Creek (Muskogee) - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Rachel: Creek Freedman

prestonwashington61 — 2013-05-21 19:35:49Z

Same here Cam. My computer is down right now. I'll share info after the repair work is complete. We have a lot of cousins in the Wagner area.

Re: Rachel: Creek Freedman

CambraeG — 2013-05-21 18:58:21Z

Hey, Preston I am a descendent of Cora and my grandpa's name was Lonnell Mayberry unfortunately he died at 31 years of age and I never got to meet him. I live in Broken Arrow Oklahoma and I often visit the grave site of Cora and Anthony at the family cemetery in the Broken Arrow Wagner area.

Nice to meet you,
Cam

Re: Please help! Trying to trace Pippen/Taylor line.

paulathames — 2013-04-23 19:22:34Z

Benjamin Pippin *1808*, was married to Catherine (Kitty) Ann Taylor. Benjamin was born to Micajah Pippin (1764-1820) & Ann. Micajah's parents were Benjamin Pippin (1730-1800) & Charity Monteque (1730-1800).
I am also stuck on Kitty's mother, & have nothing after her dad: Richard Lawerence Taylor.

Re: Please help! Trying to trace Pippen/Taylor line.

paulathames — 2013-04-20 17:44:00Z

I also have ties to Benjamin Pippen. He had a son Levi Pippin, who had a daughter Maggie Mae Pippen, who had a daughter Lenora Lynn Stafford, who gave birth to my dad, Ronnie Thames.

Re: CREEK GGRANDMOTHER LISTED AS BLACK-HELP!!

Demuha50 — 2013-02-09 15:16:01Z

Thank you.This helps, I was not aware of this information.

Re: CREEK GGRANDMOTHER LISTED AS BLACK-HELP!!

JayBrimberry — 2013-02-08 23:31:25Z

I don't know how much this will help but it is my understanding that many in the Creek Nation kept african-american slaves even after they moved to Oklahoma. At the end of the amercan civil war the US government required many of the creeks to sign a new treaty because most of them sided with the Confederate States and in the treaty of 1866 they were required to emancipate their slaves and take them in as full members of the Creek Nation. After that many ex-slaves and decendants of slaves held positions of power within the Creek Nation.

Re: Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

synima — 2013-01-21 15:03:36Z

Thank you very much Evelyn.
Every little piece of information helps at this time, and I am taking my time going through the entire list to see if anything turns up.
I certainly appreciate your taking the time to respond.
Have a wonderful 2013

Norris

Re: Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

EvelynLeslie25 — 2013-01-02 15:16:08Z

In 1783 the State of Georgia passed an Act confiscating the property belonging to known Loyalists and banished them from the state. Many of them, such as the Weatherfords, had Creek family connections. Most fled to either England or the British held islands in the Caribbean. This is a link to a list of Loyalists banished that is on the GA USGENWEB:
http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga/effingham/military/revwar/l...

I browsed through it and didn't see any actual surnames of Crick or Creek but thought I'd post it in case there were other names of interest.
Evelyn S. Leslie

Re: Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

Otis_Fuller — 2012-12-31 20:02:40Z

Kathy, and Norris,

Thank you for your replies: I just wanted to add that the earliest Coosa County, Alabama Record Book (1834-1858) includes many Creek Indian "Surnames," and that the first 3 or 4 pages of this book are entirely devoted to the estates of Creeks. These people were of course either removed, killed, or otherwise deceased, at the time of Creek Removal in 1831-1832. Before then, almost all of the land in Alabama east of the Coosa River belonged to the Creeks, except for the northwest corner of the state, north of Wills Valley, which was Cherokee. Some of the wealthier Creeks and Cherokees (mostly "mixed-Bloods" - with Whites) also owned plantations, and kept slaves.

Wishing you both a very Happy New Year!

Otis Fuller

Re: Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

synima — 2012-12-31 18:45:24Z

Thank you very much for your response, Otis, and for the additional insights provided.
I will certainly follow up as you suggested, and hopefully this journey will lead to some interesting and helpful outcomes.
I hope that you and yours will have a very blessed, peaceful and safe New Year.

