Hello.

I'm writing a family book , and wondered what was happen with some of my family that left for the US.

Lars -Lewis Helgesen born in 1847 in Sigdal in Norway left together with his 1. cousin Thore Thoresen born in Norway 1858. They left in 1884 to Chippewa Falls.

I believe that they must have been there in 1890th also , because Thore's two brothers Ole Thoresen born 1860 and Gunnar born in 1896 also left to the same place;Chippewa Falls in 1891.

Thank you for any help.
Regards
Tormod Thoresen
Norway

1900 United States Federal Census
about Lars Helgeson
Name: Lars Helgeson
Home in 1900: Stanley, Chippewa, Wisconsin
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to head-of-house: Boarder
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Immigration Year: 1883
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Brathen 43
Lena K Brathen 33
Olga Brathen 12
Roy G Brathen 6
Oscar Brathen 2
Charley Johnson 42
Julie Holte 18
Hilda Olson 28
Peter Erickson 26
Louis Madison 24
Andrew Odness 24
Warner Hugo 20
John Olan 39
Ole Madison 25
Ian Sutton 28
John E Rally 24
Milton Langer 30
George Olson 23
Joe Daudick 24
Christ Balgher 23
Mons Halle 22
William Berggniel 28
Bartin Jacknson 23
Theodore Wilson 28
John Huntson 26
Peter Mike 23
John Benard 22
Dannis Keegan 49
James Keegan 16
Elick Berzolie 46
Louis Gignilliat 34
Sam Knuteson 35
Jack Breede 50
Emery Thompson 38
Joseph Hanson 23
Louis Smith 40
Charley Landahl 40
Lars Helgeson 53 BOARDER*** May 1847 NORWAY NORWAY NORWAY IMMIGRATED 1883 IN THE US FOR 17 YEARS NATURALIZATION AL lABORER WOOD
Joe Flora 23
Henry Olson 27
John H Johnson 35
Arron Loper 32
John Thorp 41
Charley Thorp 36
John Jackson 33
Frank Jackson 20

Then i found this it sort of matches your Lars except it says he has been married 40 years? Says he is a Carpenter House Builder naturalized AL Immigrated 1882 He and his parents from Norway
1910 United States Federal Census
about Lars Heldfield
Name: Lars Heldfield
Age in 1910: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Spouse's Name: Martine
Home in 1910: Pratt, Bayfield, Wisconsin
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1882
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Lars Heldfield 63
Martine Heldfield 61 wife married 40 yrs 3births 2 alive
Norway Norway Norway Immigrated 1882


This next one is a long shot for Ole and Thore
1910 United States Federal Census
about Ole Thoreson
Name: Ole Thoreson
Age in 1910: 33
[55]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
[abt 1855]
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Hired Man
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Center, Winnebago, Iowa
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1889
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Torge Thronterdt 31
Tella Thronterdt 31
V??Eie j Thronterdt 10
Alma Thronterdt 9
Ole E Thronterdt 6
Gantrice b Thronterdt 3
Ole Thoreson 33 Hired man


Also found this
Minnesota Cemetery Inscription Index, Select Counties
about Thor P Thoreson
Township: Blooming Grove
County: Waseca
Name: Thor P Thoreson
Birth Date: 29 Mar 1858
Death Date: 23 Dec 1924
Cemetery: North Waseca
Comments: SP. EMALIA A. OLESON
Section: N

There are a ton of Ole Thoreson's and i couldnt find any with any kind of a birth date.......Sorry i could not find info for u.............KIM

Hello Kim.
Thank you for your help.

My Lars Helgesen was born 12.25.1847, and my Thore Thoresen was born in september 1858.

So I think your was wrong. It could be that they change their names or left to other places, or even died before 1900.
But I'm pretty sure that Lars Helgesen or Thore Thoresen was living in the area in 1890 census, becouse two brothers of Thore left for the same placec in 1891.

Thank you for helping me!!
Regards
Tormod

Hei Kim.
I did find out some more.
Ole and Gunnar Thoresen left from Oslo sept.4.1891. Gunnar used the name Torrissen, and Ole Toresen.

