Germany - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Recycling in cemeteries

jmjm33 — 2013-05-14 00:43:22Z

Someone just told me that German cemeteries recycle Cemetary plots after 25 years. Is this customary? And what happens to the remains? I had family members that were living in Herrenberg and thought I would see if I could find their burial place that I would find someone to take pictures for me. Does anyone know?

Joanne

Re: translation of German tombstone - Charles Conrad Meyer / Thekla ?

judiann75 — 2013-04-06 23:54:03Z

Use Bing translator and you will be able to translate this.

Re: History on Andreas Kutz/Christine Frantske from Poland?

FamFo — 2013-03-04 20:24:10Z

without places/years is difficult to help you.

this is maybe interesting for you.
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.histreg.pruss...

the places are misspelled. maybe you ask on the poland unknown board, for help to figured out, which places are they from.

good luck

cemetery info

cookies19601 — 2013-03-02 21:34:23Z

Can someone clarify.....my understanding of burials in Germany, the grave sites are only rented for a period of time 20-50 yrs(various sites indicate 20-30;30-40;30-50 yrs)
The deceased are not embalmed, so that natural decay takes place, does this mean there is nothing left? If there is (any remaining) then what happens to the remaining body? I am trying to understand, as my ancestors (before 1880's) would have been living and died in Germany.

Does the same occur in Poland, which was formerly part of Germany?

How would one go about locating a village; town that their ancestors lived, died in? It is my understanding that during WWII the records were destoryed, yet I have heard some may still exist in churches in both Germany and now Poland the part that was formerly Germany.

Thank you

Re: zeien/zeyen

zeienron — 2013-03-01 03:07:04Z

Cathy;Say hi to Wally for me. This is Ron Zeien(son of William A.). Sylvester was my Godfather. What a wonderful surprise to hear from you. My wife Linda and I have been working on our ancestry tree for quite some time, but not much at a time. We have the family back to Jacob Zeyen at about 1670 birth in Zermullen. I posted that note in 2012 hoping to add to the info that we already had. We finaly joined Ancestry a month ago. We tried to concentrate only on our direct lineage, so we passed up a lot of the families information. We have since started to form the tree and print what we have. I have prior commitments so we are going to let Ancestry expire for now. I would appreciate anything that you would be willing to share. After about a month of my forum post, I got a reply from a school teacher, Karl Josef Tonner, that teaches in Kelberg. I was elated. He gave me 37 pages of decendency in Germany. However, we still could't get past Jacob. Last fall, Lin and I took a week long drive into Wisc. and down into Iowa and just before we came back, I just had to stop to talk to some of the Zeien's there. I know that we are related, but the tie has to happen in the early 1800's and before. That family didn't emmigrate until 1875. This fall, Lin and I are taking a trip to Germany. We are planning on about a 3 week trip. We are very excited. If I remember correctly, didn't you make that trip? I want to see the areas that they are from. Oh by the way, if you are not Wally's wife, I'm going to be very embarassed. Thank you so very much, Cathy, and have a great day. -Ron- zeienron@gmail.com

Re: zeien/zeyen

CathyGirgen — 2013-02-28 23:59:14Z

My husband's mother was Gertrude Zeien, and she is a descendant of Johann Joseph Zeien and Maria Magdalena Gitzen, of Zurmullen, Germany. I have shared my research data with many others, and now it is posted on line in ancestry.com files. I have an extensive file on many different branches of this family and I have done all the original research for the family, using the LDS films at the Family History Center. Re: the descending families, I have much information and would be willing to share it.
From which branch of the family are you descended?
Cathy Girgen
wgirgen@aol.com

History on Andreas Kutz/Christine Frantske from Poland?

KutzM — 2013-02-28 04:43:10Z

Would like to hear from anyone with history on these people. I am a great-great granddaughter.

Re: Kamphenkel, William J.

Mamalacey — 2013-02-23 23:38:36Z

My mother was his daughter (Flora Kamphenkel Heimlich). There was Martha Kamphenkel Salze, Arthur and William (Will). His wife was Mary Henrietta Zurheide.

See my family tree Dorothy Nelson has all the Kamphenkels.

