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Petra Marie Berg

Petra Marie Berg

Jeanie Goff (View posts)
Posted: 19 Sep 2006 12:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 Jan 2007 10:42PM GMT
Surnames: Berg, Gronseth,
I am looking for the grave of my great grandmother Petra Marie Berg born 18 April 1842 in Brevik Norway. Immigrated to Chicago in 1890.
She died 30 June 1915 while visiting one of her sons in Superior Wisconsin. Her remains were 'removed' to chicago for burial on 1 July 1915. At the time of death she was living in chicago.
in the 1910 census for Cook County she was living with her son Martin T. Berg on Kimball Ave Chicago.
She also had a nephew named Einar Gronseth.
Does anyone have access to obit's, city directories or grave finding. Also of interest is the neighborhood that Kimball ave is located. Is this a Norwegian settlement. Is there a Norwegian Lutheran Church in the area?
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
Thank You
Jeanie Goff
Port Angeles, Wa
widowgof@olypen.com

Re: Petra Marie Berg

Posted: 19 Sep 2006 7:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Olsen--Strand--Andersen-Hanson
Hi Jeanie,

I looked at the Chicago Tribune Archive & could find nothing for that name or any combination. Here is a link to Lutheran churches in Chicago. http://www.elca.org/archives/chicagochurches/chicago.html I’m not familiar with the address of Kimball St, but I’m sure someone on the list will know where Kimball St is or was.

Re: Petra Marie Berg

Robert Helfer (View posts)
Posted: 20 Sep 2006 3:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 Jan 2007 10:43PM GMT
Surnames: Berg
Jeanie --

Kimball Ave. is a rather long north/south street that runs pretty much the length of the city. It goes through a number of neighborhoods, some of which had Norwegian settlements around 1915. It runs 3 blocks west of Humboldt Park, the center of a number of Norwegian events and settlement in the early to mid 1900s. It also runs just west of Logan Square, center of another Norwegian settlement of the early 1900s.

Do you have the actual street address for Martin Berg?

Robert

Re: Petra Marie Berg

Ralph from Chicago (View posts)
Posted: 20 Sep 2006 4:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
You did not state how much research you had done on other family members, but here summarized is the 1910 census entry you found. Along with the 1900 census entry (listing her other children) and Martin's 1920 census entry (listing his wife and sons).

To keep these entries short, I will post several in answer to your questions, and also send long files off-list.

1910 census (3 people living in household):
BERG MARTIN T 29 M W NORW IL COOK 27-WD CHICAGOSeries: T624 Roll: 270 Page: 238 A
2250 Kimball ** NOTE: this is post 1909 address and street, so building may still exist and photo may be on Cook County Assessor's website!
Head: Martin T, 29, single, Norw, Electrician–Installing telephones, emig 1888
Mother: Petra M, 69, widowed, Norw, emig 1888; mother of 14/4 living
Cousin: Einar G. Gronseth, 23, Norw, Clerk – Post Office, emig 1892

1900 Census (don't know if you had this already)
BERG PETER M 58 M W NORW IL COOK 15-WD CHICAGO
(NOTE: transcription error - entry is Petra M Berg, Female)
Series: T623 Roll: 265 Page: 282 A
395 W Fullerton **NOTE: This is a pre-1909 street number so address number MUST be converted to post 1909 value (using website from Chicago Historical Society/Chicago History Museum); Fullerton is a major East-West street and retained its name!
Head: BERG Petra M, female, Widowed, Apr 1842, 58, Norway, emig 1890, mother 14/6 living
Son: Berg Peter M, male, Single, Nov 1868, 31, Norway, emig 1889, Na, Machinist
Son: Berg Einar, male, Single, Jan 1879, 21, Norway, emig 1889, Al, Inspector – Wood
Son: Berg Martin, male, Single, Jan 1881, 19, Norway, emig 1890, Al, Machinist (Harvestor Co)
*** Note: Harvestor Co was probably International Harvestor (successor co: Navistar), a major employer in Chicago in the 1900s - my grandfather worked there 49 years!
Dau: Berg Marie, female, Single, June 1883, 16, Norway, emig 1890, Al, --
Nephew: Gronseth Einar, male, Single, March 1887, 13, Norway, emig 1892, Al, Student

1920 Census - only found son Martin (so far):
BERG MARTEN 39 M W NORW IL COOK 33-WD CHICAGO
Series: T625 Roll: 352 Page: 179 B
2208 Keystone ** This street and number should also exist on modern maps
Martin – a telephone tester
Elsie, wife
Howard, son
Eugene, son

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We can assume that Petra was either a widow when she emigrated with children (or joined children already in Chicago). Or her husband died between 1888-1900 (do you have a name?)!

Also have you located the Digitalarkivet records for emigration or 1865 census for the family, or Petra premarried?

