Apache (Arizona) - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Apache-Tarahumara Chihuahua Mx.

sunracer2 — 2013-04-01 02:34:05Z

check the web link:

http://www.canyonsworldwide.org/Tarahamara/TarahamaraRacingT...

it has the Apache Tarahumara link you want...

Re: migration of 1800s of Chihuahua,Mexico South Calif.

d_easter80 — 2013-01-26 00:37:35Z

My mother told me a few years ago that my paternal grandmother was a Tarahumara Indian. Paternal g/father was a Swiss descent male who broke away from his Amish family to marry her.
Am I related to the Apaches through that grandmother?
Please comment, anyone.

Re: tracing apache roots

mebateman1 — 2013-01-18 17:04:17Z

Might this be your family:

SS Death index
Paul Neria b. 23Jul1921 d. Jan1982 Dallas Dallas TX

Here is a tree on rootsweb.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...

•Name: SAN APOLINAR PAUL NERIA
•Given Name: SAN APOLINAR PAUL
•Surname: NERIA
•Sex: M
•Birth: 23 Jul 1921 in VENUS, TEXAS
•Death: 12 Jan 1982 in DALLAS, TEXAS
•Note:
Cause of Death: CARDIAC ARREST
Custom Field:<_FA#> 23 Apr 1942ENTERED MILITARY SVC W/ ARMY
Custom Field:<_FA#> 5 Sep 1942DEPART U.S.
Custom Field:<_FA#> 11 Sep 1942ARRIVE EAME
Custom Field:<_FA#> BATTLES: TUNISIA. NAPLES FOGGIA. ROME-ARNO, PO VALLEY,
Custom Field:<_FA#> NORTH APENNINES,
Custom Field:<_FA#> OCCUPATION: MACHINE GUNNER, HEAVY
Custom Field:<_FA#> 8 Jun 1944WOUNDED EAME
Custom Field:<_FA#> 29 Jun 1944WOUNDED
Custom Field:<_FA#> 1 Dec 1944EAMA CAMPAIN MEDAL / 5 BRONZES, GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL,
Custom Field:<_FA#> PURPLE HEART W/ 2 OAK LEAF CLUSTERS.
Custom Field:<_FA#> 20 Apr 1945WOUNDED
Custom Field:<_FA#> 16 Aug 1945DEPART EAME
Custom Field:<_FA#> 25 Aug 1945ARRIVE U.S.
Address: 1520 N. HASKELL AVE.

DALLAS
TEXAS

PAUL WAS BAPTIZED AT THE CATHEDRAL ON ROSS AVE SEPT 23, 1921 AND HIS
SPONSORS WERE LUIS YBARRA AND PETRA SIFUNTES. UNCLE PAUL WAS A HERO AND A
VERY GOOD MAN. HIS WIFE MARY GAVE HIM A HARD TIME TILL THE END. IN THE
MID-LATE 70'S HE REMARRIED A WOMEN NAMED SUNNY THAT WAS VERY GOOD TO HIM.

Ancestry Hints for SAN APOLINAR PAUL NERIA

5 possible matches found on Ancestry.com

Father: FELIPE NERIA b: in MEXICO
Mother: HILARIA BUSTAMANTE b: in MEXICO

Marriage 1 MARY VIRGINIA GELLER b: 6 Oct 1923 in DALLAS, TEXAS •Married: in DALLAS, TEXAS
Children 1. Living NERIA
2. Living JR.
3. Living NERIA
4. Living NERIA
5. Living NERIA
6. Living NERIA
7. Living NERIA
8. Living NERIA
9. Living NERIA

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http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/n/e/r/I-Neria/ind...

Felipe Neria of Palermo, Sicily
Updated July 4, 2001

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Woring on family Tree for Felipe Neria Palermo Sicily. Do not know what year he came to U.S. Married Hilaria Bustamante. They had Alejos, Cleto, Benito, Jesse, San Apolinar (Paul) Neria.
Trying to locae daughter of Robert son of Cleto. Madaline Virginia and Lou Karen. Heard they were using name of Sweney. They went to college in Oklahoma. Grandmother was Valentina who lived in OK. I heard they maybe in Tenn.. Their father and aunt were the onle survivers of huse fire. Roberts others siblings were Alice who I have found. Children that died in fire were: Jose, Dolores,Cecilia, and FelipeII. 98% of family is in Dallas, Texas. All Uncles have already passed. We do not know if Grandfather or Grandmother had brother r sisters.