Norris

Re: Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

synima — 2012-12-31 18:44:43Z

Thank you very much for your response. Kathy!
I am really just starting this venture from scratch, and at this time I am quite eager to follow up all leads that I can possibly get. With that in mind, would you happen to know how best to get in touch with the Creek Nation?
Once again, thanks, and I hope that you and yours will have a very blessed, safe and peaceful New Year.

Norris

PS. Does the VA after your name mean that you are in Virginia?

Re: Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

Otis_Fuller — 2012-12-31 18:44:09Z

Synima, Kathy is exactly right:The various Muscogean tribes did in fact choose to locate their settlements along waterways. The word "Crick," is also still a common pronunciation for the word creek, (referring to a stream or creek- Redneck Speech Example: "Raht cheer at t'other side o' the crick.") at least in rural Coosa County, AL, where my Fuller family is from, and which was smack in the middle of Alabama Creek Indian country until the last Creek Indian removal in 1831-1832. Actually, some of my cousins also claim a bit of Creek heritage from their lines. Additionally - as for your reference to Carribean Islands: Recent DNA, linguistic and archeological evidence suggests that the Southeastern Muscogean tribes descend or are related to the ancient Mayan Indians of the Yucatan Peninsula. If you Google Creek and Mayan Indians, or some/any combination thereof, you will find some sites that contain this information.
Good Luck,
Otis Fuller

CREEK/CRICK Family History

KathyRoberts54 — 2012-12-31 18:42:51Z

Norris

It would be helpful to other researchers if you could post some of your family history with regard to the CREEK and CRICK surnames.
A few (full) names, dates and locations, any documentation you have from your own personal research etc., may garner some additional replies.

Kathy Roberts
(Admin Creek (Muskogee) Message Board)

Surnames CREEK , CRICK

KathyRoberts54 — 2012-12-31 05:54:24Z

Otis

Thanks for your interesting info.

I discovered that the surnames CREEK and CRICK were of English origin and can be found in English Parish Records dating back to the 1600s. There were, of course, some spelling variations, but the two names appeared to be quite separate.

Kathy R

Re: Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

KathyRoberts54 — 2012-12-30 15:12:36Z

synima

The name "creek" was bestowed on the Muscogee/Muskogee People by the English, in reference to the region they were residing in. Lots of small streams.

The Creek........Muskogee/Muscogee People have a very well documented history, and I'm sure if you contacted the Creek Nation they would be interested to hear of your story.

Do you have any documented information on your CRICK or CREEK surname ancestors ?
It would be helpful to other researchers if you could post any information you may have from your own personal research.

Kathy Roberts
VA

Re: Looking for information on James T. Butler and Daughter Sallie Louvisa Butler.

LNJ4VR — 2012-12-30 02:51:53Z

I have a picture of Loucinda Elisabeth Butler when she was a young teenager and one of her sisters and it could be Sallie

Re: Looking for information on James T. Butler and Daughter Sallie Louvisa Butler.

seesthru — 2012-12-30 02:29:32Z

Yes. However the daughter was Sallie or Sarah Louvisa Butler.

Did some Creek Indians migrate to any of the Caribbean islands?

synima — 2012-12-28 20:14:58Z

I am attempting a research on any connection between Creek Indians and some Caribbean families. I am told (this has not been substantiated) that some Creek Indians traveled to, among other, Barbados. Upon arrival they gave their last name (family name) as Creek, which was distorted to Crick (perhaps by the way it was pronounced). My interest is that I am a direct descendant of the Crick family, and would very mush like to know if indeed there is a link between my family and the Creek Indians. Any assistance that could be provided in this regard will be greatly appreciated.

Re: Research for Book called Who's who among Southern Indians by Martini

joenanitaromano — 2012-10-02 18:13:45Z

I am researching my ancestry and was wondering if you have anything regarding Mah-wah-ta, "Millie Milton Brown", DOB: 1819-1902. Her husband was John Jerden Goforth DOB: 1819-1931. If you wish, you may email me at: joenanitaromano@gmail.com
Thank you,
Anita Romano

Re: Creek Indians in Bullock County Alabama

DelbraBrown — 2012-09-22 19:30:14Z

I realize they ceded the lands prior to 1840
The difficult issue I have is oratory stories.
My grandmother stated her grandmother Pete Cope
She stated he looked just like the indian actor that played on Outlaw Josie Wales.. His mother was Lucy Bailey and she married a Doctor Marshall Cope around 1871.

