blue blood !!!!!!!!!!!!! and we are from a longline of cheifs as for laframbise name has been here 1644 we have reseached far to that year we cant find nothing farther then that My name is Mandy beckett my mother is Wonita Laframboise ...great (x4) grandmother is Mary (roseberry) strikfoot which is a dauther of a royal cheif please email me back at mlbeckett@hotmail.com

Re: manitouabeouich/outchibahabanoukoueou

Irene853 — 2013-02-25 23:27:37Z

In recent years I have left messages on here, if anyone wants help and don't understand the new rules due to some court cases won. I would again, recommend that if you leave a message on here not everyone knows how to respond to your message.. so please please leave your contact number or email number... maybe then you will get help.

Re: manitouabeouich/outchibahabanoukoueou

silverrose1942 — 2013-02-25 19:33:57Z

Your right of course however the Ontario Metis Nation does NOT accept this it must say somewhere, Metis. I know I got my card before the Powley case and that is what they are basing their information on. I recommend people go through the Metis Nation of Canada at http://www.metisnationofcanada.org/ they are here for everyone who can prove some sort of Native/Metis in their geneology. I have been doing this search for over 25 years and I can GUARANTEE you will Not get a card from the Ontario Metis Nation without the words from the Powley case. Hope this helps many out there. ths

Re: manitouabeouich/outchibahabanoukoueou

64me63 — 2013-02-25 17:33:13Z

My line comes in on the Paquette (Paquet) end of things. My ggrandmother was Julienne Paquet who married Alexander Richey (Richard).

Re: manitouabeouich/outchibahabanoukoueou

Robert_Charney — 2013-02-25 17:23:32Z

I am going from memory and I am pretty sure that there is an online document that says she was a sauvauge they do not use the word native or Indian back then and if this person is saying it has to say this then they do not know what they are doing. Historically natives or Indians ere described as anything but that.

Re: Evans m. Holland - Evans m. Genaille - Evans m. Taylor - Genaille m. Pelletier

Glentrammon — 2013-02-25 15:52:46Z

Hi Tomboy, Have tried to contact you a couple of times but no luck with your email address for some reason? Would you mind contacting me at following email address:

atshuttle@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance, Max

Re: manitouabeouich/outchibahabanoukoueou

Joannedaly1962 — 2013-02-25 14:19:56Z

I see where Metis Nation Ontario is one price 30.00 and youdont have to renewe it ever. They said you dont get it back if ur not accepted. They said youare or ur not that they dont accept everyone and there has to be prove. At the
Metis Nation of Canaada and Maniwaki Metis Nation you have to renewe every 5 years...They are like where my mom got her's in Quebec she had to renewe every 5 years.. But now she has the Full Status Card and so do I due to the Bill C3. We got that on my Grandmother side father. Cesar Paul he and his children lived in Maniwaki resever till he move them out of there when the Whiteman was going taking the children and he didn't want that for his kids... His Wife is Alexina Paquette(she is the one connected to lineage of Martin Provost And Marie Oilver) Anyway Geting back to the Metis thing..I was also told you are only allowed to join in one place. You said you have card in both place....So we can do that? Also is it the same Privilliage has the Metis Nation Ontario? Just trying to understand the whole pitcure.Thanks Joanne