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Military Uniform Minnesota 1880s

bnjhesse — 2013-05-05 01:15:17Z

Hi

I'm researching my husband's great grandfather Johannes (John) HESSE from Birkenbringhausen, Germany - migrated to Australia 1861.

Family still in Germany have given me a copy of a photo taken by E. Thibodeau, No 28 Nicollet Island, Minneapolis. They thought this was John in an Australian military uniform - which it isn't - nothing so splendid here. Thibodeau was a photographer in Minnesota from 1880s to 1919. I think this is quite early.

I believe the gentleman in the photo is another brother - probably Carl/Charles HESSE (pencilled name on reverse is Chas Hesse).

Can anyone identify the uniform he is wearing.

Regards

Julie
Canberra, Australia

Re: Frank Neece, US Air Force, Mildenhall, Suffolk, UK, 1958/59, Cherokee Indian

oastwd — 2013-03-18 22:17:37Z

Try the family tracing service offered by this non profit. There are family relationships that must be met to qualify for the service:

http://reunite.com/salvation-army-reunites-families/

If Frank was a member of the Cherokee Nation he is most likely from the state of Oklahoma.

You might consider posting on the Cherokee Nation Boards:

http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.chero...

or you could try contacting the Nation to see if they might be able to forward a message to Frank Neece if he is registered with the Nation:

http://www.cherokee.org/AboutTheNation/Culture/Default.aspx

Re: Any civilian records of deaths in military (1892)?

northwestpioneer — 2013-03-18 21:45:52Z

Thanks for the leads. I did find an online reference to him in the graduates of West Point.

Re: Any civilian records of deaths in military (1892)?

irishgen2009 — 2013-03-18 19:40:23Z

The US Archives in Washington DC has the paper records for Regular Army officers serving in the years from 1789 through 1917. see http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2002/fall/mili...

For an officer's military service after 1863, consult the Commission Branch (CB) and Appointment, Commission and Personal Branch (ACP) records, both found in RG 94, entry 297, Letters Received, 1863–1894. There is a card index arranged by name of officer for each of these files.

Use google to locate Heitman's Historical Register and Dictionary of the United States Army (1903) vol 1 page 313 lists

Charles Herschell Cochran, Ohio, Cadet MA July 1878 (38) 2 lt 7 inf 13 Jun 1883; 1 lt 20 Feb 1891, died 29 Sep 1892

usgenweb says colorado started death certs in 1907

Re: Question Re: Military Record

LSmithPA — 2013-03-16 23:34:38Z

Thanks!

Re: Question Re: Military Record

infosending1 — 2013-03-14 04:23:31Z

RA = Regular Army

ERA = Enlisted Reserve Corps

NG = National Guard

RA Res. = Regular Army Reserve

Re: Headstone Application Look-Up Request

jmchristel — 2013-03-07 12:57:23Z

Thank you! I'll check it out :)

Re: Headstone Application Look-Up Request

BlondiNativeAme3 — 2013-03-07 05:23:19Z

You can also go to www.findagrave.com His Memorial is #97115876. There is no photo available on the memorial but you can ask the creator of his cemetery record if he might take a photo for you and/or transfer management of Richard Joseph Schuster's memorial to you.

Annmarie

Re: Headstone Application Look-Up Request

cabot_blue — 2013-03-06 14:32:02Z

Info from the application: Army Private Richard J. Schuster was born Nov. 21, 1889 and died Jan. 20. 1955. He enlisted in the Army July 30, 1918, and was discharged honorably Dec. 12, 1918. His unit of assignment was Company M, 2nd Battalion, CWS.
He is listed as being of the Christian faith, with a flat granite marker for a headstone. Schuster's remains rest in the Gate of Heaven Cemetery in Hanover Heights, N.J.

Having spent nearly six months in the military at the end of WWI, there is a chance he did not go overseas, but spent his time in training. I'm not sure what the CWS part of his unit designation means.

