Royal Irish Constabulary - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

2nd Gt. Grandfather

historybuff63 — 2013-05-04 09:20:19Z

Does anyone have any information on John Lowther, my 2nd Gt. Grandfather. He was in The Royal Irish Constabulary from around 1830. He was born in Londonderry in 1809 to father John. He was married to Eliza and had 4 sons, Samuel, Robert, Richard and Edward, and 1 daughter Mary Elizabeth. He later went on to become a Gaol Governor. His two eldest sons, Samuel and Robert were also in the RIC, but later moved to Liverpool with their mother around 1860.

Re: Valerie Turner, killed by her husband, Jack

bradleyclark455 — 2013-03-02 10:04:10Z

Hi, I was just wondering if you have found your second cousins yet?

Re: District Inspector William Wilson, Templemore RIC

cardenkelly — 2012-12-27 22:14:49Z

i just realised i didnt give u my email-doh!!
trident@live.ie

Re: District Inspector William Wilson, Templemore RIC

cardenkelly — 2012-12-27 22:13:24Z

hi john
i have the statements on my computer from the four guys involved. there was a thesis written by a cop in the depot
some years back and i have a copy somewhere. it was very well researched and begun with the cardens right thru to the hand over by the british to jack scott. funny thing is
i remember old jack and his son neil used to show us this old gun which he called the key to the door-apparently the story is jack acquired the old gate house at gunpoint and stayed there!
my gran told me that they stayed all day in the sitting room
watching the street,she blamed stapleton for the house being burned cos he couldnt keep still and kept goin out on the street and to the pub across the road.a picture of the house burned is in the national museum.a copy is on the templemore website in the old photos.if u send me your email address ill forward the statements
and page numbers to u. my granduncle, sean downey, captured DI potter in south tipp and there is a lot on record there too.i know leahy was tormented by wilson,and decided he had to be shot no matter how difficult the task.

Re: District Inspector William Wilson, Templemore RIC

irishcopgc15 — 2012-12-27 19:54:38Z

Hi there and thanks for your message, I was really interested to receive it. I run the museum in the Garda College and I have done a lot of research on Wilsons death, the miracles and the town hall burning, but I did not know that a house had been burned down because of the shooting of Wilson. I have copies of most of the Tipp IRA statements, but did not find a reference to that. I would love to hear more about it, so I would be happy to meet you some day for a chat. Thanks, John

Re: District Inspector William Wilson, Templemore RIC

cardenkelly — 2012-12-27 16:12:55Z

hi there,
this name jumped out at me whilst trawling the site.
i cant help with family details but DI wilson was shot opposite my house.it was orchestrated from our house,and
it was burned to the ground the following day in retaliation. the planning and reasons for attack have recently been opened to the public with the release of the
ira statements from 1925 online.

Re: Location of Barricks

sparks1950 — 2012-12-24 01:41:20Z

Thank you ever so much. I will look into that.
Merry Christmas!
Mary

Re: Location of Barricks

tomjshiggins71 — 2012-12-23 18:36:27Z

Hi,a book called "Devia Hibernia.Road and Route Guide for Ireland of the Royal Irish Constabulary" was published in 1893. It gives the location of every R.I.C. barracks in Ireland at the time. You might be able to download it from somewhere on the internet or find a copy in a national library.

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

BrianMayes54 — 2012-10-21 14:25:22Z

Many thanks, I have the three names, ages, dates of enlistment but not the service record numbers as yet.

Many thanks for your interest.

Kate

Re: R.I.C. Record Info--John Marnell

maggie071114 — 2012-10-20 13:38:42Z

Thank you so much. I will try it now.
Alice

Re: R.I.C. Record Info--John Marnell

frankmcgurrin — 2012-10-19 16:00:17Z

Alice

Try the genealogy section of the following very helpful site -http://irishconstabulary.com

Frank

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

frankmcgurrin — 2012-10-19 15:48:56Z

Kate

If you have the service number you can obtain a copy of the RIC service record from the National Archives in Kew (HO184 series). I would also suggest you check out the following very helpful site - http://irishconstabulary.com

Any problems with either,let me know.

Frank

R.I.C. Record Info--John Marnell

maggie071114 — 2012-08-27 12:49:35Z

Good Morning:

My great grandfather was in the RIC according to the
1901 Census. He is listed on Ancestry in RIC Records,
enlisting age 21.
His name: John Marnell

Can anyone get more information on him from his records? And, how much info would be in his records?

He married May Ann Kane and had children in County Antrim.

How would I go about obtaining his records. Do you still
do that?
Thanks, Alice Marnell

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

BrianMayes54 — 2012-07-21 13:51:12Z

Does anyone know where I can access RIC service numbers. I think the records are available if you know the service number.

Please reply to k2a33126@btinternet.com

Kate

Re: District Inspector William Wilson, Templemore RIC

frankmcgurrin — 2012-01-01 20:59:52Z

Try the genealogy section of the site below,sure to be able to help.

