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Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 9:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Williams
I have discovered a possible entry of a missing ancestor on a U.S. Naturalisation Record Index for the Court District of New York, bearing only his name and 2 numbers, one with 6 digits and the other with 3.
Can anyone tell me if I can use these numbers to probe for more information? If so, how?

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 9:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Jul 2012 9:30PM GMT
If you are using ancestry.com read the tips and help section.. this one is for the records u are asking about .

http://www.ancestry.com/cs/Satellite?c=Learning_C&childp...

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 1 Aug 2012 4:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
The number you want is the Petition number. Use it to order the naturalization docs online (NARA website) or to go to the National Archives for New York and get them in person. The latter is cheaper if you don't count travel costs.

The petition number is the 6 digit one.

Cyndi

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 1 Aug 2012 7:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Since there is no entity called " the Court District of New York" could you share the name of your target and the location of this record so that you might get a response to your query that is more than conjecture.

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 2 Aug 2012 8:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Williams
Hi Everyone,
Thanks so much for all your help.
The card came up in Ancestry's U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project). The original card itself simply states the name- Williams, Roland - on the top left hand corner. Then on the top right corner is the number 239589 with a shorter number, 407, below that. I now see that the record details above the card image read "New York>Index 1917-1950 Declarations of Intention, U.S. District Court,Southern Dist of New York,M1675>Williams,Agatha to Wootton,Frank(1928-1940)>227"
Warm regards from Scotland

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 2 Aug 2012 2:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
That is not the petition number for this individual for 2 reasons:
1) Here is petition # 239589 for the US Court -Southern District of NY
http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1554&pa...=

2) The data base is titled "Declaration of Intention."
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It is most likely the Declaration of Intention file number.

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 2 Aug 2012 3:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
I agree with Bob. It's the declaration of intent, not the naturalization. So wrong number. Chances are the naturalization is in the same court and they can look it up for you. The numbers you have may be useful (I'm not sure) as they are probably tied together. But note that if your family member moved after filing intent but before filing the petition to naturalize, it could be in a different court.

Cyndi

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 2 Aug 2012 4:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Do you have any personal information about your target, e.g.:
birth place
birth date
immigration data
census data

that might allow him to be separated from others with the same name?

Re: Help- How do I probe beyond a Naturalisation Index Record

Posted: 2 Aug 2012 4:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Williams
Thanks BobNY
My target is my grandmother's brother, my great uncle, Rowland (possibly later spelled Roland)Williams born in Glasgow on 28th May 1888. He vanished from Scotland around 1910ish and was never heard of again, although my great grandmother put an advert in an American newspaper every year searching for him right up until her death in the 1950s.
I much appreciate all your help.
Liz from Glasgow
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