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ydna useless?

Posted: 23 Jan 2015 5:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
I did the y-dna test on my dad before he passed. It used to show some matches and ethnicity charts, etc...but that is only downloadable now and not connected to other members on Ancestry. I would like to have kept the possible family matches. Am I not seeing the proper link or is that test basically useless now? Which leads me to the question....why did I spend all that money???

2nd question is, is that dna stored somewhere and can I pay to have it 'resurrected' for a modern dna test? Or has the dna been destroyed? Dad has passed and he has no male descendants in his line. Will my dna (female) do the same as his in a current test? (I kinda liked that it only did the male ancestry because it cut down the possible connections. I'm specifically looking for that family line.)

Re: ydna useless?

Posted: 23 Jan 2015 11:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ancestry discontinued its YDNA test last year and indicated that it intended to destroy the samples. I've heard conflicting reports about whether or not they actually destroyed them but they are not supporting YDNA matching any more.

You can manually enter your father's marker values at ysearch.org and may find some matches there. You can do an autosomal test yourself, which would cover all family lines including your father's. Several companies, including Ancestry, offer such tests. Many of us have tested at Ancestry, and then transferred the raw data to Family Tree DNA ($39 fee to see all results) and Gedmatch.com (free).

Jim

Re: ydna useless?

Posted: 25 Jan 2015 5:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
The DNA samples were stored at Sorenson Genomics, which did the laboratory testing for Ancestry. It is possible that they have not been destroyed.

You probably have not lost much, unless his surname project was based at Ancestry. Y-DNA results must be combined with a paper trail to be useful. The most important piece of genealogical information is a surname passed from father to son. Thus, you should stick with same-surname (or variant) matches, unless there is some evidence that the historical surname did not pass from father to son in one (or more) generations, i.e., a non-paternal event (NPE) occurred.

You can compare his results with surname project results at FTDNA, since they are all public. The simplest way is to pay them to transfer results, if you printed out his results. He will be in his surname project, but will not receive matches. They need to run 5 more markers and need a new sample for that. (Use Google to search for the pages at FTDNA.)

You can also search for the project from their home page and look for a matching group manually. You can make it easier by searching at YSearch to find the haplogroup of close matches, since surname results are usually sorted by it.

If the project shows the modals for each group, you should compare his to them. If he tested 46 markers, he will have 32 markers in common with FTDNA's Y-37. A 30/32 or better match is a close match. 1 or 2 more mismatches is a gray area.

Note that, in both cases you need to convert Ancestry nomenclature to FTDNA nomenclature:

DYS441, subtract 1
DYS442, subtract 5
Y-GATA-A10, subtract 2
Y-GATA-H4, subtract 1. (Some early Ancestry reports were 10 higher, in which case, you would need to subtract 11. FTDNA values are usually about 11.)

Re: ydna useless?

Posted: 11 Feb 2015 11:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm going to try that ysearch and see what I can come up with. Thank you so much for your responses!

Re: ydna useless?

Posted: 15 Feb 2015 2:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
you can get another test with familytreedna.com - there is a link for transferring across from other companies
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