Frank

http://irishconstabulary.com/directory#.TwDJFNTdkXt

District Inspector William Wilson, Templemore RIC

irishcop — 2012-01-01 16:38:57Z

Hi there, looking to trace relatives of DI William Harding Wilson who was killed by the IRA on Main St. Templemore on 16th August 1920. A Methodist originally from Ballycumber, Offaly, his wife was called Frances, and his children were Eccles George, Wesley H and Kate Fogarty. Wlson is buried at St. Marys Church of Ireland cemetery, Templemore.

Re: RIC Uniform - need date of photo

sparks1950 — 2011-12-15 18:08:30Z

Thank you!

Re: Does anyone recognize uniform?

sparks1950 — 2011-12-15 13:00:31Z

Thank you so much, Frank!

Re: RIC Uniform - need date of photo

frankmcgurrin — 2011-12-15 08:36:38Z

Tadhg Kilgannon, fairly famous Sligo photographer. His studio was in Thomas Street, Sligo town. Published 'Sligo and its Surroundings' (pictorial guide) in 1926. Attached is a copy of his census return in 1901. This will give you a time frame, albeit a large one.

Frank

Re: Does anyone recognize uniform?

frankmcgurrin — 2011-12-14 21:27:56Z

Try the genealogy section of this excellent site, really helpful people:

http://irishconstabulary.com/directory

Good luck.

Frank

Does anyone recognize uniform?

sparks1950 — 2011-12-14 18:29:01Z

Hi,
I would love to learn the approximate date of these photos and what service the uniform is....RIC ....WWI
Any suggestions would be most appreciated
Mary

RIC Uniform - need date of photo

sparks1950 — 2011-12-13 20:09:13Z

Hi,
I just received a picture of my family. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with the RIC uniform. Would this be a RIC uniform in the picture attached.
A date would really help identify the person.
THank you for all your help.
Mary

Re: Look up request

frankmcgurrin — 2011-09-24 17:24:17Z

Try the genealogy section of this excellent site, really helpful people:

http://irishconstabulary.com/directory

Good luck.

Frank

Look up request

KarenEvans5556 — 2011-09-24 12:34:07Z

I am hoping that someone with access to records would be able to look up Gilbert Dowd. I'm not sure of his exact date of birth, only that he was born in 1851 and joined the RIC when he was 18 (1869). He was also born in Co Westmeath if that helps at all.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

frankmcgurrin — 2011-09-03 06:25:30Z

Try the genealogy section of this excellent site, really helpful people:

http://irishconstabulary.com/directory

Good luck.

Frank

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

msmoynihan — 2011-09-02 20:38:08Z

Has anyone come across a Jeremiah Madigan in RIC records?

Re: Charles Bowles 72058 request

tlaporte1 — 2011-08-17 21:26:11Z

Thanks Frank and yes it is a great site. I have the same question posted on there. I know that the RIC files for Charles H. Bowles are on an LDS microfilm which I plan to order at our local Family History Centre. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Tom

Re: Charles Bowles 72058 request

frankmcgurrin — 2011-08-17 17:54:24Z

Try the genealogy section of this excellent site, really helpful:
http://irishconstabulary.com/directory

Good luck.

Frank

Re: Charles Bowles 72058 request

tlaporte1 — 2011-08-13 13:31:06Z

That's excellent actually. We now have a day of birth. Even if he exaggerated his year of birth to enlist, it's likely he kept the day the same. Also, he likely served in the First World War if he was a soldier prior to 1920. There are records to check there.
Thanks.
Tom

Re: Charles Bowles 72058 request

Llwyn_Hudol — 2011-08-13 11:02:50Z

Tom
All I can add is this from the book 'Police Casualties in Ireland 1919-1922':
Constable Bowles, from Kent and a single man, would have been 23 on the 18 April 1921. He had eight months' police service, having been a switchboard operator and a soldier before joining the RIC.

Aled

Charles Bowles 72058 request

tlaporte1 — 2011-08-12 23:56:50Z

Hello
Would someone have access to some further reference materials for members of the RIC? I'm interested in Charles H. Bowles 72058, age 22 of Kent when he was killed in the bombing of the Rosscarberry Barracks in 1921. So born about 1899. I have not been able to place him with any of the Kent Bowles lines and I'm wondering if there is any more information about where he was from. Neither the 1901 or 1911 censuses of England have him listed in Kent.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Tom

Royal Irish Constabulary

anitawellard2204 — 2011-06-14 21:03:50Z

I am trying to find any information on my Grandfather. He was born in Clonmel. His name is Francis Power dob 01/03/1890. I have been informed by relatives that because he was not old enough to join the RIC he used his brothers name Thomas ( not sure if this is true). Around 1920 he commited some crime while in the in RIC and had to leave Southern Ireland and could never return. He received a pension from the RIC and spent the rest of his life in England. He continued to be known as Tommy. His father's name was also Thomas. If any one has information they would be willing to share I would be very grateful. Thank you for reading my email.

Royal Irish Constabulary

anitawellard2204 — 2011-06-14 21:03:47Z

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary Ralph Reid

MICHAELHUGHES65 — 2011-04-16 13:34:52Z

Alan
I see your last posting was in August 2009.I believe we exchanged emails but I have lost some of my data following replacement of my old computer.