Re: Looking for proof of grandfather being Apache

mdruelas — 2013-01-18 00:17:46Z

Yes I do and I did see that and he is on there but it does not say anything about him being apache

Re: grandmother

rustyredtaz — 2012-10-26 23:40:40Z

I just your post and just by chance I ran a search on my Grandpy Ramon Castro Angulo and my Nana Rose Torres and seen your post. Here is my email rustyredtaz@aol.com. I am Richard's daughter.

Re: Researching White Mountain Apache Heritage...

allison4287 — 2012-08-13 00:29:37Z

I would love to try and help you out--Researching tribal heritage is an interest of mine. Can you provide more information about anyone in your family? Even grandparents, parents, where they were born, etc.

Researching White Mountain Apache Heritage...

jmill717 — 2012-08-07 18:29:12Z

My father recently gave me some information, not much mind you, regarding my great-great grandmother, who was a White Mountain Apache. The only thing I know is that she married a white settler, and died in childbirth with her daughter, my Great-grandmother Josephine. I believe her last name would've been Smith, who later married into the Danskin family. Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated, whether it be who she married, what her name was, when/where she was born and raised! Thanks so much!

tracing apache roots

kayasmusicbox — 2012-05-26 21:30:27Z

Only information-Greatfather -Paul Neria-is an Apache from Texas-married Mary-(Don't know her maiden name

Re: reyes pacheco

marispotswood — 2012-04-06 22:44:21Z

Hi Jackie, thanks for writing!! Did you see the family tree I had posted? That gives a lot of info for Reyes. Am interested in what info you have. Thank you for writing, mari

reyes pacheco

jakieflorae — 2012-04-06 05:01:24Z

Hello,
My name is Jackie Flores. I stumbled upon your comments on Reyes Pacheco. I am currently researching my family history as well and I am Maria Elenora Pacheco's 3rd great granddaughter. Elenora had two daughters Reyes and Ursula. Ursula is my 2nd great granddaughter. I am VERY interested in exchanging information on our families. Please contact me.
Jackie
jackie_lynn21@yahoo.com

Finding greatgrandparents

tsncrk123 — 2011-11-25 21:09:23Z

About ten years ago I was told of a story about my family, it was said that my grandmother was half Apache, her mother was full blooded and her father was not. This was never spoken of because of the time period it took place.
All I know is she is from the white mountain Apache clan and her name was Ivanetta, she married a white man by the name or earl smith, she died giving birth to my grandmother.
I am unsure of the dates. I would like to dig deeper and find my roots. can anyone help me?

Bertha KLINE KO LE/KAUDLEKAULE

KathyRoberts54 — 2011-06-07 18:48:48Z

mesapach88

Bertha KAUDLEKAULE is listed on SSDI.
You can get a copy of her original application from the following site : http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

US Indian Census Rolls 1885-1945 also provide some valuable information relating to these families.

Have you contacted the particular Tribe/Nation to find out what the enrolment criteria is ?
Usually, one is required to provide a fully documented history showing a connection to an enrolled ancestor.

Kathy Roberts
(VA)

need help locating info

mesapche88 — 2011-06-05 02:36:14Z

I am tryn to get my son on the mescalero roll but he's not enough mescalero with just me I've been told his dads great or great great grandma was mescalero I have two names to work with but haven't been successful with them maybe someone out there knows if they were on the roll n maybe how much mescalero blood they were DAISY JOICE KAUDLEKAULE and BERTHA KLINEKOLE if ne one gas ne info I would greatly appreciate it email me at mesapche88@yahoo.com

Re: Native American Records? Cochise-Geronimo

LisaCrawford77 — 2011-04-01 04:33:20Z

Tim Hoskins b. 1919 son of Nancy Collett-Hoskins and Lloyd Hoskins.