Arthur has two children, William (Bill) and Gloria.
William (Will) has a Daughter Carolyn.

Re: translation of German tombstone - Charles Conrad Meyer / Thekla ?

aitken57 — 2013-02-21 02:06:07Z

I just came across your search item. I would read the item: the 2nd line as: Frau Thekla verw. (widowed) Dr. Klaunig

Was she married to a Dr. Klaunig? The wive always took on the Dr. title even she was not a Dr. I hope this will help.

Re: translation of German tombstone - Charles Conrad Meyer / Thekla ?

DBalderson2166 — 2013-02-19 21:44:50Z

Saw your message and I have a cousin who is interested in knowing if Thekla Meyer was the daughter of Mary Meyer; who married secondly to Upson P. Powell? My cousin is applying for the DAR through the Powell lineage and she would be interested in talking with you with regards to Upson's mother, Elizabeth. Can you contact her at springerpc@msn.com? She does not use Ancestry. Thanks, in advance. DBalderson2166

zeien/zeyen

zeienron — 2013-02-08 02:20:11Z

We have family going back to 1600s in Zermullen,Germany. We're looking for photos, news clippings, cementery info. Zeyen b1755 d1797 Zermullen Zenzen b1770 d1837 Kelberg,Germany. Their son Johann b1794 d1861 was born in Germany and died in Wisc. USA

Re: Help, can't read this writing!

KlausWa — 2012-10-14 14:26:06Z

It says:
Charlotte Kaufmann, nee Kreiling, born in Gießen /Hessen

Gießen is a town in middle of german staate of Hesse

Klaus (Germany)

Re: pflugfelder

Hoganha16 — 2012-10-05 19:01:26Z

Hi Sherrilyn,

I'm sorry to hear about your husband. I hope everything goes okay.

It seems that you may have more info on the Pflugfelders than I. From which of their children do you descend? Do you know if they have a gravestone at Northwood? Many of the family members I have found from this generation were buried without markers. I look forward to hearing from you again.

Take care and Good luck with your husband.
Heather

Re: pflugfelder

sherrilynhenry1 — 2012-10-04 00:22:00Z

hi sorry to get back so late ,i have some info and i know they moved tge remains out of glenwood and moved them to another one called northwood cemetery,i just received some info from there hopefully i can do some up dates this weekend,we just found out my hubby has throat cancer two weeks ago so have been busy at dr's and hospital but i will get on this it relaxes me some what.thank you for your info.

Brenckman family

ronbrenckman — 2012-09-23 20:56:31Z

Looking for any info on Brenckman family's living in Germany
in the Badden area that may be related, any info appreciated.

Re: pflugfelder

Hoganha16 — 2012-09-21 19:15:01Z

Hi Sherri! Perhaps we are cousins :O)

John Pflugfelder (b. 1813) and Rose (b. 1827) are my 3xGreat Grandparents. They emigrated from Wurttemberg, Germany to Philadelphia. I'm not sure if together or not. I haven't found a marriage record - yet.

It threw me off, but I found that the family appears on the 1870 census, but their names were butchered. Rose appears as Rebecca. There were 6 children: Rosina, John, Caroline, Philip, Henry, and Lizzie (my 2xgreat Grandmother).

Rose died on Jan 10, 1898. Her funeral services were held at her son-in-law's house, Abner Jones (he married Rosina). She is buried at Glenwood Cemetery (which has been moved out of Philadelphia).

I'm not sure about John Pflugfelder. There is another man with the same name and almost the same birth year in the Philadelphia area. I'm still trying to work that out. We do know however from Rose's obit that she was the widow of John Pflugfelder.

Hope this information helps!

Regards,

Heather

Help, can't read this writing!

mlblair166 — 2012-09-10 13:21:58Z

These are my GGrandparents Kaufmann. I can decipher Johannes' information - born in Weingarten/Pfalz, but am having trouble with Charlotte's. I can't make out the first two lines. Is one giving her maiden name and the other where she was born? I think one word is Kreiling and another Kessen, then I'm lost.

Thanks for any help offered.

