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SHRECONGOST DNA - DYS19 = 17 Halogroup R1a -- origins or connections

SHRECONGOST DNA - DYS19 = 17 Halogroup R1a -- origins or connections

Posted: 26 Oct 2006 5:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Mar 2013 3:01PM GMT
Surnames: Shrecongost
Two Y-cms tests for the Shrecengost family line have yielded 34 DYS Alleles of a possible 46 -- most are high population (common) within the R1a Halogroup.

DYS19 yield a 17. This appears to be fairly rare among online postings and I would like to narrow its origins (entry of this mutation) in the Halogroup.

Is there anyone else with this marker? Or is there anyone who can assert the probable modification order? ie, did 16 appear before or after 17

This is the full Schreck/Shrecongost Halogroup as it stands now:
DYS394/19a 17
DYS394/19b -
DYS385b 11
DYS385b 14
DYS388 12
DYS389I 12
DYS389II 29
DYS390 24
DYS391 11
DYS392 11

DYS393 13
DYS426 12
DYS437 14
DYS438 11
DYS439 10
DYS441 13
DYS442 -
DYS444 -
DYS445 12
DYS446 -

DYS447 24
DYS448 -
DYS449 32
DYS452 -
DYS454 11
DYS455 11
DYS456 16
DYS458 14
DYS459a 9
DYS459b 10

DYS460 11
DYS461 11
DYS462 11
DYS463 24
DYS464a -
DYS464b -
DYS464c -
DYS464d -
DYS464e -
DYS464f -

DYS635 23
GGAAT1B07 9
YCAIIa 19
YCAIIb 19
YGATAA10 14
YGATAH4 13


The line originated with Jeremias Shrecongost whose baptism is confirmed in Germany, 1639, with no notation of parentage.

A working hyposthesis is that his family were Jewish (Ashkenazim). The Schreck surname (plus earlier varients) is common to Jewish lines in that area of Germany associated with Jeremias (Wingeshausen, Aue, Birkelbach). The surname varient is also found in notable conversions among the Swiss.

The Halogroup has the obvious Viking connections, but I'm more interested in connections which might go directly to the Khazar.

Another element of the DYS19a=17 appears to be a commonality amoung African-American males. I am also interested in this connection, as it would be consistent with slave list ownershiip records and expand the probable influence of a Shrecongost connection.

Re: DYS19 = 17 Halogroup R1a -- origins or connections

Posted: 16 Mar 2013 9:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
My DYS19/394 = 17 and my given haplogroup is I

Re: DYS19 = 17 Halogroup R1a -- origins or connections

Posted: 16 Mar 2013 10:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
That classification of Hg-I would be based on the other markers.

Hg-I also places you in central Europe along a line that runs from Greece to the Baltic, with a small percentage being among the Viking settlers of Iceland.

Re: SHRECONGOST DNA - DYS19 = 17 Halogroup R1a -- origins or connections

Posted: 9 Apr 2015 11:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
My parents dies by time I was 15.
My great great grandmother was Laura M Schrecongost.
My grandmother who raised me mostly, would teach me Mysticism.
although she said she grew up baptist and with hardcore german mentality.
She secretly believed in the practice of Judaic mysticism shared by her grandmother.
I have lived many years in search of who I am. I have son now. I am dyslexic. I believed all the woman in our family to be dyslexic. With passion my family taught me that i can achieve anything i put my mind to. I would like to be tested.
My name is Denise M Schrecongost-Kline.
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