Lloyd is the son of Zachariah Hoskins and Minerva Naiper

Nancy is the Daughter of John R. Collett and Janetta Reid-Collett

Nancy is the lady everyone thought was indian decent. -- there is no information on Janetta Reid that i can find.

Any help would be awesome

Re: Native American Records? Cochise-Geronimo

nowisthetime2009 — 2011-02-12 05:43:24Z

If you list names of your relatives, we can try to help.
Footnote is excellent, as well as Arizona's digital records.

Re: Trying to find out if I'm Apache or Mexican

nowisthetime2009 — 2011-02-12 05:16:42Z

Here's another one for you...
http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/083/10832263.pdf

Re: Trying to find out if I'm Apache or Mexican

nowisthetime2009 — 2011-02-12 05:13:02Z

http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/055/10551619.pdf
This Death Certificate shows Hinton as being WHITE -----
But definitely born in Alabama, but living in GLOBE at the time of his death.
If you'd like to PM me, send me PM and I can help with more

Apache ties.

Jasonmendibles — 2010-12-15 15:33:38Z

Great grandfather Abraham abran Mendibles Sr. born Feb 22 1889 I believe in Maricopa or Yavapai. Married to Cruzita Chi-Chi Carmelo born in Gila Dec 27 1907. They had 6 childen Abraham jr, Jess chuyeto(my grandfather) born in Hayden raised on a reservation, unknown, Isabel chavela, Joe army Joe, Vevie and Stella. I'm trying to find out which res was my great grandfather was from. His father was Jesus Mendibles of old Mexico, birth date unknown I do know he was struck by lighting and died in 1891. He was married to Isabele Vidal/Bedal she was born on Jul 20 1866. Any info would help thanks- Jason.

Re: Native American Records? Cochise-Geronimo

11944 — 2010-08-25 22:09:49Z

How much research have you done on on the Uncle?

The indian census rolls are prt of record group 75, records of the bureau of indian affairs 1793-1989 at the national archives

free download
http://www.archives.gov/research/microfilm/m595.pdf
families are grouped together/
there are ndia census for 1940/1944 and later to 1950

ancestry.com
collection;
U. S. indian census schedules, 1885-1940
search by name,tribal names

also footnote.com
only 14% done in 2009
70,000 images
also; Ratified Indian Treaties
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http:www.cyndislist.com/native.htm
native american genealogical resources
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http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/index.html
library of congress/maps indian territory
-----
Good luck in your search

Native American Records? Cochise-Geronimo

LisaCrawford77 — 2010-08-25 05:57:49Z

My fathers late uncle - told a story that we were related to some native americans.. well known ones-- The story is that we are Grandchildren of Apache Cochise. And also that Geronimo is an uncle.

Unfortunatly for me - Geronimo had between 6-9 wives... Tryin to find American indians with ancestry has been extremily hard for me...

Does anyone have any hints/sites or places for me to search?
I appreciate your help. Thank you in advance :)

Re: Ybarra search

belindadavis126 — 2010-07-06 13:36:04Z

I have found that my native blood line actually came from my grandmother (Salazar) and not my grandfather (Ybarra), at least the family isn't aware of the native ties. My grandfather was part Basque, though.
Good luck, don't give up. I found my father after a 32 year search.

Re: Ybarra search

bbtazdg07 — 2010-07-06 05:19:04Z

I am also looking for Ybarra's ancestry. My Great Grandfather is Miguel Ybarra of Dos Cabezas, AZ. I did find a family tree its at tribalpages.com. If anybody could help find out if we are Chiricahua that would be awesome. Thanks!!!

Paternal Apache Heritage

jegutz — 2010-06-01 09:04:39Z

This isn't specific to Arizona, as I'm actually attempting to search for paternal Apache heritage ancestral to Chihuahua, most likely from the Nednhi (southern Chiricahua).