Re: Headstone Application Look-Up Request

jmchristel — 2013-03-06 04:07:55Z

Thank you so much for this. I really appreciate it. :)

Headstone Application Look-Up Request

jmchristel — 2013-03-05 19:40:54Z

Hi all,
I was wondering if someone could do me a HUGE favor and look up my great grand uncle. I see there are two possible listings for him in "U.S., Headstone Applications for Military Veterans, 1925-1963", but I've already used up my free trial and can't afford to purchase a membership at this time.
His name is Richard Joseph Schuster (born 1889), and he is from New Jersey and died in either 1955 or 1960. Any help would be very greatly appreciated. My grandfather, his nephew, had told me when I was a kid that Richard had served during World War I, and I'm very curious to know more about what he did.
Thank you in advance!

Re: Question Re: Military Record

LSmithPA — 2013-03-01 21:55:15Z

Thank you so much for your help. I do appreciate it.

Joliet illinois, can you help identify this WW2 soldier ?

lenann1967 — 2013-03-01 18:14:58Z

This picture of a WW2 soldier was found in a box of pictures belonging to my grandparents. He, most likely, is a close family friend of John & Mary Majetich of Joliet, Illinois.
My grandparents lived on N. Hickory St, Joliet, Illinois.
His first name is Johnny and there is no last name listed on any of his pictures and know one now knows who he is. The picture is dated December 2, 1943.
If anyone recognizes him or knows what family he was associated with, your help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Question Re: Military Record

irishgen2009 — 2013-03-01 16:27:22Z

I would not be surprised to learn a young man from Florida traveled up the Mississippi in 1915 to enlist at Missouri.

Wikipedia has an article on the 22nd Infantry regiment US Army that describes their service in World War I guarding the ports of NYC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22nd_Infantry_Regiment_%28Unite...

The US Army Heritage & Education Center is another place to search for information.

http://www.carlisle.army.mil/ahec
search for 22nd infantry regiment 1917 and it provides a book that looks interesting
Guarding the border: military memoirs 1912-1917

Good luck with your research.

length of service

schwartzd25 — 2013-03-01 02:50:45Z

what happens when you have proof that his service record has wrong amount of time we have document that states him in slocum new york in dec 28 1937or fort slocum on nov 24 1937 as hospital orderly but nara said they have no records of that time serve what can i do to show them these papers to update this na form 13038 which has wrong length of duty.this was his enlisted record.with a 25.00 bonus to resign has his finger print on it.still looking for his military uniform when in hawaii in 1940 with hospital station detachment in army barracks at scoefield.

Re: VA NUMBER?

BlondiNativeAme3 — 2013-02-27 16:06:39Z

Yes it is. You check off the box on the form: record is wanted for genealogy/family tree. In 2005 I sent for my deceased grandfather's records from WW II. Because of the fire at the records office, they did send me a certificate with the basic information, which, to me was great as it was at least a record for my family tree. What was really nice was in 2007 I received my grandfather's WW II medal & ribbon from the Army because the Military Archives discovered he never got them at his discharge. The web site is: https://vetrecs.archives.gov/VeteransRequest - Mail signature page to: NPRC WEB; 9700 Page Avenue; St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100; FAX: (314)801-9049. You can mail or FAX the signature page. Customer Service Number: (314)801-0800. The record/records come by U.S. Postal Service and took about 2 weeks.

Annmarie

Re: VA NUMBER?

gwgjfran — 2013-02-26 06:29:51Z

Yes, you can even do it over the net. However, if your ancestor was in WWII, most of those records burned in a fire in St. Louis, MO. I can't remember the name of the site, but I would try to Google Service Records of WWII Veterans, Try Variations on that. Records of Vets from Korean War to the present will not be available at this time. They just released WWII records last year. By the way if it is a WWII Record you need, then they will try to reconstruct the records. I spent $60 to find out the 3 times my Dad had a cold, a sinus infection, and Bronchitis. I didn't learn where or when. It was very frustrating. If you live West of the MS River, you will need to go to the St. Louis, MO address. I think Records east of the MS River, I think you looking for Washington, DC.

This is all I remember except it was incredibly frustrating. You can make your request on the net, but you'll have to wait for snail mail to get your records.