Lehning, looking for father and mother of Wilhelmine Lehning

Lsapphire — 2012-08-12 16:31:55Z

Wilhelmine Philippine Dorthea Lehning

B:
10/25/1835 in Weferlingen, Niedersachsen, Germany
D:
03/29/1905 in Hornburg, Wolfenbuttel, Niedersachsen, Germany

Re: Kamphenkel, William J.

Gabriele_Bornkessel_Harkey — 2012-08-12 13:03:26Z

Kamphenkel, William J.
Mamalacey Posted: 9 May 2012 2:34PM
Classification: Query
My Grandfather was from Wieda, Germany. He had a Brother, Louis and a sister, Anna. Born June 18, 1865. Looking for Information on his parents, or any relatives.
Possible 2nd brother Karl.

Immigration Year 1892.

response:
I have sparse information so far. My mother was Ruth Anna Pauline Bornkessel and was born in Wieda. Her father was Willi Otto Bornkessel b. 20 Oct 1908 in Wieda.
Parents of Willi Bornkessel were Carl Bornkessel and Anna Marie Kamphenkel. Also both born in Wieda although I have no birth dates for them yet.
Chances of KAMPHENKEL in a small town like Wieda not being related are minuscule, imho. I would be interested in any information you have if you would like to share. Is your line the one that went to Adams County, Illinois? very interested in William's siblings.
Gabriele Bornkessel Harkey
ngharkey@sbcglobal.net

Re: Cemetery in Bannewitz

lchite2005 — 2012-07-12 22:07:43Z

Danke! I just sent them a request.

Re: Cemetery in Bannewitz

FamFo — 2012-07-12 18:58:24Z

Maybe you ask direct by the gouverment of Bannewitz

http://www.bannewitz.de/bannewitz/idx.asp
Link: Kontakt

Cemetery in Bannewitz

lchite2005 — 2012-07-02 23:38:51Z

My cousin is buried in a cemetery in Bannewitz, Germany but I cannot locate any information on this cemetery. Has anyone heard of this and could give me some information such as an address?
Thanks

Lois

Re: Zimmer John

skizzoshop — 2012-07-01 05:45:05Z

I found at Google an adress:
Alsdorfer Geschichtsverein
Email: rb@alsdorfer-geschichtsverein.de

Zimmer John

whimmy55 — 2012-06-11 05:02:07Z

I am trying to find my family roots. My great grandmothers maiden name was Zimmer her father is listed as John. I think they came from around the area of Alsdorf. I will be coming to Germany in a couple of weeks and wanting to know if there is any where I can look up recoeds are walk through some grave yards looking for names or in a regisrty. I know it's a long shot but I will be there any way why not look. Thanks Wilma

Re: Albafelt, Germany

skizzoshop — 2012-06-07 13:23:39Z

Albafelt would be Elberfeld - today a part of the town
Wuppertal.
Waldbroel is right, it is near by Koeln.

Re: Cemeteries in RACHTIG, GERMANY?

m_posse1 — 2012-06-03 15:30:55Z

Hi! It´s been more than a year since you posted your question about cemeteries in the Zeltingen area, better late than never, I suppose- here´s another reply! We spent a week there recently, and, though not searching for any cemeteries, we almost stumbled across one, in the hills above the villages. http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1384509 shows a picture from the site. It is almost certainely jewish, and no longer in "use". I saw graves with burial-dates in the 1920´s.
Best regards, Magnus Posse. (Sweden)

Henry Mohr 1823- 1870

ritabar15 — 2012-05-14 14:23:48Z

I am searching for the birth of Henry Mohr born 1823 in Hesse Darmstardt Germany and Mary Worster born 1829 in Wurttemberg Germany. Henry came to the states in 1848. He landed in New York and they lived in Lafayette Indiana until their deaths. Henry died in 1870 and Mary 1896. I have been searching over a year and I am stuck. Any info is greatly appreciated.

John Alfred & Sarah A. Reschke

austxmyke — 2012-05-10 00:19:09Z

I'm looking for information on great grandmother and great grandfather. Work Camp. Berlin Germany Born abt. 1866

Kamphenkel, William J.