My paternal family are just run-of-the-mill mestizos without Indian cultural background, so it's been difficult for me to determine exactly what my heritage is. My grandfather's name is Salvador Gutierrez, and my grandmother's name Celia Grajeda. I've been told that our heritage is Tarahumara because my great-grandparents were from the Sierra Madre, but I can't be sure. If I satisfied Chiricahua blood quantum standards and possessed enrollment data for an ancestor (which I concede is unlikely), I'd be eligible for enrollment in the Mescalero tribe, since they absorbed the Chiricahua, correct?

Looking for Info on Great and Great-Great Grandfathers

pingito64 — 2010-03-28 23:18:27Z

I'm told my Great and Great-Great Grandfathers are from the San Carlos Reservation. However, I have only spotted them in New Mexico through Ancestry.com. My Great-Great Grandfather was Ruperto Martinez (approx. 1850), My Great Grandfather was Donaciano Martinez (approx. 1875)and his wife was Genoveva Martinez. I am trying to trace my heritage as far back as possible and document my Apache bloodline. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Eli Martinez

Re: Apache heritage

ladufour — 2010-02-12 07:29:31Z

Hi, debradona!
I would very much like to see your pictures and music. My e-mail is:ladufour@hotmail.com
Thanks!

Re: Apache heritage

debradona — 2010-02-11 19:33:28Z

I have pictures on my youngest daughters ceremony and music I could share with you. My oldest daughter's grandpa is actually a Medicine Man on the reservation.

Re: Trying to find out if I'm Apache or Mexican

jaytrehsmama — 2010-02-03 10:15:11Z

San carlos Apache Rez. is near Globe.

Re: Trying to find out if I'm Apache or Mexican

Brightstarr10 — 2009-12-15 09:07:03Z

Hi Larry, I did find census,s that list Ynez Sanchez as mexican, and also white.I could not find any records that list your Thomas family as indian. I was not able to find records for Elsie Wilson. I found 2 Hinson Thomas listed, a father and son. There were many indian Thomas living in the Res. but I did not connect them to your Thomas family. This website has many records of your family. Both Hinson Thomas, Maria Ynez Sanchez Thomas, listing her parents as Joseph Sanchez and Terresa Ayola. Charles L. Thomas, Emerline Thomas, Ida Roca(Thomas) O'Neil, Emmeline Thomas Washickek, and Margaret Harding, all in Arizona. Hope this helps. Bryghtstar

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

This is about Hinson Thomas.
http://www.uair.arizona.edu/objectviewer?o=uadc%3A%2F%2Fazu_...

The Globe Cemetery
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azgila/cemt.htm

Hinson Thomas, some Wilsons,and Warren
http://www.archive.org/stream/arizonaprehistor02mcclrich/ari...

Hinson Thomas tidbits
http://files.usgwarchives.org/az/statewide/newspapers/1894ne...

http://arizonagravestones.org/view.php?id=37379

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azgila/resource.htm

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:1UsV8jpEcAkJ:www.uair.ar...

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/jo-conners/whos-who-in...

http://files.usgwarchives.org/az/pinal/vitals/marriages/brid...

Death cert. For Hinson Thomas
http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/083/10832263.pdf

Hinson Thomas (father) D. Cert.
http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/055/10551619.pdf

Mrs. Ynez Sanchez Thomas
http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/212/2220.pdf

Re: Trying to find out if I'm Apache or Mexican

larrycockrell74 — 2009-12-13 16:31:22Z

Thanks for the reply. Ok, I was always told that I was Apache. It was never said that we were mexican. My grandmothers name is Carolyn Dawn Thomas, her mother is Elsie Wilson,her father is Charles Louis Thomas, his father Hinson Thomas and Charles mother is Inez Sanchez shes listed as mexican. Inez Sanchez is from Arizona. They lived in Globe city. I was always told that I had apache relatives in Arizona. On my grandmothers birth certificate her father(charles) is listed as indian and her mother Elsie is listed as french indian. Elsie is from Missouri.
I was remembering a conversation with my dad before he passed away and he told me that my grandmother had sometimes said she was mexican to avoid prosection. Maybe it was her whole side of the family? thanks.

