Missing Death Certificates - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Jacob E. R. "Rado" Ferguson

hardy1968 — 2013-05-19 02:39:22Z

Help! Cannot find any death record for great-grandfather. Small newspaper posting says he died in Tennessee, either in McMinnville or McMinn County in 1885. I continue to run into brick walls and find no records of his death. Any help greatly appreciated.

Re: Melissa Lemons

hawki231 — 2013-05-18 14:57:58Z

Thanks for the advice Barbara and thanks Diskoverit for finding those records. All those marriage records look like my Malissa, I've found those before but I'm not to sure about those death certificates. I'm pretty sure that that isn't my Florence.

I believe that this is her on Find A Grave:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=structuredcraw...

I'm not to sure about that Wesley, I'll have to look more into that. I wish that I could find more records on him.

Re: Great Grandfather

Phyl00 — 2013-05-11 04:34:06Z

I have found a birth certificate for one of his sons. Name on birth certificate is Benjamin Franklin Johnson for the father. Not sure if the baby lived or not. Still researching...

Can't find anything about death

kararenee1990 — 2013-05-10 16:07:01Z

I'll have to explain some background information first.

My family has always identified as being from the Boyd bloodline, and nobody ever gave it a second thought. I was even taught this my entire life - you're a Boyd, and you should be proud. Now, I started doing research for my family tree without a lot of information. I found a wealth of info about my Boyd line........until I found out that we are not really Boyd's. My great-grandfather's stepfather basically took him as his own, and his mother gave him his stepfather's last name and changed his birth certificate to reflect that! Only a couple of other people in the family knew (go figure).

I know the name of the man who is my great-grandfather's biological father. Supposedly, he got killed at a gas station by a group of men while getting gas one night. I have no idea what year it is, and my grandma's brother said he found the newspaper article in which it described his death, but I haven't been able to find anything about his death. I supposed it would've happened in Kansas. I found his marriage license to my great-grandfather's mother, and I found the day my great-great-grandmother got married to the guy that essentially adopted him (my great grandfather was almost 3 years old).

So, going off of his 1) name, and 2) the fact that he died between 1913 and 1915, and 3) the place of marriage and ages of bride and groom, is there a way I can find his death cert or some evidence of death? His name is fairly common. Herbert E. Reynolds. There are plenty of them in the 1900 and 1910 census. After that, I can't find the right one....which makes sense, because he would've been dead by the 1920 census....and she's remarried by then to the stepdad. The weird part about it was that my great-grandfather was listed as "son" on the 1920 census to the stepdad with his last name...but then "stepson" on the 1930 census with his bio dad's last name!

Does this make sense? Can someone really change the birth certificate 2-3 years after the birth of the child and change the father? Maybe that's how they did it back then, but it's confusing to me. It's almost like "hiding" who his bio father was. They were only married for around 3 years before he presumably died. I wish I could find that article.

Two questions I would love answered about this scenario: How can I find this guy's death? Was it common for birth certificates to get amended to a different father if one died early in a child's life?

Thank you so much if you can help! I am new to all this genealogy stuff.

Re: Have info can't find record

SherriW33 — 2013-05-05 15:28:24Z

Yes, this is the Aaron I have been looking for. Thank you so much for all your help.

Re: Have info can't find record

eGENEee — 2013-05-04 17:37:08Z

Sherri -- Looks like the death info was one month off: (I'm assuming this is the same man.)

Source: Washington Death Index (Ancestry.com)

Name: Aaron E Smith
Date of Death: 8 Feb 1966
Place of Death: Yakima
Residence: Sunnyside
Gender: Male
Certificate: 004434

Re: Have info can't find record

thestorm175 — 2013-05-04 12:38:30Z

Hey,

Just to let you know I'm still on the hunt. I've found a couple but they don't appear to be your Aaron Smith

Re: Just can't find it.

