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Family History Book

dollhouse71252 — 2013-02-28 18:56:55Z

The Ballard-Carlisle County (KY) Historical and Genealogical Society is publishing Vol 2 of the Ballard-Carlisle County Family History Book. Anyone out there that originated from these two counties can submit their family history to be included. Visit the website at http://www.ballard-carlisle-ky-genealogy.com/ for detailed information. Questions can be directed at our website under "Contact Us". We are also on facebook under Ballard-Carlisle Historical and Genealogical Society.

TAYLOR, Abigail Ann

thefamilytodd — 2013-01-29 05:42:41Z

I am looking for the birth information on my ancestor born in 1786, in Rockbridge, Virginia. I have her year of death as 1857 in Rockbridge, Virginia. Father's name James Taylor and mother's name Mary. Spouse: John Alexander Tolley.

Re: "we will grow this collection weekly" (Neil Hibbert)

SoakedKarma — 2012-05-11 05:33:39Z

LMAO
(Oh, right! What paper?)
It's the fast food generation, quantity not quality.

Re: family data collection pay attention to dates.

SoakedKarma — 2012-05-11 05:01:07Z

LoL
being a newbie I for one see the quaking leaves and get excited. Just look at all the years of painstaking work that has been done, Just for me!

When on close examination I found 2 or more children born in the same year, or a parent b.1740 of a child b.1690 I know something is wrong with what I have imported. Duh, Whats with that?

Than I have 11 William, 5 Thomas, and a untold number of Sarah, Elizabeth, and Mary given names for the same surname.
tracing back to 1000 AD so far. It makes attaching documents to the correct individual tedious. Having the same given name over many generations sure has helped me to follow my line tho.

One thing that has helped me sort things out is to include the birth year in the Suffix box of the name line..
Helps me quickly identify to Whom I am attaching something to.. My old eyes easily pick out the the BOLD date following the Name in list view..

Duplicates caused me some problems when I first started if entered as a name or other variation. I found it hard to find the active individual in the tree.. I wish their was a way to merge individuals into one. beginning to sound like WFT eh.

I too was bothered by ancestors prior to 1776 being listed as born/living in USA but have found it impractical to try and sort out Virginia colony, Carolina colony etc. tho I do try to list the parish and such.

Just had to comment on your frustration as the cleanup of my own line has frustrated me..

Re: Viewer

dh_2000 — 2011-11-16 21:00:07Z

The only partial solution I've found is to click on the "save" button and you get the whole page. BUT that can be iffy for me too depending on what size image ends up being there since you can't resize it - too small and my old eyes have a hard time reading it.

Dianne

Re: family data collection pay attention to dates.

frostfreedet — 2011-04-18 17:00:34Z

Thomasker2 said:
"All census records [1790 – 1840] prior to the 1850 census ONLY listed the head of household; whether male or female.
. . .
NO place of birth was stated – city, state, or country"

--There are exceptions. Some of the Maine enumerations for 1810 stated County of birth of the head of household.

"NO occupation was stated"

--There are exceptions. The 1810 enumeration for Jefferson Co., (West) Virginia gave occupations, for example.

"NO race was stated [but assume “white”]"

--This is just incorrect. The 1790 through 1840 enumerations have some 'racial' designations such as 'black', 'free black', non-taxed Indians. Each enumeration varies as to category and whether age-ranges are given. The enumerations that count "slaves" should not be assumed to be listing just what the enumerator might perceive as African-Americans. And the enumerators' perceptions may or may not be the same as what a person today might say. Since there actually is no such thing as "race," and a variety of intermingling of various geographic ancestries' blood took place, physical appearance was and is not a very good guide to what those ancestries might be.

Re: family data collection pay attention to dates.

lulupackard — 2011-04-18 02:31:27Z

I believe the family data collection is made up of information extracted from user trees. Using it as a source is basically copying from a tree but in a different format.

I used to marvel at the crazy dates and mistakes, but now I just ignore the family data collection altogether.

Re: family data collection pay attention to dates.

belges101 — 2011-04-12 06:46:42Z

I completely agree. As a professional genealogist I have cleaned up so many trees because people see the quaking leaves and get excited or they link up with others that are (or seem to be) relatives and they almost always become a jumbled mess. I am all for people getting the genealogy bug and wanting to know more. I am also all for people doing the work themselves, but you cannot cut corners with family research. You can't look at a tree and accept it as truth. You have to get the records yourself. It is not a quick and easy process. It takes time and energy, and a family tree is NEVER done.