Mamalacey — 2012-05-09 18:34:56Z

My Grandfather was from Wieda, Germany. He had a Brother, Louis and a sister, Anna. Born June 18, 1865. Looking for Information on his parents, or any relatives.
Possible 2nd brother Karl.

Immigration Year 1892.

Re: Looking for the birth last name of Rolf Ruediger Jones

inselpfarrer — 2012-05-08 23:34:52Z

Dear Mindy,

the II. WW endet in Europe 08. May 1945.
So if a soldier was not prisoned (the Soviet Union had lesse unti 1955 prisoners of war) and died there, he could not be the father of someone, who was born in 1949.

Re: Looking for the birth last name of Rolf Ruediger Jones

cdabroi — 2012-05-03 13:19:59Z

Mindy,

Been awhile since I have last talked with you. We still need to get together and meet each others famlies.

Was reading your last post and was wondering if you have searched the passenger ships rosters, have had some luck in finding some names there.

Let us know when would be a good time to get together

Chris Da Broi
dabroi@verizon.net

Re: No old cemeteries in NW Westphalen?

fichter73 — 2012-04-07 16:18:38Z

Hello all,

I can confirm that. The graves are "rented" for a period of time (usually 30-40 years) and if the descendents do not pay for an "extention period", the grave will be levelled.

Sad side effect:
The "rental time" counts from the first reantal date. No matter if someone is burried there or not. If someone wants to reserve a grave during his live time (e.g. for him/her and the spouse) the time is already ticking from that moment.
Especially in case of a double/couple graves this might get complicate if the spouse dies decades after the partner.

Best Regards
Thomas

PS: needless to mention that the grave "fee" and the maximum duration time depends on the size of the town, the grave yard and the number of available graves.

Albafelt, Germany

boatcoat7 — 2012-04-07 01:29:19Z

Does anyone have any information on Robert and Katrina Gerhart & their daughter, Augusta, who was born in Albafelt, Germany? They immigrated to Galveston, Texas in 1845 through the port at Antwerp, Belgum. Immigration records list their point of origin as Walbroel, Germany near Colonge.

I have excellent photos of Katrina and Augusta, but none of Robert and no family history after they left Germany. I am interested in Katrina's maiden name, her family, and Robert's family in Germany.

Any help would be appreciated.

family

sherrilynhenry1 — 2012-03-17 02:09:28Z

i am looking for family names or info of murray,maxwell,pflugfelder,murray is from scotland,pflugfelder is from germany ,i am just really getting into this so still not sure where they came from as far as towns ,any info would be a great help..thank you

Re: Carstens Family

mrsdalloway — 2012-03-14 14:33:41Z

I have Carstens in my tree through my husband's mother's family, the Kaysers.
Christian Wilhelm Carstens, b. 1815, Bokelsess, Schleswig-Holstein, Prussia
Married to Charlotte Elizabeth Koepecke 1818-1869
daughter Sophie Emilie Henriette Carstens 1841 -1887 (all born in the same place) married to Juergen Anton Heinrich Kayser in 1869. Juergen's dates 1843-1928. He was my husband's great-grand uncle.
Niedersachsen was created in 1946 after WW 2. It encompasses the old Kingdom of Hannover and parts of West Prussia.

Re: Geiger in Niederhorbach, Pfalz, Germany

inselpfarrer — 2012-03-03 01:47:39Z

e.g.
http://www.ortsfamilienbuecher.de/famreport.php?ofb=erlenbac...

Katharina Geiger
*25.11.1900 Niederhorrbach +24.01.1970 Babelroth
oo Johannes Gemar

or look
http://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=winden&ID=411...

Perhaps
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/datenblatt.jsp?nr=1013394
Klaus.Wenz@t-online.de
knows more

http://www.online-ofb.de/namelist.php?nachname=GEIGER&of...

You will get a lot of Geiger and you may also ask Werner Esser, who made the online book and is a specialist.

Re: Mathias Roth 1826 - 1908 Dundenheim Germany

sip176 — 2012-03-02 22:49:46Z

I'm very new at this. Are you telling me to go to the internet and look for the Telephone Directory for Dundenheim? When I search The Dundenheim Directory it doesn't pull up in board search. Thanks

Re: babette buff

HART_JENNIFER — 2012-03-02 21:28:37Z

thankyou

Re: Geiger Family

skizzoshop — 2012-03-02 21:15:43Z

Look to www.Niederhorbach.de.