SCIGSC — 2013-05-02 04:30:40Z

birth record
Jessie M Heine - female
Birth Date: 6 Feb 1895
Birth Place: Carrollton, Michigan
Parents - Henry Heine and Frances
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1900 Federal Census - Michigan > Saginaw > Carrollton > District 0030 > 2
Henry Haines 63
Francis Haines 37
Nettie Haines 8
Jessie B Haines 5
This record shows that Henry and Francis have been married for 9 years.
This record shows that Francis is the mother of 2 kids with 2 kids still living.
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1910 Federal Census - Michigan > Otsego > Charlton > 0163 > 9
Rolly Patridge 43
Wilburn Patridge 12
Roley Patridge 10
Hanna Mc Intyre 42
Bertha Mc Intyre 22
Jessie Haines 14
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death record
Jenie Campbell
Birth Year: 1895
Death Date: 26 Mar 1912
Death Place: Boyne City, Charlevoix, Michigan, USA
Age: 17
Father's Name: Henry Haynes

Re: Just can't find it.

SCIGSC — 2013-05-02 04:15:26Z

see scan of death cert here

http://cdm16317.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection/p12940...

Re: I have done what the last person suggested but need help with almost the same thing ?

SCIGSC — 2013-05-02 03:59:25Z

see scan of death cert here

http://seekingmichigan.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection...

Re: Have info can't find record

SherriW33 — 2013-05-01 15:49:26Z

I have full name: Aaron Edward Smith born: 04 April 1887 in Kansas, died: 08 March 1966 in Sunnyside, Washington.
However, I can not find any death documentation on him. Parents names are: John Robert Smith and Margarette Ann Cross smith.

Re: Have info can't find record

SherriW33 — 2013-05-01 15:48:54Z

Re: Have info can't find record

thestorm175 — 2013-05-01 15:08:09Z

I'll do what I can :-)

What information do you have & what record(s) are you looking for?

Re: Have info can't find record

SherriW33 — 2013-04-30 22:41:09Z

I am wondering if you can also help me. I am having the same problem. Have all information, but can't find record.

Re: Missing death cert Elizabeth Thomas, buried Groeswen, Caerphilly

ABiyT13 — 2013-04-29 15:43:10Z

Oh no! How disappointing. I did find two Eliza Thomas's married to William Thomas's on the 1871 census but of course that doesn't help you find her death record.
Apologies if you have already done this but do the details on her gravestone tie up exactly with the details in the burial records for that church? Did she die elsewhere and then was buried in her hometown?
Other than that it is probably a case of mis-spelling or mis-transcription of the original records. I've found an Esther Thomas died Q3 1876 age 43 in Bedwellty - it's vaguely possible her first name has been incorrectly registered?? Clutching at straws really but you don't know unless you see the actual certificate.
I hope someone else has more of a definite suggestion for you. Good luck!

Re: Missing death cert Elizabeth Thomas, buried Groeswen, Caerphilly

RhiannonDew1 — 2013-04-29 13:35:45Z

Hi
thanks so much for looking but unfortunately its not her. I was excited when i found that record and ordered the certificate but its def not her! that Eliza was living in tredegar and married to a Benjamin Thomas...

Re: English born relatives who died in California

MarcusM777 — 2013-04-29 09:40:25Z

Thank you - I'll keep on searching!

Re: 1897/98 Death Certificate for William Simpson - Help!!!!!!!!!

stevebny357 — 2013-04-29 02:51:29Z

Assuming that you have already checked the Scottish death index for 1897, then since you know when and where the death took place, I'd suggest checking the death records for the specific parishes nearest to where he died. It is possible that his death record was either mis-indexed or omitted from the index.

Re: English born relatives who died in California

stevebny357 — 2013-04-29 02:40:43Z

It is irrelevant what someone's citizenship status is. If they died in a particular jurisdiction, then that is where the death certificate should be issued and where the historical record would be maintained. In some cases, there might also be a death record in their home country, but that would be in addition to the one in the original place of death.

Re: Missing death cert Elizabeth Thomas, buried Groeswen, Caerphilly

ABiyT13 — 2013-04-28 18:59:17Z

Hi

I've found a record for the death of an Eliza Thomas registered Q3 1876, in the district of Bedwellty, which is about 11 miles north of Groeswen. Her age at death is given as 48.

Volume no. 11A, Page no. 63.

Is this her??

Bonnie

Re: Great Grandfather

dcole5711 — 2013-04-25 22:20:40Z

I am assuming that by finding this record, you are hopeful to find out his parent's name?

I can help you out with this if you'd like, you may email me:

dcole57@mac.com

Re: Have info can't find record

bWielert — 2013-04-24 17:58:13Z

Thank you for your effort. I did find Michael Dudley Greer and we are in contact. He said his wife, the daughter of Elaine will be in touch.
Many thanks,
Bill

Re: Have info can't find record

thestorm175 — 2013-04-24 17:43:52Z

Hey,

I've been looking and haven't come across anything - yet.