The only other name that I have that "Might" be indian is an Ann or Anna Prather. She married Simon Rhodes in Indian Creek are of what is now Bullock County Ala.

My grandmother's mother said her name was
Emma Marlila Lusana Elvona Larsena "Elizabeth" Sasherlee Frances Copes

I believe all of those names are linked to either family members or something like that however, I haven't been able to link these names to anything other grandparent name.

I appologize if this is too scant of information but of course with genealogy you have to come up with a lot of "theories"

What I was hoping for was some insight on families who remained in Pike/Bullock and stated they were indian or part indian and what were those surnames or stories. That would help me to understand what type of information I should look for.

Thanks in advance

Re: Creek Indians in Bullock County Alabama

KathyRoberts54 — 2012-09-22 05:01:03Z

Delbra

Without FULL names and some sort of time frame, it's very difficult to try to assist you.

The Creek Nation had ceded all the lands in the southeast before 1838.

Kathy Roberts
VA

Re: Creek Indians in Bullock County Alabama

DelbraBrown — 2012-09-21 12:51:21Z

My family originated in the Indian Creek area which before that time was Pike County. I have noticed that a small area of Barbour County also became Bullock County which I have Anderson family members from that area. I do realize many Indians left Alabama for Oklahoma or even Canada, but many stayed behind and lived amongst or as African Americans.

Re: Creek Indians in Bullock County Alabama

KathyRoberts54 — 2012-09-21 03:48:12Z

Delbra

Bullock County was created in 1866 from land that had originally been ceded by the Creek Nation in the early 1800s.

It would be helpful to other researchers if you could include full names, dates and if possible the counties they resided in.

Kathy Roberts
VA

Creek Indians in Bullock County Alabama

DelbraBrown — 2012-09-20 01:30:05Z

I believe the surnames Bailey, Rhodes are linked to the Indians that lived in the Indian Creek Area of Pike/Bullock County pre 1860's. I'm not sure if my Anderson line may also have ties as they are Indian Creek/Barbour county line area.

Interested in speaking with anyone who can provide me some insight on Indian heritage for families in this area. Thanks in advance

Re: Searching for Creek Indians with surname Alexander

_Nan_ — 2012-09-19 18:43:10Z

Go here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
If not already filled in, type in Alexander and click on Creek, then click search and the family you enquired about will come up.
Since Liza was 7 at this time, it seems unlikely she would be your great-grandfather's mother...but any thing is possible.

Searching for Creek Indians with surname Alexander

oxiluvyuzxo — 2012-09-19 02:58:27Z

I am trying to find out more information regarding my creek family members.

Liza Alexander (born 1891, female
Nancy Alexander (born 1862), female
Arty Alexander (born 1852), male
Sealy Alexander, female
Tecumseh Alexander, male

I think they are all siblings,but all are of the Lucv (turtle) clan. They were also all full blood.

Liza's son, my great-grandfather was George Bishop (born 25 may 1911, died 2 october 1993)

Re: Caroline WEATHERFORD

jkellam1964 — 2012-09-07 14:35:15Z

Hi, I am Judi Kellam. I also am an ancestor of Caroline and William Weatherford , Sehoy , etc... Esau Kellam [not Killiam]-is my ancestor - From Accomack Co., VA.- He married Caroline Weatherford.

Re: Caroline WEATHERFORD

KathyRoberts54 — 2012-04-30 12:27:47Z

Troy

Caroline WEATHERFORD, her husband Esaw/Esau KILLIAM and their children remained in Alabama. They are found in the US Federal Census and other Federal Records.

How are you related to Caroline ?

Kathy Roberts
VA

Caroline WEATHERFORD

troyfhicks — 2012-04-30 12:18:51Z

hi
im related to caroline weatherford niece of red eagle.
her father was john david weatherford.
from what i have found is that red eagle was 1/2 creek and white.also i cant find them on the final rolls. did they leave indian lands?
didnt know if you had the answers but thought i would ask.
thank you,
troy f hicks

Re: Gano Lee/Cinda Lee

motherOfabs — 2012-04-22 18:09:39Z

Hello Kathy,

If you have information about Gano/Cinda Lee, I would like to have it. They are also my great grandparents.