I hope this helps. Sorry I can't remember more.
Glenda Tolbert France

VA NUMBER?

marylynblood — 2013-02-25 20:00:21Z

IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A STEP DAUGHTER TO GET A VA NUMBER OF A PERSON THAT HAS PASSED AWAY? IF SO HOW?

Old bracelet from 1927 - name" Joe Hacker"

rickwomack192 — 2013-02-23 05:18:15Z

My cousin has an old bracelet (see picture attached) with the name Joe Hacker date 1927 and Air Corps USA Flying Cadet with what appears to be a service number on the back.

He found this among his grandmother's effects (she lived in Oklahoma) but does not know who Joe Hacker is. Any help identifying his family would be appreciated.

Question Re: Military Record

LSmithPA — 2013-02-12 23:57:43Z

Can someone explain a few things about this military record?

What can you tell me about this record? looks like he was in company m 22 infantry, but i can't seem to find that company. Perhaps, I'm just not understanding it.

What does RA mean under enlistment? I see it under discharge too.

Is it normal for someone who resided in Florida to enlist in Missouri?

I appreciate any help you can provide me with.

Re: Frederick Laureion - US Army Enlistment Lookup

ERhodes1135 — 2013-01-15 02:29:32Z

Hopefully your address is still the same. I sent a copy of his record. He is the third person listed. Don

Re: Frederick Laureion - US Army Enlistment Lookup

infosending1 — 2013-01-15 00:48:01Z

Well pad it out a bit, which war/time period ?, and decide on the correct surname spelling.

Any civilian records of deaths in military (1892)?

northwestpioneer — 2012-12-20 20:35:33Z

Lt. Charles H. Cochran died at Fort Logan, Colorado around Sept. 29, 1892 from typhoid fever. Would the only records of his death be with the military or would civilian authorities also have records? I assume any records for this time period would be with NARA, but I did not see any relevant listings in their microfilms online. And, it may be too early for civilian records as well.

I found his death location and cause from a newspaper article which I placed on his Find A Grave memorial here:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=61...

He was serving at Fort Omaha in Nebraska immediately prior to his death and was transferred to Fort Logan, CO about a month before his death according to another newspaper article. He was a West Point graduate, class of 1883, serving in the 7th Infantry.

Finding Robert Altman

aasgeirsdottir — 2012-12-11 22:57:49Z

Thank you for taking the time to read this !

I am searching for Robert Altman, any piece of information would be greatly appreciated.

I know that he was born in 1958 (could have been 1957), and most likely he was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I know that he was/is military, but do not know what branch.

I do not even have first or last names of parents.

Re: Abbreviations in US Register of Enlistments 1798-1914

cliona126 — 2012-10-25 22:13:17Z

Thank you very much for your most helpful reply. I hadn't checked for his personnel records - I'm quite green when it comes to researching in the USA - but I will certainly follow your leads. Thanks again,
Cliona

Re: "Reconstructed" military records from the archives

snreilly18 — 2012-10-24 16:19:05Z

Thank you!

Re: Abbreviations in US Register of Enlistments 1798-1914

ycaso77 — 2012-10-24 16:05:05Z

It could be a reference to a page and volume in the Provost's Department records. They were the military's police and prison departments. Have you checked with the Old Records Division to see if they have his personnel records? If they still survive they would most likely have the records included.

Textual Archives Services Division
Washington, DC 20408

http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/pr...

Re: "Reconstructed" military records from the archives

ycaso77 — 2012-10-24 15:49:29Z

I've had reconstructed records come with a single previous request for reissue of medals and a VA hospital request for transfer of medals. Then again I had one for another family member that had quite a bit of info from morning reports, hospital reports and some other forms. You'll never know until you spend the 25.00, but I would take the chance just to be sure all the bases for any information were covered.

Abbreviations in US Register of Enlistments 1798-1914

cliona126 — 2012-10-23 18:27:54Z

I've found a record for Michael J. Harding, b. 1865 Ireland in the U.S. Army Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914.