I have a detailed pedigree for James Hughes and Mary Jane Armstrong who married in June 1854. If you want a copy of it kindly contact me at mandjhughes2@googlemail.com.

Michael Hughes

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary Ralph Reid

MICHAELHUGHES65 — 2011-04-16 13:21:10Z

You posted a message a few years ago to say that you were related to Ralph Reid. I have a full pedigree for this family. Please contact me on mandjhughes2@googlemail.com

Michael Hughes

Re: John O'Brien McNeill, Londonderry

dublin208 — 2011-03-26 21:42:41Z

Hi,

I can confirm that there was only one John McNeil, born in Londonderry in 1862 joined the RIC in 1881 and I can obtain a copy of his RIC service Record for you. You can contact me at j_herlihy@esatclear.ie

Best regards,

JIM HERLIHY

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

HUNGATES1 — 2011-03-26 15:09:36Z

Sorry Jim,
I cannot do the underscoring.
Here's my email, hungatese@gmail.com,I will be able just to reply to yours with attachment--duh !!
I am self taught--and am living in Jaen in Spain,and no-one near to show me.
Thanks
Elsa-Mary

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

dublin208 — 2011-03-26 15:00:52Z

It an underscore _ like j_herlihy@esatclear.ie

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

HUNGATES1 — 2011-03-26 14:59:43Z

WOW ,THAT WAS QUICK JIM,

I HESITATED TO USE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AS there is a space between the j and herlihy (no dot?), and is it totally underlined?
Sorry to be such a prat!!

ELSA-MARY

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

HUNGATES1 — 2011-03-26 14:59:20Z

WOW ,THAT WAS QUICK JIM,

I HESITATED TO USE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AS there is a space between the j and herlihy (no dot?), and is it totally underlined?
Sorry to be such a prat!!

eLSA-mARY

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

dublin208 — 2011-03-26 14:53:34Z

Hi,

Can you send me a copy of the photograph at j_herlihy@esatclear.ie and I can tell you if
it is RIC or not.

Best regards,

JIM HERLIHY

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

HUNGATES1 — 2011-03-26 14:51:18Z

Hi Jim,
Thank you very much,problem is I am not sure if he was RIC , OR RUC.
The name I have on his death cert is Alexander Harold ROBINSON.......-he did not use the middle name when he married in Aughnacloy in 1915.
I also have one photo of him in uniform as a very young man-but have been told near impossible to tell from uniform
It also says he was a Royal Ordinance Rectifier ??
I realise it is impossible to get any info if he was in RUC.
If you find his record in RIC,I would be over the moon to have this information.
Many Thanks
Elsa-Mary

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary- Look Up Request

dublin208 — 2011-03-26 14:36:02Z

Hi Kim,

I can confirm that ROBERT THOMAS ROSS was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary who was born in Co. Fermanagh and was aged 20 when he joined in 1908. He resigned to Emigrate to Canada. DAVID B. SLOSS was also a member of the RIC as were a GEORGE TAYLOR SLOSS and a SAMUEL P. SLOSS. I can obtain a copy of their RIC Service Records. You can contact me at j_herlihy@esatclear.ie

Best regards,

JIM HERLIHY

Re: Royal Irish Constabulary

dublin208 — 2011-03-26 14:17:47Z

Hi,

I can obtain a copy of Alexander Robinson's RIC Service Record if you have not already got a copy.

You can contact me at j_herlihy@esatclear.ie

Best Regards,

JIM HERLIHY

Re: Christopher Palliser Wilson

ljwilson52 — 2011-03-26 12:04:19Z

I do have some records so not sure if they are his complete records
Would be interested to see what records you have access to.

I would really like to find his family in Ireland as we do not have much except his father was also Christopher and hisn mother Jane Jeffers.
We wonder if he had siblings
You can reply on
ljwilson@gmail.com

Re: Christopher Palliser Wilson

dublin208 — 2011-03-25 15:11:43Z

Hi,

I can obtain a copy of his RIC Service Record if you have not got it already.

Contact me j_herlihy@esatclear.ie

Best regards,

JIM HERLIHY

Re: Look Up Request

frankmcgurrin — 2011-01-18 10:06:39Z

Hi

Suggest you try the genealogy section of this excellent site:

http://irishconstabulary.com/directory

Frank

Look Up Request

mquiltster — 2011-01-18 04:01:25Z

I am hoping someone can do search of the Royal Irish Constablary. I am looking for the records of James Lombard who was born 9 July 1867 and I believe served in the Buttevant Barracks. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Nina

Re: William Whiting

geraldinejull — 2010-11-03 18:48:57Z

Difficult to know what to do now. Without further info I will never know if I am researching the correct William Whiting. I did research William Henry Whiting who married a Juanita in Cork. They are on the 1911 census. But I think this William is Temporary Cadet W. Whiting who served in the RIC at approximately the same time as my William.

Re: William Whiting

frankmcgurrin — 2010-11-03 17:51:32Z

Yes, that's the full extent of the service record.

Frank