Thank you,

Julie

Re: Looking for information on James T. Butler and Daughter Sallie Louvisa Butler.

LNJ4VR — 2012-03-24 19:48:47Z

James t butler was my great great grandfather.His daughter Loucinda elisabeth Butler was my great grandmother.Are you still researching this line?

Re: Vallie Smith

copper52003 — 2012-02-24 12:01:49Z

I'm looking for information on my half-sisters and brother. My father was Homer O. Hodge. His first wife was Vallie Smith. They lived in Anniston, Calhoun County, Alabama. They moved to Kansas City, Missouri. They divorced March 29, 1948. They had two daughters Rosie Pearl and Mary Ann. They had sons Homer Burrell, william, Floyd, James, Calvin, Robert and Richard.

I have a tribe and a clan, but no NDN family.

cybrsavag2004 — 2012-02-23 05:19:05Z

I am Tenetke Yvhv. I was so named at the Creek Council in Oklahoma City many years ago with Chief Fife. I was born in Oklahoma City in 1960, and was given over for adoption immediately. I know this must have been hard, but probably a prudent choice. I have been raised by white people with a degree of Creek blood, but I was raised white. But I knew I was indian, but was never really sure what tribe i belonged to. So, I adopted and learned many customs from many tribes. I speak a little Lakota, Comanche, Navajo, very little Creek. When I was 27, my mother helped me get a court order, and I broke into my birth records to prove my lineage and heritage. I made one attempt through the council in OKC to contact my mother discretely, so as to not cause her any shame or embarassment, or shock. I never heard from her. But my friend that knew her said i had almost ten brothers and sisters. I would be the eldest. I am descended from Siah Green and Minnie Washington. I believe I am Wind Clan. I do not wish to disturb my maternal family, as I was raised by very loving folks, and wanted for nothing but brothers and sisters. I am the only child of my parents. So, I am a man of Creek blood, Wind Clan, and not a single known indian relative to wrap my arms around. No one to teach me the ways of the Este Mvskokvlke, Creek Nation. I have a sad heart, but a proud spirit. I am divorced, and my children are grown. In my elder years, I look for brothers or sisters that are interested. Mvto. Cybrsavag2004@yahoo.com

Re: I have a tribe and a clan, but no NDN family.

jessicatabor00 — 2012-02-22 16:30:49Z

please leave your contact info in your message that way members can contact you without paying joining fees.

thanks

Re: Creek Adoption Records?

cybrsavag2004 — 2012-02-07 09:30:52Z

I am an adopted Creek, and I had to break into my birth records with a court order when I was 27 to prove my heritage and rejoin with my tribe. This is no easy task, as these birth records and adoption papers are kept sealed forever, unless a court order is issued.

Re: Creek Indians in Alabama

bmoore544 — 2012-01-15 02:52:33Z

My IV Great Grandmother was Na-ho-Ga Ward. She lived at Hickory Ground Town which was Upper Creek, and was on the 1832 census there.

Re: Steele family

ElizabethMarsden47 — 2012-01-15 00:47:43Z

This family came from Florida and pretty much stayed in Monroe county alabama. Not the same family

Re: Steele family

happyreid — 2012-01-14 22:32:13Z

My grandfather was Mack David Whitley. He was from Russellville, AL. His mother's name was Mary Steele. I believe his mother had about 10 children. He moved to Mississippi with his first wife and four children. I believe her first name was Lula. I do know she is burried at Oakedake cemetary in Brandon, Ms. He later married my grandmother{Ora Bethune} and they raised their children in Brandon, MS. I know he had sibling still living in Russellville, AL in the 1950's. I do not know a lot about his mothert or father. If you have more information pass it on to me.

Re: William Sims + Mary Ann Glisson of Jackson Co FL

Wuzentmee — 2011-12-29 15:33:06Z

Yes!!! This is indeed them!! Thank you so much!
My family will be as thrilled as I am.
I can't thank you enough for this, Kathy!

What a wonderful way to begin my day. lol
Now off to share this with my family.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

William Sims + Mary Ann Glisson of Jackson Co FL

KathyRoberts54 — 2011-12-29 12:04:37Z

Debra

Could this be your family?

1880 Jackson Co FL
Precinct 8
Pg 560A
SIMMS William H 19 w m FL FL -
SIMMS Mary A 19 w f GA GA GA
SIMMS Delila 2 1/12 w f FL
(I believe a copy of the marriage record is available.)