Re: family data collection pay attention to dates.

thomasker2 — 2011-04-09 18:43:36Z

Facts that should known about the early census records -
All census records [1790 – 1840] prior to the 1850 census ONLY listed the head of household; whether male or female.
NO specific age was stated for any family member
NO place of birth was stated – city, state, or country
NO city, town, or village is stated – only the county; however some census takers listed the township
NO street address was stated
NO marital status was stated – single, married, widowed, or divorced
NO family relationship was stated – brother, sister, cousin, son, daughter, wife, inlaw, etc…
NO occupation was stated
NO parental birthplaces are stated
NO race was stated [but assume “white”]

1850, 1860 & 1870 census records do not show family relationships, marital status or parental birthplaces.

Step children are not enumerated as “step” children
Adopted children are not enumerated as “adopted”
Grand children are not enumerated as “grand children”
Orphaned children were not enumerated as "orphan"

1850 is the 1st census that shows all family members

1880 is the 1st census that shows parental birthplaces +++

family data collection pay attention to dates.

MOOSEPIGG — 2011-04-09 17:06:24Z

i have noticed that many people do not read the family data collections they just save them to there tree, many people who have the same family members that i have, save records that say people are born in massachusetts in the 1580's that is not true, englishmen did not come to massachusetts until 1620. and another point when you fill in the data on people in your tree, you can not be born in the united states before 1776. You would be born in New England or other colonies not the United States

yearbooks assume birth date

bscheickfwc — 2011-03-26 01:14:28Z

I was browsing ancestry.com (through FTM) for my grandfater, just looking for others who looked at his records or yearbooks etc. I found a few year books from the U. of IL, when he was a professor, but the index listed him as 16 years old. I could comment on his name but not his age. It's like every yearbook is assumed to be a high school yearbook. If you read the image, he worked at teh school, and I know he was born decades earlier. How can we fix that index?

Similarly, when I see an index for directories or news clippings, they are often indexing a person not mentioned anywhere on the page. How can we edit this index? i can add a comment, but someone would have to drill to the image to read it.
Here is an example:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&dbid=1540&...

Drouin Collection

knitknotes — 2010-05-20 02:35:46Z

Is there a specific board or thread for help with the Drouin Collection? If so, I apologize for posting here.

http://search.ancestry.ca/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1110&iid...

This link gives me all of the left hand page, but only part of the first column on the right hand page. Is it possible to see more of the right hand page? Where do I click?

Thanks in advance.

ancestry.com & libraryancestry,com: identical "Stories, Memories & Histories"?

jane_sweet — 2010-01-27 17:42:13Z

RE: The Templeton & Allied Families" by Yolande Templeton Claque. I subscribe only to ancestry.ca and rely on libraryancestry.com for additional material. After discovering that the TEMPLETON book was available on ancestry.com, I checked the library version, only to discover that this title isn't listed. And, my search of "Stories, Memories & Histories" was redirected to "Family & Local Records." Is this typical? Perhaps I've just been naïve about ancestry.

Re: Family & Local Histories

gengrl — 2009-06-01 14:53:34Z

Thank you for your reply. When the "new" Family & Local Histories was launched it appeared that new items had ceased (but for city directories and updates to previously existing items). That was unacceptable. I did an analysis of all items launched in August and found this to be the case.

However, to Ancestry.com's credit, it appears that categorizatons have been reevaluated. As you have just noted, two recent additions of marriage indexes were added. I was really glad to see that because marriage indexes should fall under the U.S. Records category.

You also replied to one of my post on another message. Thank you for your interest and concern about subscribers.

Re: Meyers Orts Gazetteer for German locations via Ancestry online

TimMcCormack41 — 2008-11-14 18:09:11Z

Thanks BG. It was easy to find with your help. I hope you have equal success on your request.

TM

Re: Meyers Orts Gazetteer for German locations via Ancestry online

BGlassel5232 — 2008-11-14 06:04:16Z

Rule One: When you do actually locate Meyers Orts on Ancestry, bookmark it!

Try this: In Ancestry, go to Search, scroll down to Europe, then Germany, then look for the category "Maps, Atlases & Gazetteers".
Now scroll down [about 6 lines] to "Meyers Gazetteer of the German Empire." I don't know why using any of those terms as keywords doesn't result in finding Meyers!

Best of luck, BG

Re: Meyers Orts Gazetteer for German locations via Ancestry online

TimMcCormack41 — 2008-11-14 00:58:32Z

Hello B.G.

Sorry I cannot help you but maybe you can help me. I came upon the Meyers Orts Gazetteer quite by accident while online with ancestry.com. I am a member. However, I can't find my way back to it now that I need to use it. Could you give me the directions from their homepage how to find it? I've tried to ask Ancestry.com, but that effort has been fruitless.

Thanks, TM

Please fix incorrect DB categorizations

gengrl — 2008-11-07 18:07:43Z

These databases should be part of the US Collection, yet they have been categorized as World content. These sources should NOT require a World subscription. Please FIX this asap.