The record seems to read:

21st Inf, D [Battallion and Company, I assume]
Des March 28 '89 [Deserted, I assume]
Surr'd September 27 1890 [Surrendered, I assume]
Did not surrender see 479/15 PRD 1891

The meaning of the first 3 lines seems clear enough, but I have no idea what the notation 'see 479/15 PRD 1891' means. Does 479/15 refer to another set of records? I have checked entry 479 of 1891 in this set of records and it is not relevant.
The record in question is on page 470 of the Register for 1885-1890 A-D. Any help greatly appreciated. Cliona

American Military, England, MAY/ JUNE 1948.(Berlin Airlift)

forbes178 — 2012-10-22 07:46:25Z

I am looking for any information about American Military who would have been in England (may be the surrounding Oxfordshire area's) during MAY/JUNE of 1948.Just before the Berlin Airlift(June 1948)I am led to believe my biological Father was an American Serviceman Known as (Ted) BONNY/to include variations of the spelling for this Surname...)....My Birth Surname was Spriggs...If anyone knows or could tell me who or where I could contact to find out any of the above Information... I would be very grateful.
Thank you very much in advance for any help i receive.

"Reconstructed" military records from the archives

snreilly18 — 2012-10-18 20:26:50Z

I am wondering if anyone can tell me if it is worth the $25 to get the "reconstructed" military records of my husband's grandfather. I got a letter in today that said his records were distroyed in the fire of 1973 but that they had a "reconstructed" file in his name. It then went on to say that it might not contain many military documents and that it might contain previous requests for his records. I cannot go to St. Louis to view them myself and am wondering if anybody else has gotten these "reconstructed" records. It's the previous requests that has me interested because my husband's grandfather had a daughter and we don't know if she is still alive or how to find her and if she tried to get his records at one time then that letter would be in this file. Would this be worth the $25 dollars to get it? Thanks in advance.

N.Y.S.A. Governor's Guard - What was this outfit?

JanetLWood — 2012-10-16 01:27:10Z

Need help in better understanding what the reference means to someone belonging to the N.Y.S.A Governor's Guard, Company D, Second Regiment. They are referred to as Lieut Thomas James Wood. The year is 1845 and a group of gentleman are having and annual soiree!!

Thanks in advance

Buffalo Soldiers records now available to be searched

annafechter — 2012-10-11 06:18:57Z

Today we released the U.S., Buffalo Soldiers, Returns From Regular Army Caval
ry Regiments, 1866-1916, http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1934, to be searched on Ancestry.com. The records were keyed by contributors to the World Archives Project so searching the index is free.

After the Civil War the US Congress authorized the formation of the 9th and 10th Cavalry of black soldiers, as well as four black infantry regiments. This database covers Returns from Military Posts for the 9th and 10th cavalry, covering the years 1866 through 1916, when these "Buffalo Soldiers" served mostly in Texas and the southwest, but also in Cuba and the Philippines.

Like other Military Returns databases you will find information on these records that include soldiers' names, ranks, and the places and dates that they served.

Re: Key to Abbreviations in Marine Muster Rolls

PSpiegel — 2012-09-05 17:54:19Z

Hi boondock325,

It sure does--appreciate your taking the time to respond.

So, with everyone's help I now know that my original query "16, Jd fr RS Cincinnati, Ohio" means that on the 16th (Nov 1918, Harry Waechter,) joined from the Recruiting Station in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Thanks again for all the assistance!

Re: Key to Abbreviations in Marine Muster Rolls

boondock325 — 2012-09-05 15:44:32Z

jdfr = joined from
dtd = dated

Ive been looking for these as well. Hope this helps.

Re: Pennsylvania Veterans Burial Cards, 1777-1999

imblessedx3 — 2012-09-04 14:18:51Z

Thank you so much Don!

Re: Pennsylvania Veterans Burial Cards, 1777-1999

ERhodes1135 — 2012-09-04 14:01:12Z

He served in WW11 as a Lt in the Navy from 3/29/1943 to 12/14/1945. Cemetery - West Laurel Hill, Bala Gynwyd, Montgomery county, Pa. No grave site listed as he was cremated. Don

Re: Pennsylvania Veterans Burial Cards, 1777-1999

imblessedx3 — 2012-09-04 12:50:45Z

Would you mind doing just one more look up for me?

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=VeterBurialC&a...