Re: babette buff

skizzoshop — 2012-03-02 21:08:52Z

Here it is:;
Hier ruht in Gott
Babette Buff geborene Schuch 1843-1916
Anna Disselhoff geborene Buff 1881-1967
Ruhe in Frieden

Re: Carstens Family

skizzoshop — 2012-03-02 20:59:41Z

Bispingen and Hemslingen are both in the north of Germany
in "Niedersachsen". You can have a look or you can write
to www.Bispingen.de or a email to "gemeinde@hemslingen.de".

Re: pflugfelder

skizzoshop — 2012-03-02 20:47:27Z

From where they are?? Germany is big. Try www.Pflugfelder
genealogie.de to find out something.

Re: Grave Search- Conradi SCHERRER & Elisabethae FISCHER SCHERRER

skizzoshop — 2012-03-02 20:36:13Z

Go to www.hoerdt-pfalz.de or www.ruelzheim.de and ask for
records or the cemetery to the "Standesamt" Hoerdt.
Good luck.

Re: Mathias Roth 1826 - 1908 Dundenheim Germany

skizzoshop — 2012-03-02 20:16:02Z

Sorry. "Das Oertliche".de

Re: Mathias Roth 1826 - 1908 Dundenheim Germany

skizzoshop — 2012-03-02 20:14:54Z

Go to "Das Oertliche" Dundenheim and then you can find
a lot with the name "Roth".

Mathias Roth 1826 - 1908 Dundenheim Germany

sip176 — 2012-02-09 01:25:23Z

Mathias Roth b. Aug.18,1826 in Dundenheim, Germany, mar, Christine Woehrle Febr. 12,1855. They had five children Kathrine,William,David,Christina,Anna. When Anna was nine they came to America,located in Iowa township, Iowa county in 1874. My g-grandfather is William Roth. I would especially appreciate any information about the ancesters remaining in Germany. (sip@hamilton.net)

Helga Best and Ekard Rose

redt156 — 2012-02-05 18:31:09Z

My name name is Teena Patrick ( Petra Best). Helga was my mother and Ekard was my father. I'm looking for information on my sisters and brother: Gabriele, Silvia, Dagmar, Heidi and Paul (who I understand passed away).

Re: Orphanages In Stettin Germany

halpark — 2012-02-03 17:03:00Z

Don't forget Stettin is nowadays Szczecin in Poland. That being said relations are much more relaxed than they were so it might be worth googling up Szczecin and seeing if they have a contact number for information. It was a place which was well fought over in the last days of WW2 but not all records disappeared. Good luck.

Re: Grave Search- Conradi SCHERRER & Elisabethae FISCHER SCHERRER

shirleyhazelwood54 — 2012-01-29 19:08:20Z

Yes, that is very helpful! Thanks!! I knew that the actual burials spots are changed but was wondering if I could find out where they died. I am presuming they died in that same place but have no proof. I am also looking for a record of their son, Bernardus b. 13 March 1868. I have only found his birth record over there so far.

Thanks again, Shirley

Re: Grave Search- Conradi SCHERRER & Elisabethae FISCHER SCHERRER

anderlander — 2012-01-29 13:14:46Z

Hello Shirley,

the marriage record is filmed by LDS. The infos available online are:
Batchnumber: M99190-4
Groom's Name: Conradum Scherrer
Bride's Name: Mariam Elisbetham Fischer
Marriage Date: 03 Jul 1865
Marriage Place: Roemisch-Katholische,Hoerdt,Pfalz,Bavaria

About Hoerdt:
Since end of WWII the district 'Pfalz' is no longer an area of Bavaria, since then its in Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate).

About graves in Germany:
Graves are usually rented for a certain period of time, maybe 15 to 40 years. The length of time that a grave can be 'leased' varies from place to place in Germany. So don't be surprised to discover that you cannot find the grave
of an ancestor or other family member, even if that person is known to have died and been buried there.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards
Bea