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Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 7 Jul 2015 3:15PM GMT
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Thank you, McComberdescendant. That's a helpful suggestion.

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Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 9 Jul 2015 12:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Jul 2015 12:38AM GMT
Yes, the proper process is to ask permission. Even if they don't respond using the photo would still be a copyright violation whether you attribute it to them or not. In theory, they may not be the copyright holder but may have uploaded a picture they received permission to post. That's the proper process.

This said, I find it hard to reconcile posting images of publicly viewable objects and then not giving permission to use them.

Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 13 Jul 2015 11:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you FitznerFam. Helpful reply. I will certainly go for the permissions.

Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 16 Jul 2015 6:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, it is absolutely necessary to obtain permission from the photographer to republish their photo on Ancestry. If you canNOT contact the the photographer, do NOT add the photo to Ancestry.

Find A Grave policy:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=listFaqs#143
"I found a photo of a relative on Find A Grave, can I use it?
Photos posted to memorials on Find A Grave are copyrighted by the member who submitted the photos. Lifting the photo to use elsewhere would be a violation of copyright. You must obtain written permission from the member to use any photo for your own use. In general if you did not take the photo yourself, you do not hold the copyright to the photo."

Ancestry's policy:
http://trees.ancestry.com/SubmissionAgreement/Multimedia
"You should submit only content which belongs to you and will not violate the property or other rights of other people or organizations. We are sensitive to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of others. Be aware that content, including photographs, even if submitted to a site of which you are a member, belongs to the creator or submitter and you should not reproduce it without permission of the owner..."
and
"Rules for Conduct
You must not use Ancestry's products and services to:
...
B. Post, transmit, or display content which is protected by copyright or trademark or that does not belong to you and that you do not have authorization for use from the owner of the copyright or trademark, including but not limited to email messages and notes in GEDCOMs. Read our copyright policy if you have questions."

Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 16 Jul 2015 7:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, Jackie, for the informative post.

Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 22 Jul 2015 5:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
I may be the person everyone is so up in arms about. I didn't think anything of it to take a picture that was put on FAG and save it as the main picture of one of my family. I am a volunteer and I have taken some photos and I do not mind and am happy if someone wishes to use that photo anyway they want except maybe sell it. I am sorry, I enjoy helping others, and I don't understand why there is a problem with it. I'll never be able to visit all the places, and after you die if you haven't appointed someone to take your site over it just hangs in the air forever I guess. It is hard to get permission from them to let someone else take over the page even with proof of death

Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 22 Jul 2015 5:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
If the member that submitted it has died, or refuses to answer you, or is inactive, what then ?

Re: Suddenly seeing lots of Find a Grave pictures on Ancestry

Posted: 22 Jul 2015 5:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am going to my profile and give blanket permission to anyone to use in their tree.
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