New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
I have 4 relatives that I know for sure were on the Marine Jumper, 28 May 1949. I have been unable to locate their names in the index for the New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957. I have now determined why they are not in the index.
The microfilm for this ship is for the crew and employees only. I then went to the month of May 1949 for this database. I checked a sampling of the ships and all images were for the crew and employees only. There were no passengers on the lists digitalized. The sampling I did was to go to the first ship for each day of the month of May in 1949 and checked the images. For all 31 days of May I checked 1 ship manifest and for each one the images are for the crew and employees only.
I did not check other months in 1949 or any other year so I don't know how many months or years are missing the passengers.
I contacted Tech Support about this and have not received a reply yet.
Kathy
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
I found the same problem with the General CC Ballou that arrived in NYC on 17 June 1949.
I too called Tech Support but no fix to the problem
Tom
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
Hi Kathy My parents and I were aboard the SS Marine Jumper and arrived 28 May 1949 (my birthday) to New York. We then flew to California. First to Santa Paula to be processed, then to Los Angeles. We were Armenian displaced person's (DP's)from Stuttgart Germany. I did find some DP info during that period and I really believe one of the pics in my father. If there is anything I can help you with, please contact me at lisawinfield@hughes.netGood luck
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
Copies of the missing ship manifests can be obtained from two other sources including the international tracing Service (ITS) in Bad Arolsen, Germany.
I was able to find the mssing copy of my father's arrival in New York in June 1949.
Tom S.
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
Hi
I'm having a similar problem with a ship originating from Naples and Genoa Italy in August 1949...there are only crew lists and not passengers. Can anyone help locate the missing passenger lists?
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
You can go on-line and request a copy of the ship manifest by contacting either the International tracing Service (ITS) in Bad Arolsen, Germany, or the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC.
I know that both archives have copies of the original manifests since I have done on-site research at both places.
Which ship is the one missing the passenger data?
Tom S.
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
Hi Tom,
Thanks so much for the info. The ship was named "Atlantic" and, I believe, was first launched that year in 1949.
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It looks like the SS Atlantic was a cruise ship back in 1949 so the two sources I gave you may not have information about the passengers since they were not displaced persons (DPs).
Here's some more information about the ship that someone else posted:
The S.S. Atlantic began life as the S.S. Malolo in 1926 , making trips mainly to the Hawaiian islands. In 1937 she was rebuilt and relaunched as the Matsonia, sailing between San Francisco and Honolulu until 1941. She was converted to a troop-ship and was set to head for the Phillipines, but the invasion of Pearl Harbor forced her to turn back. She was used primarily as a troop and weaponry carrier for the duration of the war and then was decomissioned in 1946, and it is estimated that she transported over 176,000 persons, troops, war brides and civilians.
S.S. Matsonia was eventually sold to the Mediterranean Line ( a Panamanian subsidiary of the Home Lines) and was renamed the S.S. Atlantic. She was refitted at Genoa, Italy, departed on May 14, 1949 for her maiden voyage to New York City via Naples and Barcelona. This would have been where the restaurateur came into the picture – signing on as a waiter in the early 50s.
The back of the photo of my father above indicates that his trip was in Mid-May, 1953. This ties in with the recorded information which states that the Atlantic ran voyages after 1952 between Southampton, England and Canada.
In January, 1955, the Atlantic was tranferred to the National Hellenic Line (out of Greece). Am I the only one who thinks these ships really got around? It was renamed S.S. Vasilissa Friederiki for Queen Frederica. Only the English name ever appeared on her bow.
Below is a link to a video I discovered on YouTube under “Queen Frederica”.
Tom S.
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
Hi Tom,
Thank you so much for posting information on the S.S. Atlantic. It helps out a lot on my research. I did find out about that famous waiter--the owner of Le Cirque! Truly amazing story...
Anna
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Re: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957--some yrs have only the crews, not the passengers
I have the same issue with one of my relatives, Mykolas Cibas, Lithuanian DP. His docs have him on marine jumper on the may 28, 1949 date but he's definitely not on the 6 pages that are there for it. Thanks for the tip on securing the records. I'll write off to the addresses listed. Many thanks...
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