Re: Trying to find out if I'm Apache or Mexican

Brightstarr10 — 2009-12-13 11:49:38Z

Hi Larry, First, What was your grandmothers, and her father and mother,s name? Do you have dates of birth and death for any of them? Where were they born, and where are they buried? You state that you found her father listed as having a Mexican mother, but who was the father, and what does it list him as? He could have been Apache. Also, it could be another tribe, as, there were many tribes in Arizona. If you will post what is on the death cert. it will be a great help. Good luck. Bryghtstar

Trying to find out if I'm Apache or Mexican

larrycockrell74 — 2009-12-09 10:44:54Z

Growing up I was always told that I Apache on my grandmothers side. On her birth certificate it lists her father as being indian. I found her father on here and it says that his mother is mexican, her name was Inez Sanchez. They were from Globe City Arizona in about the 1880s.
Any help would be appreciated. All my family on her side has passed away, so I don't have anyone to ask. Thanks.

Help with Jicarilla Apache name/word

larcoa5741 — 2009-11-05 14:04:02Z

Per an 1849 journal(later published as a book), I have learned that the word "CONE" is from Jicarilla Apache; however that source did not bother to give the English translation. Could anyone help me with this??? I know that the Jicarilla are not AZ based, however, I have had no luck in getting any linguist, university professor, or tribal source to give me an opinion.
I am asking this as my Ggrandmother was "Ada or Ader" CONE, who, per several oral, family traditions was born in NM on an Indian reservation c. 1874 and was later orphaned c. 1883 and taken by missionaries who later turned her over to a Presbyterian minister in TX. I won't bore anyone with the details, but she always gave CONE as her last name, and I suspect that her first name Ada or "Ader" was an anglicized version of "Ih-tedda". I would greatly appreciate any and all help on this one.
Regards,
Larry Coats

casuga, cachuca adoption, 1862, 1870

treesf1 — 2009-10-15 22:05:49Z

My Grandfather's Father was adopted by a Irish family named Carey . His name is listed on a 1910 Census as Casuga. He later used the name Carey. Any info on an adoption in the mid to late 1800 would be greatly appreciated

tracing the "ghosts" of Vaca or Baca name....

likeskj — 2009-08-16 02:54:37Z

My great grandparents Francisco and Natalia Vaca dropped their children (Mary Vaca - my grandmother) -and her sister off at a Marks family home in Lorain, Ohio and then just disappeared. No marriage, death or birth certificates that I can find. My question is....Has anyone heard of the Vaca or Baca name in the Navajo tribe? Any information would be welcomed. Thank you! Kim likeskj@bgsu.edu
my time on here is almost up so e-mail would probably be best.

Re: cochise, apache rose

nataliehowellnattyo — 2009-07-23 03:04:29Z

my name is michael kelley..i am related to apache rose...i saw ur thread and am interested to know if you have found any information on your thread...ant info you could share would be greatly appercieated...thank you ...hope to here from you soon...
mike kelley...care of nataliehpowella2yahoo.com

Re: Ancestry help...

ConfusedApache — 2009-06-23 05:36:46Z

I am a 15 year old boy.I was told several years ago my father John Robert Fillmore Jr. was part Apache Indian and i want to find my roots on his side.From what I understand(not to sure tho) it descended from my grandfather John Robert Fillmore. If you could please help me I would really appreciate it.I would like to pass on my history on to my children one day.

Ancestry help...

wantabeefcake — 2009-06-14 18:42:13Z

Hello. My father was part Apache Indian. His mother's side is where we get the Apache from. I don't know where or how to get information for her side of the family. Her father (my Great Grandfather) was a full blood Apache Indian...with the last name Flowers (was changed to Fowler to fit in with the American life). I don't know what branch of Apache where we descend from. I know his name was Charles Henry Fowler. From him, I don't know names backwards. I would love to be able to complete his side of the family so I can pass the Apache heritage on to my son. If anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. I don't even know if this is the right place to post this...as I said before, I don't know what branch or where they are from. Thank you for any help you can give me or any information you can offer to help me in this quest.