Re: Petra Marie Berg - locations

Ralph from Chicago (View posts)
Posted: 20 Sep 2006 5:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 Jan 2007 10:44PM GMT
Surnames: Berg
In answer to some of your questions:

1) Does anyone have access to obit's, city directories or grave finding?
Since city directory searches are time consuming microfilm scrollings, I do not do them. However if you are willing to pay a few dollars, you can try this resource:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcook/Lookups/lookupcitydir.htm - and give limitations on the number of pages you are willing to pay, as well as a year range, and give both first and last names of all people sought.

2) Also of interest is the neighborhood that Kimball ave is located. Is this a Norwegian settlement. Is there a Norwegian Lutheran Church in the area?
2250 Kimball Ave 1600-3200 NORTH ( a North-south street)

To convert Street name changes (1900 census), use:
http://www.chsmedia.org/househistory/nameChanges/start.pdf
To convert pre-1909 street addresses into current addresses, use:
http://www.chsmedia.org/househistory/nameChanges/start.pdf

To view the 2250 N Kimball Ave address, use this:
http://www.newschicago.org/ and select “Single Building”, “Chicago”, - this link shows a ariel photo of the property. (Click “Map of Property” and you can see the lot in relation to nearby streets, and by un-zooming you can spot it relative to major streets (Kedzie, Fullerton, ...).
(NOTE: Fullerton is an east-west street just 2 blocks north of the Kimball address, so they may not have moved far between 1900 and 1910 censuses.)
OR http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/filings/searchflat//search... enter address range and you will get a page that displays data regarding the building, with a link to a photo

The building at 2250 N Kimball Ave is a 2-flat in the Jefferson township area, in the Logan Square neighborhood, formerly one of two large Scandinavian (predominantly Norwegian) neighborhoods on the west side of Chicago. (Humboldt Park is the second neighborhood). Both are now predominantly Hispanic.

And YES, there is still a Norwegian -language church in the neighborhood, but I don’t know what records they retain. (It would be about 8 blocks from their residence.)
Norwegian Lutheran Memorial Church. 2614 N. Kedzie Boulevard. Chicago, IL 60647. 773/252-7335 (office) minnekirkchicago@yahoo.com;
See www.nnleague.org/church.htm for photos of the church.

BTW, some of the now Spanish-language Evangelical churches were formerly Norwegian churches of various denominations, and some still retain the old Norwegian church books.

However, all Norwegian-language Lutheran congregations that no longer exist filed their church records at ELCA which are available on microfilm. ELCA offers a fee-based lookup service. I do not do free lookups for anyone else, even though ELCA is in a nearby suburb and I have found my own relatives there.

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The cemetery nearest to Logan Square/Humboldt Park would be Mt Olive on Narragansett, and was originally Norwegian. Expect to pay a few $$ to get any info from them (they will confirm a burial for free, and give a location, but any research will have a fee). Yes, my own relatives are buried here, but I do not do visits there.
Mt Olive Cemetery & Mausoleum
(773) 286-3770
3800 N Narragansett Ave, Chicago

Of course she could have been buried just about anywhere else too, as there are older cemeteries with Norwegians. Graceland, Rosehill are near Clark Street on the far north side - near the old Swedish neighborhood of Andersonville.

I will look for any Illinois death indexes for BERG.
Since Petra died in Wisconsin, it is VERY DOUBTFUL that her family would pay to place a death notice in a metropolitan newspaper (such as Tribune or Sun Times). I was hoping to locate the graves of her children or husband, with whom she is probably buried. (My own great-grandparents bought a plot of several graves, and buried most of their children with them - including married ones.)

Re: Petra Marie Berg

Jeanie Goff (View posts)
Posted: 20 Sep 2006 10:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ralph
I just wanted to write to you again (also hope you received my first =
e-mail as I didn't have it labeled right) and thank you again. Going =
through all the responses that I received, I was overwhelmed with all of =
yours. You were most generous with your time and I appreciate all the =
info and suggestions. =20
I have worked some with the ELCA micro film tapes on some other =
research. I have rented their films and researched them myself. What I =
did not know is that they would do a research for you for a fee. Since =
the films are $15.00, I may check into having them do the search for me =
and see how much that is. What I would hope to find is an indication of =
when she (and my grandfather Peter Martinus) came to Chicago and from =
where.
My biggest thing with Petra is that I know she immigrated in 1890 (or =
there about) but I am not sure exactly where she went. Some family =
members said she went to Superior Wi to be with her son Ole Berg. =
Others indicated that she went to Chicago. Since there is no 1890 =
census to fall back on, I don't have a way to find that out. So we know =
that she went to Chicago by 1900 (according to the census) and lived =
there until her death. I also know she did die in Superior and was =
buried in Chicago. Her son Peter Martinus Berg is my grandfather. I =
have found him in the 1910 census with my grandmother and their 3 =
children. =20
I have done extensive research on this family and just a couple months =
ago, I visited their homes in Norway. I am now working on closing the =
gaps. =20
So again I do most sincerely thank you for your kind interest.
Jeanie Goff
Ps I guess I am a bit confusted on exactly where to send my replies so hope this is the right thing to do
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