I found photos posted by another ancestry member (Michael Dudley Greer). She was gorgeous :-)

Have you tried contacting Michael and asking if he knows about the circumstances of her death?

I think you can get to his profile through this link:

http://community.ancestry.com/profile.aspx?mba=014ba007-0002...

I'll still keep looking though

Re: Ohio Death Certificate Search

ecerneka — 2013-04-24 16:20:13Z

Unfortunately I don't have any info on his parents, siblings, etc. I only know that he was born in Tuam, Ireland in 1835.

His wife's name was Mary Julia Kearns (Kerns) who was also from Tuam.

Thanks so much!!

Re: Have info can't find record

bWielert — 2013-04-24 09:36:47Z

Here's what I have:
Elaine Agnes Grubert Herwig dob 16 May 1928 -Baltimore
death 20 Aug 1960-Baltimore
married 7 Feb 1949 to Raymond Henry Herwig- Baltimore -1926-2000
four sons and one daughter

Hope to find circumstances of death.

Re: Ohio Death Certificate Search

thestorm175 — 2013-04-23 20:41:03Z

Do you have his parents' names and/or his wife's name?

Re: Ohio Death Certificate Search

thestorm175 — 2013-04-23 20:34:46Z

:-) I'll see if I can work some magic and find something

Re: Ohio Death Certificate Search

ecerneka — 2013-04-23 17:22:10Z

Didn't catch that!

Yes, thou are right. Born in 1835.

Thanks for catching that! Much appreciated

Great Grandfather

Phyl00 — 2013-04-23 16:16:41Z

Tombstone info: Frank Johnson, born Oct 29, 1855, died Jan 17, 1915. This is in New Hope Cemetery, Shelby County, IL. I can't find a death certificate for him. I am assuming he died in Shelby County, Il because all records that I have found shows that he lived in Cold Spring, Shelby County, IL for most of his life. According to census he was born in Missouri, but I don't know city or county. His wife Margaret Elizabeth George Johnson is buried at the same cemetery and I found her death record.
Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Ohio Death Certificate Search

thestorm175 — 2013-04-23 16:03:06Z

Hi,

The death date you give is 34 years earlier than the birth date.

Did you mean that he was born in 1835?

Re: Have info can't find record

thestorm175 — 2013-04-23 15:52:06Z

are you still looking for the record?

If you can give me the information, either through here or private message, I can try to look up the record for you :-)

Missing death cert Elizabeth Thomas, buried Groeswen, Caerphilly

RhiannonDew1 — 2013-04-21 20:24:25Z

Hi
Would be so grateful if someone could please help me find a death cert of Elizabeth (Eliza) Thomas died 4th Aug 1876 aged 44, buried Groeswen, Caerphilly. I don't understand why I can't find her death cert. I have been to the grave so she does exist! her baptism cert calls her Elizabeth Watkins, her marriage cert calls her Eliza and Elizabeth on her MI. She married William Thomas and he was noted as living at Cwarra Mawr at the time of her death which is in Caerphilly. The family story was that she died after a fall from a hourse, I'd be so pleased if I could find that out. Thanks in advance!

Ohio Death Certificate Search

ecerneka — 2013-04-17 16:43:40Z

I'm searching for a death certificate for my paternal great, great grandfather. Here is the info that I have, any help anyone can offer will be greatly appreciated.

John Michael Burk(e)
b. 1935 Tuam, Ireland
d. 9 Aug 1901

I believe he died in the Lima Infirmary in Lima, Ohio.

Thanks in advance!

Re: My Great Grandparents

rothdenise56 — 2013-04-14 22:57:28Z

No my mothers parents came from different parts of Italy & emigrated to the US One in 1907 & the other 1910. They met at their jobs here in the US.

Re: Stupid question?

sweeks4609 — 2013-04-13 21:49:51Z

I know that they dont care where the person died. What I am saying and everyone seems to be missing the point is It does NOT give any location of where his LAST benefit was MAILED to. He died in 1998. And the site I was looking at was a FAKE site if anyone had read my earlier message. It was someone wanting to show how easy it was to steal another person Identy if they wanted to. This person took a bunch of random SS and added fake identies.