Re: Looking For Phillips

Skyewoolf — 2009-05-22 17:32:21Z

This is an update to my previous post. I have discovered my grandfather, Peter Phillips, may have been born in the Stronghold where Cochiese's band dwelled. I would appreciate any information on finding birth records from the Stronghold, this search has been going on for too many years.

Re: Apache Leaders

bravenative2002 — 2009-03-04 01:09:03Z

the apache chief juan he was long forgot in the apache history I dont believe anybody would keep a record so old, nobody know would know him now, since the 1820's, thats way to old?

Reestablishing Apache tribal ties

ca082880 — 2009-02-18 03:40:18Z

My mother's side is of British/French origin but my father's side of the family is 75% Chiracahua Apache and 25% Navajo. Unfortunatly, many of my Apache/Navajo ancestors had both Apache/Navajo names and Spanish names they went by. Although I am still currently making a great effort to find them on tribal roles, I am starting to consider the possibility that it may be impossible. (lack of complete records, spanish language barriers, etc.) My great grandmother was from Colorado (Navajo) and the rest of my Apache family seems to have origins scattered around the southwest as far south as Mexico. Regardless, I have been studying Apache and Navajo history, culture, lifestyle for quite awhile now.

Even if I cannot provide such hard evidence, I would like to reestablish Apache tribal ties. I hope someone could help guide me as to how to do so. A bit of background about me:

I grew up in a community with many immigrants who could only speak English and only knew American culture...yet they always identified themselves as being Chinese, Korea, Japanese, etc. though they had never even been to their "mother countries." Here in Japan, when people ask me what ethicity I am, I usually refer to myself as mixed...American of Euopean decent and Real American. I feel I'm quite in the same boat as the immigrant children I knew growing up. I always felt like If I was one of them, I would want to spend a few years learning the traditional language and customs of their mother country. Before speaking with my own family about our history, I earned a scholarship to study abroad here in Japan. I learned the language, the culture, and have quite a bit of respect for everything here. After returning back to the U.S., I spent quite a bit of time with my Apache/Navajo side of the family. That's when I started studying the history and cultures of the two tribes. After completing my degree, I headed back to Japan for work but continued to study everything Apache/Navajo I could get my hands on. Without going too far off on a different topic, I was actually shocked to learn how similar the Apache/Navajo mindset is, some of the traditional beliefs are and how close some of the language is. (not all, but some is almost the same!)

Back to the point of this thread, I would like to reestablish Apache tribal ties and would like any help/guidance possible. My interest is more than just having Apache blood. When I marry, I would like to do so in Apache tradition. When I have children, I want them to be proud of their heritage and know more about it than I did when I was young. If I have a daughter, I would like her to have a sunrise ceremony. If I establish a family here in Japan, I would try to establish an exchange program for Apache children to come and see how the Japanese have kept their traditions alive and well with modern thinking and technology. I would love for Japanese children to see and learn about Apache culture and lifestyle. Maybe these sound just like dreams but I don't believe them to be too unrealistic.

Thank you for reading!
Any help you can provide would be truly appriciated!

RJ

trying to trace the Mejia Family line

martinrmejia — 2008-12-08 08:03:04Z

I'm trying to trace my fathers side of the family back a little further than just my dad. My grandfathers name is Philip Mejia and im not too sure but i believe he had a brother that was separated at an infant age and may be named Miguel Aceves Mejia. To the best of my Knowledge he lived in Arizona most of his life, i believe part of the time he spent in or near Clifton Arizona.

Re: Apache heritage

APACHEWE7 — 2008-11-24 05:40:58Z

Hi, I am Kathy Martinez, my grandmother was raise in white mt.I am hoping you know anthing about my grandmother family.In 1860 to 1910. Her name is flora,florencia , florence. She grew up learning to deliver babies and taking care of the sick. I know somebody knows her. I would like to meet some my family. Her dad was toribio,or choribio. my father is E. martinez I not sure about last name .She said ,they had lots of last names . In 1940 She had different last name. My ma,sister and myself had our dna done . We are native american indian. We are a mix of indian blood. my grandparents antonio and wife maria.