Next door
SIMMS Andrew J 46 w m FL NC GA
SIMMS Mary J 37 w f GA SC GA
SIMMS Andrew J 10 w m FL
SIMMS Lauradale 1 w f FL

Also nearby. Pg 563D
GLISSON Joseph 55 w m GA GA GA
GLISSON William P 14 w m FL
GLISSON Brinkley 12 w m FL
GLISSON Jennie 10 w f FL
GLISSON Nancy 5 w f FL

1870 Wakulla Co FL
Crawfordville
Pg 753A
GLISSON Joseph 40 w m GA
GLISSON Martha 30 w f GA
GLISSON Mary A 9 w f FL
GLISSON William 7 w m FL
GLISSON Amanda 4 w f FL
GLISSON Brinkley 2 w m FL
GLISSON Jennie 3/12 w f FL

Joseph GLISSON married Martha BAULDREE July 5 1857 Gadsden Co FL. A copy of the marriage record may be available.

As these people were free white citizens of the US, you won't find them listed in Creek/Indian records.

The GLISSON and SIMS/SIMMS surname boards, as well as the Jackson Co FL board may offer more information.

Kathy Roberts
VA

Re: Creeks surname Sims

Wuzentmee — 2011-12-22 01:39:28Z

Hi Kathy,
I'm afraid I have very little to go on but here it is:
Jackson County, Florida

William H. Sims b. about 1860 married Mary Ann Glisson
on 29 March 1879.

Children:

Amanda
Jim
Henry
William

Re: Creeks surname Sims

KathyRoberts54 — 2011-12-22 01:19:23Z

Debra

There are various records/rolls pertaining to the Creek People, so it would be really helpful if you could include specific information, such as full names, dates, locations.
It's important to know where your ancestors were located and when.

Kathy Roberts
VA

Creeks surname Sims

Wuzentmee — 2011-12-21 19:06:55Z

I'm looking for "Sims" on the Muskogee (Creek) Rolls.
Any information will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks and God bless,
Debra

Re: Stewart Creeks from Alabama

bandit7 — 2011-12-07 20:39:54Z

I saw your post stating that you know that Caroline Stewart and Simon Hadley's children were listed on the Cherekee Rolls. Do you know their Cherekee Roll number? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sherie

Re: Creek Indians in Alabama

wglen51 — 2011-11-06 02:31:34Z

My ancestery is the Berryhill family. 3great grandfather was William Berryhill.

Re: Francis Ann HAYS Dt/o John HAYS + Basheba MORPHUS of Alabama

booshae — 2011-08-10 02:03:36Z

Hi Christa,
My name is Alice and I come in on Francis Ann Hays side and Basheba is my 4th grate grandmother I would like any kind of help I have been working on my family tree for a few years now but I am kind of stuck on Basheba.

Creek Indian research

lancehall — 2011-07-13 00:51:58Z

Hello Creek cousins and fellow genealogists. I have a website with transcribed records and links:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texlance/m...

Happy hunting,

Lance Hall

[Outdated link updated July 2011]

Re: ELIZABETH-ISAPHENA HAWK B., ABT.1825-KY?

ellapope — 2011-05-27 09:52:38Z

Hello,
I am Jeannie Pippett-Tunstill. I am doing the family tree for my children and would love any information you have. I am Married to Jaime Austin Tunstill, His father is James Tunstill Born June 20, 1929 To Fannie L Lawrence and William L Tunstill, Williams parents were Edward Tunstill and Fannie Woodall, and Edwards parents are James Tunstill and Isaphena Eliza Hawk.
I am happy to share what information I have with who ever would like it. My father-in-law James Tunstill is still alive.

Re: Francis Marion NOBLES + Elizabeth BIRD Santa Rosa FL

carolynbozeman — 2011-04-21 04:32:58Z

She is Creek she Married Frances Nobles had a daughternamed Ruth Jane That married Benjamin Jerry Bully Stedham Son of Of Victor Stedham and Mary Virgina Mc Ghee

Re: Red Sticks at Fort Mims 1813

carolynbozeman — 2011-04-21 04:14:19Z

The Stedham's all but Jessie and ed died at fort Mims