I appreciate all the input that has been given but I have moved beyond this question because unless the family wants to know for certain they will have to write to the SSA themselves. it was just a favor for someone that I was looking into.

Thanks
Sue

Have info can't find record

bWielert — 2013-04-13 11:07:08Z

With an exact death date, birth date, location, spouse name and sibling name I am unable to find any record of person deceased at age 32 in 1960. Can you help?

Re: My Great Grandparents

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 06:39:01Z

If Umberto James Sgrignoli had a social security number, you may have luck with a maiden name if you can get a copy of his original application. I can walk you through that if you need.

Re: My Great Grandparents

dcole5711 — 2013-04-13 06:33:51Z

Am I correct in assuming that they were married prior to immigration?

Re: Need help deciphering handwriting for mother's maiden name on line 12 of death certificate.

i2crochet25 — 2013-04-13 03:53:58Z

If you crop and zoom in Picasa; it appears to be closer to Gnoalves(Gonsalves).

Re: Died at sea going to USA

eGENEee — 2013-04-12 18:18:01Z

I think you would have to get the ship's name in order to get more info.

Was he travelling with other relatives? If so, who?

How old was he?

What was his wife's name? Have you found her in any US census?

Re: Stupid question?

eGENEee — 2013-04-12 18:15:15Z

What is his death date?

Re: Stupid question?

eGENEee — 2013-04-12 18:14:39Z

The Social Security Administration does not keep track of where a person died. It only keeps track of last known location and last known place benefits were mailed.

It doesn't matter to the SSA where a person died -- that's not part of their responsibility. They are only concerned with sending the benefits to the right person/place.

Also, there's no legal way (that I know of) to get a living person's Social Security Number unless you are a private detective. If you are getting a living person's SSN off the Internet then you are probably at an illegal site! Stay away from it!

Re: My Great Grandparents

rothdenise56 — 2013-04-12 18:03:09Z

I'm also trying to find the maiden name of my great gramdmother on my mothers side. Her fathers parents names are: Raphael & Concetta Sgrignuoli. I don't know my great grandmothers maiden name; I was hoping I can find it not been successful. My mothers father came from Abruzzi,Italy to the US along with a number of his siblings. I'd be curious to know how to find her maiden name she's the only one haven't been successful with. Thanks!

Re: Stupid question?

katiecahall — 2013-04-11 14:29:31Z

Death certificates that I have seen usually have a cemetery listed. Is that on there? What state did he die in?

Re: Stupid question?

sweeks4609 — 2013-04-11 03:03:29Z

I did, I also looked for each county that he was thought to have been in and each state that was mentioned. The info is just not available to me from here.

Thanks
Sue

Re: Stupid question?

katiecahall — 2013-04-10 18:14:13Z

I would look at familysearch.org and findagrave.com

Died at sea going to USA

was_AnitaDiamond — 2013-04-09 15:47:02Z

I have been told that an ancestor Charles Smyth died on board a ship going to America, late 1800s early 1900s. He would was born in Northern Ireland, possibly Ballycastle in 1887. Is there any way I can find out more information. Thanks.

Re: My Great Grandparents

rothdenise56 — 2013-04-07 15:28:43Z

I think I found both maternal & paternal great grandparents. My paternal great grandparents names are: Antonio Ciarlerlio & Maria L Cambria. My maternal Great Grandparents names were Antonio D'erasmo & Maria Casella. Both sets of Grandparents emigrated to NYC but lived out their lives in NJ. I found one set of names on the passenger list to the US & I found the other said when my paternal Aunt remembered their names & told me.

Re: Joann Susan Dettloff - SSDI

jekntruesdell — 2013-04-07 12:55:17Z

Yes she married my grandfather and died in 1953 and is buried in Southfield Michigan at Holy Seplechure Cemetery under her married name Hall.

Re: Can't find a death certificate for a relative who was at Monson Hospital

dcole5711 — 2013-04-07 07:05:09Z

I took a look around real quick for you. I think the best place to start is at the MA archives. A list of their holdings suggests that they have the records from that hospital. You should probably give them a call and see if they may have specifically what you are looking for and if they could help you. If she died there or was released, it should be documented somewhere in the collection. I hope this helps!

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcpdf/sumhold.pdf