Re: Apache heritage

APACHEWE7 — 2008-11-24 05:37:37Z

looking for info about my heritage

Jesus222 — 2008-11-20 04:02:48Z

I was told my great grandmother YlDifonsa Castillo Martinez was possibly registerd w/Mascalero Apache.She married Consepcion Jaso Juarez and I believe they lived in Carlsbad New Mexico.Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you...

Re: Apache-Tarahumara Chihuahua Mx.

APACHEWE7 — 2008-08-12 04:38:42Z

Hi Iam Kathy Martinez , please call me at 6194087411 if you are related I would like know who you are.Or e-mail me please at apachewe7@aol.com I do have more information. If you have some information we could combine what know about the family

Re: Looking for Lucero Family members

mebateman1 — 2008-07-08 07:14:50Z

SS Death Index
Marcos Lucero b. 21 Dec 1909 d. Sep 1981 Phoenix Maricopa AZ

if that is his SS info this might be him:

1910 NM Sandoval Co LaBajada as of May 6, 1910
Lucero Secario head 22 married once 2yrs NM NM NM railroad
Lucero Elfina g wife 21 married once 2yrs 2 born 2 living NM NM NM
Lucero Ceripranio son 2 NM NM NM
Lucero Marcos son 5/12 NM NM NM

Re: Was my Grandfather Simon Urbina an Apache Indian orphan?

mebateman1 — 2008-07-08 07:03:26Z

Have you requested a copy of his death record?

IL Death Index
Urbina Simon d. 1929-02-23 Cook co Chicago cert#6006418

http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/IDPHDeathSearchServlet

I could not find a son or Maria IN 1930 IL Cook Co

Re: Looking for proof of grandfather being Apache

mebateman1 — 2008-07-02 18:40:24Z

Do you have a birthdate? What were his children's names as well as his wife?
There are 3 Emilio Aragon's in the 1930 NM census.
There are 5 Emilio Chavez's in teh 1930 NM census.

Re: reyes pacheco

mebateman1 — 2008-07-02 18:36:25Z

1930 AZ Navajo Co Winslow
this family listed as mex=mexican
Sanchez Abram head 42 married at 32 MEX MEX MEX speaks Spanish immigrated in 1902 laborer construction
Sanchez Reyes wife 32 married at 22 NM NM NM
Sanchez Eloe son 9 NM
Sanchez Cristobal son 8 NM
Sanchez Della dau 5 NM
Sanchez Teresa dau 2 8/12 AZ
Sanchez Demaso son 1 2/12 NM

1910 NM Guadalupe Co Fort Sumner
this family listed as w=white
Pacheco Leonor head 59 widow 14 born 4 living NM NM NM speaks spanish no occupation
Pacheco Reyes dau 14 s NM NM NM speaks english

not sure if this is correct family?
1900 NM Guadalupe Anton chico lower
Pacheco Teodora head Nov 1850 50 Divorced NM NM NM laundress
Pacheco Diufori? dau Dec 1869 38 NM
Pacheco Lazoar son Dec 1871 29 NM
Pacheco Ignes dau May 1881 19 NM
Pacheco Manuel son May 1886 14 NM
Pacheco Mar? dau Oct 1893 6 NM (very hard to read rest of page)

1880 NM San Miguel Co Fort Sumner
this family listed as w=white
Pacheco Juan N 33 NM NM NM
Pacheco Leonor 24 wife NM NM NM
Pacheco Ursula 8 dau
Pacheco Calistro 5 son
Pacheco J Cenon 4 son
Pacheco J Morica? 2 son

You said you have her SS#. If you request her application it will list her parents' names. You print off a ss-5 letter from rootsweb.com and costs $27. Let me know if you want to do this and don't know how.

This is all I seem able to find. I hope this is helpful. This is not my family.

Re: Apache Leaders

sakarii01 — 2008-06-15 04:14:46Z

My great grandmother's name was Petra Pantoja and when she died her last name was Lucio that I know of. When she went into hiding in Mexico she stayed there til her death in 1965. My grandfather Luz Lucio came to the U.S when he was a teenager. Luz was married twice and he has 19 children.
My great grandmother Petra's husband was named Philmone Lucio and He died way before 1965.