History of Illinois - added 10/13/2008
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=Booklist&dbid=325...

Major-General Richard Montgomery / American History Magazine - added 11/06/2008
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=Booklist&dbid=326...

Re: Meyers Orts Gazetteer for German locations via Ancestry online

WNiermannWehdem — 2008-07-28 07:50:45Z

I do not know where you can find volume III at the Internet but you can find these books as photoreprints:
Meyers Orts- und Verkehrs-Lexikon
des Deutschen Reichs
Raymond S. Wright III
( Appendix to Volume II (originally published as part of Volume II ), Leipzig 1913.
Volume III:
Supplement published September 1913.
Reprint together as Volume II of Meyers
Orts- und Verkehrs-Lexikon des Deutschen Reichs
by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.Baltimore,
Maryland 2000.
Printed in America.
Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number 99-85938
ISBN 0-8063-1631-4 (set)
ISBN 0-8063-1637-3 (Volume III)
Hope this will help?
Wilhelm

Meyers Orts Gazetteer for German locations via Ancestry online

BGlassel5232 — 2008-07-27 16:53:16Z

I have figured out how to access the Meyers Orts und Verkehrs Lexicon Gazetteer [online via Ancestry], which is used to locate & expand information on place names in 1912 Germany. Ancestry's version is quite clear, although it is in German script. Good practice for me, a beginning student of German.

After I find a location, and print out a copy, I can interpret the abbreviations fairly well with the help of Wendy Uncapher's and Larry Jensen's books. But they advise genealogists to also check Meyers' 3rd Volume for the same location. They say added information may exist in Vol. III for any location, possibly with some corrections.

Can anybody explain to me how, or even if, I can access Volume III, via Ancestry? If there is an explanation on the Ancestry site, I have not been able to find it.

Thanks for any suggestions, BG

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

mbmjlm — 2007-10-30 15:16:16Z

Lisa with TGN has helped again. There were three more records that I had found and thought should be included in US Records. These were "Germans in Colonial Georgia" and two "Swedish in Delaware" records. These have now been corrected thanks to Lisa. It is so great when someone at Ancestry really cares about we subscribers.

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

mbmjlm — 2007-10-25 14:27:35Z

Actually I think we both had something to do with and thanks to Lisa it is done. I found another in Louisiana and pointed that one out as well. One problem I see is that when we find a book that we think should be in the US collection, there is no way to tell because we do not have access to even a description. By the way, they were right in that there was a "technical problem" but make that a "tech" problam because Lisa said it was human error. Someone clicked the wrong check mark and did not go back to see if it was in the right place.

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

makz3d — 2007-10-25 13:35:20Z

I got another reply from Ancestry Support. Boy are they a joke.

One line:

"I think that it may be a technical issue so please call in 1-800-262-3787 thanks."

Then the standard "If I may be of some help" type line.

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are NOW in US Records Collection

makz3d — 2007-10-25 13:21:39Z

Thank you mbmjlm as it seems you had something to do with getting this corrected.

I received two emails from Lisa about this matter. The books are now included in the US Records Collection.

Yesterday morning I went to the books and they were still in the World Records Collection. Just before noon (EST) yesterday I emailed Ancestry Support and again told them the books were in the wrong Collection and gave them the information on the books.

Thanks also to Lisa.

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

mbmjlm — 2007-10-24 23:43:14Z

Lisa with The Generations Network has fixed these two books which were placed in the wrong collection. This has not been corrected thanks to Lisa.

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

mbmjlm — 2007-10-24 15:50:13Z

It is quite clear that Ancestry has no intention of putting the books in the right collection. The aim is to generate more money from subscribers.

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

makz3d — 2007-10-24 15:47:59Z

Got a reply from Ancestry.

They wanted to know how I got to either of the books to search.

I was very clear that the books are in the wrong collection and their answer is to ask how did I find the books.

No surprise to me. I did think they would give me the whole spiel on "How to Search Ancestry's Databases" though.

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

makz3d — 2007-10-19 01:31:54Z

I'm quite familiar with the baloney from Ancestry. I'll just send them this paragraph after they tell me "how to search"

"BOOK: New Homes in a New Land: German Immigration to Texas, 1847-1861 by Ethel H. Geue; Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1970, reprinted 1999. A sequel to A New Land Beckoned, listed just above, this book contains the names of 5,600 German immigrants taken from 105 passenger lists. The person's age, place of residence in Europe, and dates of departure and arrival are given, along with the Texas county the immigrant settled in. This book is presently out of print, but can be found at many libraries."