Edward T Butler, born Nov 30, 1909 and died May 2, 1959.

Thank you so much!

Re: Pennsylvania Veterans Burial Cards, 1777-1999

imblessedx3 — 2012-09-03 21:52:41Z

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your help!

Re: Pennsylvania Veterans Burial Cards, 1777-1999

ERhodes1135 — 2012-09-03 14:44:53Z

His name William G Butler Jr, serial number O 918789, DOB 12-31-1911 and DOD 1-14-1960. A veteran of WW11, dates of service 10-23-43 to 10-25-43, a 2nd Lt in the Army T.C. (probably tank corps). Buried in Norwood cemetery in Philadelphis, Location of grave in cemetery is Birch section, lot 481, grave 3.

Pennsylvania Veterans Burial Cards, 1777-1999

imblessedx3 — 2012-09-03 12:46:29Z

Can someone look up a name for me within this database?

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=VeterBurialC&a...

William G Butler Jr. He was born in 1912 and died in 1960.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Can anyone identify this man?

MParsons427 — 2012-08-23 13:21:55Z

This man was found in a photo of my great grandmother's. He bears a striking resemblance to my grandmother, but "on paper" a man named Jim K. Watkins is her biological father.

This has been sort of a big unanswered question in my family. Any assistance would be more than helpful.

The man in the below picture is the "mystery man" and the woman is my grandmother Kathleen Watkins. She was born in Syracuse, NY..1 Jan 1943

Thank you.

Re: QMGME-C on .mil interment form

josephehealy — 2012-08-18 15:16:54Z

thanks allen

Re: QMGME-C on .mil interment form

ycaso77 — 2012-08-18 14:08:33Z

The QMGME is some type of notation by the Quartermaster Corps, they are in charge of graves registration in the Army. I've seen the same notation with different numbers on other Army burial records like this one at Fort Rosecrans-

Allen, Ernestine, b. 03/01/1932, d. 07/22/1960, Qmgme-C 610 Dtd 27 Jul 60, Plot: W 644, bur. 08/02/1960

Re: Key to Abbreviations in Marine Muster Rolls

PSpiegel — 2012-08-16 03:54:18Z

Don,

I appreciate the update. I'll make that change on Harry's record. Once again, thanks for your help.

Pat

Re: Key to Abbreviations in Marine Muster Rolls

ERhodes1135 — 2012-08-15 13:44:30Z

Pat. I thought about this a little more and think the RS might have meant Recruiting Station instead of residence. Don

Re: Key to Abbreviations in Marine Muster Rolls

PSpiegel — 2012-08-15 03:44:46Z

Don,
It makes perfect sense to me now. Thanks for taking the time to help me understand this.
Pat

Re: Key to Abbreviations in Marine Muster Rolls

ERhodes1135 — 2012-08-15 03:35:26Z

Am not an expert but your image is 245 of 379, if you go back to image 243 you will see that this appears to be a list of new recruits. First column is name, second is date of enlistment and the third is remarks. You can see that he enlisted on 15 Nov 1918. I think the remarks indicated he reported for duty on the 16th of Nov and journeyed from his residence in Cincinnati. If you scroll further down the list you will see it was to Paris Island, SC which is one of the Marine Corps basic training bases. Hope this helps. Don

Key to Abbreviations in Marine Muster Rolls

PSpiegel — 2012-08-14 11:09:19Z

The following link goes to my ancestor: Harry John Waechter as he appears on the Marine Muster Rolls

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=...

I want to know the meaning of the following information in the "Remarks section:
"16, Jd fr RS Cincinnati, Ohio"

I've tried looking through the rolls for a key, checking the message boards and Googling but I'm unable to find a key for the abbreviations used in the "Remarks" section.

Hope someone can help me understand this.

QMGME-C on .mil interment form

josephehealy — 2012-08-13 18:53:00Z

On a 1956 internment form in the "Remarks (Authority for interment, pension, or claim number, disinterment, etc. ) the following phrase is there:

QMGME-C 260 11-5-56
(DB)(RE)(SR) verified by nok.

I know the 11-5-56 is the date of death. What does the rest mean?

Thanks...