Thank you for your reply.
My grandmother,Elizabeth, was John Herberts' sister.
There are one or two people searching this line some correct some not so!
I hope you have been able to see my tree and fill in any gaps on yours.There is a picture of Alice Thorpe and one of John Herbert.
Alice and James are causing a problem as their marriage certificate is untraceable!! So I can't trace the family any further back.If you have any more info it would be a great help.