They got a third man also from tthe same area: Guul Eriksen born in 1866. Guul could very often be Gilbert.

Thank you for any help.
Regards
Tormod

I did not mention earlier but there is no images or info available for the US 1890 census. There was a fire and what did not get burnt was thrown out. So that said, Most of the names that match or could be a possibility dont match with the immigration...For instance there are numerous Toresons, THoresons etc....but they are in the 1880 census which could not be for your family.
I did find this one but i dont think he is yours because he was with his family and he had a wife and 7 children and the two oldest children were 16 and 14 and were also born in Norway the rest of the children were born in MN.

Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
about Ole Toreson
Name: Ole Toreson
Census Date: 1895
County: Otter Tail
Locality: Fergus Falls Ward 1
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Race: White
Line: 1
Roll: V290_80

I have searched down numerous possibilities and cant find anything that would be close to the men u mentioned. One of the major problems is that when census were done the information is not always reliable.. It depends on 1. Who is giving the info ( was it a neighbor? or someone in the house that may not know the correct info?)
2. What the census taker wrote....most of the time the census taker would spell the names as he heard them.
3. And then of course is just human error.

I really wish i could have found something for u there are tons of Thoresons in Wisconsin. I hope u find the info u r looking for..................KIM

Hello Kim.
Thank you for helping me. I understand that's pretty difficult to find the right Thoresen or Helgesen. Theu could also have left from the area between 1891 and 1900.

I know that it is a Historical Society in Chippewa Falls. Do you know any e-mail adresses.
It could be that some of them knows about some Norwegian descendant , even some of themselves.

Thank you.
Regards
Tormod

If u go here http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/localhistory/directory/views...
You will find the webpage for the historical Society in Chippewa Falls and there is an email for the president
Chippewa County Historical Society (WC)

Society Information
123 Allen St
Chippewa Falls, WI, 54729
Phone: 715-723-4399

Society President
David Murray Gordon
6854 182nd St
Chippewa Falls, WI, 54729
Phone: 715-723-2647
E-mail: andvgordon@aol.com
* Area History Center
David Murray Gordon
123 Allen Street, Chippewa Falls, 54729
Phone: (715) 723-4399
Open Tuesdays, 9am-4pm.

Hello Kim .
Thank you, Great to get help.

Another brother to Ole , Thore and Gunnar Thoresen;
Kristian Thoresen also left to the US, in 1893, I believe to Chippewa Falls .
His name was Kristian Thoresen, born 1866. He take care of his mother Ragne Olsdaughter born 1830, his wife Ingeborg Eriksdaughter bprn 1869 and their daughter ; Tora Kristiansdaughter (1892).

Could you please try once moore??
Thank you!!!!
Regards
Tormod

Does any of the following families seem at all familiar?
The first one:
ID: I78397105
Name: Gunder THORESEN
Given Name: Gunder
Surname: THORESEN
Sex: M
Birth: 5 Sept 1861 in Gru Solor, Hedmark, Norway
Death: 27 Jan 1949 in Blue Hill, Sherburne, Minnesota

Father: Tore ARNESEN b: 1820 in Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Mother: Karen KRISTOFFERSDATTER b: 1823 in Hoff, Norway

Marriage 1 Thea MARTINSDATTER

Marriage 2 Karen PEDERSDATTER b: in Norway
Children
Kaja THORESEN b: 18 Aug 1887 in Grue Solor, Norway





Second one:


Name: Tore TORSEN
Sex: M
Birth: 25 SEP 1835 in Alvdal, Norway
Death: 20 DEC 1921 in Woodville, Wisconsin

Father: Tore TORSEN b: 1804 in Norway
Mother: Kari OLSDATTER b: 1802 in Norway

Marriage 1 Ingeborg Haldosdatter HOLEN b: 30 JAN 1843 in Grimsbo, Norway
Children
Haldo "Henry" THORSEN b: 14 NOV 1865 in Alvdal, Norway

Hello Kim.
None of them are familiar. Thank you for trying to help me.

Is it some Tora Kristiansdaughter there in 1900 census born in Norway 1892?
It could be Tora Christiansdaugter.

Thank you.
Regards
Tormod