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Elusive passenger Manifest

Elusive passenger Manifest

Posted: 29 Mar 2012 10:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Mar 2012 10:18PM GMT
Surnames: Abrahamson
Not sure if this is the correct board, but I am looking for a passenger list of a family, and I have found the Ancestry index page(with the individual link to the ship manifest)for both parents but cant seem to find the two children.

There names are, as listed in the index for the manifest:
MS Helen birth abt 1898, age 7, Female
Mr.Jack birth abt 1902, age 3, male
But on the manifest is written:
Miss Helen and Master Jack.
There are no last names given,and their parents are written
right above them, there are no "", denoting repeating the fathers last name,
they are Hugo Abrahamson age 43
Mrs Berth(a) "" age 32
They are US Citizen's and were living in Oakland,California.

Arrival Date: 20 Jan 1905
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Konig Albert

I've checked with many variables,and can't seem to find the 2 children even though the parents are listed.
I would appreciate if someone could help find Helen and Jack. I don't know why it wouldn't be indexed.
Thanks for any assistance offered.
Brian

Re: Elusive passenger Manifest

Posted: 29 Mar 2012 11:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
There are a great many database items, especially where indexes were created via OCR software, that omit persons - especially where a surname is not specifically written out in an original. This happens in City Directories where there are just ditto marks (") to indicate same surname, for instance.

There is no way to add omitted persons via the alternate-suggestions method.

Re: Elusive passenger Manifest

Posted: 30 Mar 2012 3:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, but with respect,
I'm not looking to add anything, I'm trying to find the 2 children's passenger manifest, Their names,as I explained previously,aren't coming up in a search, I found the same page they and their parents are listed on, but I cant find the indexing page to link to the children.
There's not even ditto marks (") for the last name and I know they "should" be, hopefully.
Thanks for the help.

Found Passenger Manifest, can't find Ancestry.com extract entries

Posted: 30 Mar 2012 4:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
What you found ~was~ the passenger manifest.

What is missing is the purported "record" page (Ancestry.com extract from the actual record) for each child.

However, if you go to the image of the Manifest, the children are listed in the row of names listed. Highlight the name you want to save the record citation to and use the save button at top right. You can then select who in your tree you want to save the record to. If the children had not been listed, you still could save the record citation from one of the parents to each child, and at least have the citation to the right document saved to their tree entries.

Re: Elusive passenger Manifest

Posted: 30 Mar 2012 6:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Mar 2012 6:42PM GMT
Helen:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=...=

Jack:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=...=

Located these thru "Old Search" filling in only the birth year; sex; ports of departure and arrival; name of ship and exact year of arrival.

Virginia

Re: Elusive passenger Manifest

Posted: 30 Mar 2012 8:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks Virginia,
Found with no names, I would have never thought of that!
I posted this hoping someone knew some tricks to finding them, apparently you did!
Thanks again and take care,
Brian

Re: Elusive Ancestry.com extracts of passenger Manifest

Posted: 31 Mar 2012 12:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Mar 2012 12:29AM GMT
That's funny - could not find the Ancestry.com extracts that way, but I used NewSearch . . . .
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