Re: 2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

mbmjlm — 2007-10-18 16:16:55Z

They will just tell you what they told me-which is a lot of baloney. They said if the records were gathered from German sources they belong in World Records. Of course, there is no way for anyone to tell where the sources come from. As far as I am concerned they are telling a big fat story here. They tried to pull this last year. It's all about trying to push all subscribers into the more expensive records. Ultimately, I think it will turn around and bite them for pulling these kinds of stunts.

2 books about Germans in Texas are World Records Collection instead of US Records

makz3d — 2007-10-18 15:07:04Z

A New Land Beckoned: German Immigration to Texas, 1847-1861
A New Land Beckoned: German Immigration to Texas, 1844-1847

These 2 books about Texas and includes a list of the Germans that went to Texas. To view any pages in these books one must subscribe to the World Records Collection.

Please note that these 2 books about Germans in Texas should be available to subscribers to the US Records instead of the World Records Collection.

I have been trying to contact Ancestry already about these 2 books in the wrong collection but I can not get my email to go through.

Searching by author

Susan_Gomez — 2006-11-17 20:43:24Z

I have been trying to find a volume which I had been able to access when I had the Family & Local History subscription through Genealogy.com (also supplied by Heritage Quest). I cannot seem to find it in the Ancestry.com FLH database. Is there a way to search by the author? I have tried searching by keyword but am not getting results that make any sense.

Re: Missing images

2006-08-03 16:06:32Z

Please post this on the ancestry.com comments board and their improvements page.

Others have to read this.

Databases in wrong collection

ChrisHankins21 — 2006-06-24 18:33:35Z

On 9/13 I sent an email to Ancestry support, pointing out that two databases released on that day were incorrectly added to the Family & Local Histories Collection when they should have been added to the U.S. Records Collection.

(Abstracts of Ripley County, Indiana wills, December 1931 to November 1944) and (Ross County, Ohio marriage records)

The U.S. Records Collection clearly states that it includes:
• U.S. Federal Census Indexes
• Social Security Death Index
• Birth, Marriage and Death Records ***
• Military Records
• Slave Narratives
• Court, land and probate records ***
• Regional histories
• City directories

As of today, these databases are still incorrectly cataloged. When will these databases be corrected?

Re: Databases in wrong collection

ludlowbaylive — 2006-02-18 03:04:17Z

We apologize for any confusion on this subject. It would appear that
these databases would be better suited US Records, you are correct. And
we will certainly pass this on as a suggestion for improvement to our
programming department. The response that has come to us from the
Marketing Department when we have inquired about these matters is that
any material which has been published by professional genealogists will
be added to Family and Local Histories.

If there is anything else we can assist you with, please let us know.

Jason
Customer Solutions
Ancestry.com

MORE databases in wrong (FHL) collection

ludlowbaylive — 2006-02-18 03:04:17Z

Re: MORE databases in wrong (FHL) collection

ludlowbaylive — 2006-02-18 03:04:17Z

And yet another month, and still counting. I first advised of this massive problem on 8 Nov 2004. Now, 4 months later, patrons are still being denied access to data that should be in the US Records Collection but is only available by a separate subscription to Family & Local Histories. What stinks here, Ancestry?

Re: MORE databases in wrong (FHL) collection

ludlowbaylive — 2006-02-18 03:04:17Z

And yet another month has passed without any resolution to the dozens of databases incorrectly posted to the FHL collection instead of the US Records Collection .....

What say ye, N. Hibbert?

another database misfiled

ludlowbaylive — 2006-02-18 03:04:17Z

The newly posted "Illinois Cemetery Records" ( http://www.ancestry.com/rx/content.asp?htx=BookList&dbid... )has been "accidentally" filed in Family & Local Histories rather than in the Birth, Marriage & Death category.

New Ancestry Database

ludlowbaylive — 2006-02-18 03:04:17Z

Today Ancestry posted their "U.S. Veterans Cemeteries, ca.1800-2004" database in the subscription-only US Records Collection:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8750

The same data, with nearly identical (*) search options, is available free from the Veterans Administration website:

http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1

(*) Ancestry has surname soundex, VA has surname-given-middle names "starts with".

If someone can explain how or what Ancestry has value-added to allow them to charge for access, I would be interested to know the explanation.

Re: Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal

pabbott0071 — 2005-12-19 23:10:04Z

I just did a search on the surname Cartledge and found 208 matches on 79 different volumes. I browsed through the images and I was able to see all the images I selected. This new collection is working great! I love it.

Re: US Records items now under Family History

pabbott0071 — 2005-12-19 23:10:04Z

We have thousands of the 20+ thousand records in the F&LH collection that have dual access to the US Records collection. If someone is new to the site and want to access one of these "dual subbed" records, they will first be offered a subscription to the F&LH collection. If they skip the F&LH offer and end purchasing a US Records sub, they will still get access to the dual access records.

Re: I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ROD