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Re: 21st Alabama Infantry Regiment Company C

dmward45 — 2013-04-20 22:50:23Z

John Bunyan Fulford Company C Sgt. died 12-31-64

Re: Did John James O'Connell fight in the Civil War?

Badge3323 — 2013-03-26 21:33:59Z

With a name as common as John O'Connell, you're probably going to have a rough time with this, but I'll offer you a few suggestions. Presuming your fellow was a Confederate, there are two relatively straightforward research avenues. The first involves pensions. Confederate pensions were submitted to the state where a soldier lived when the pension application was filed, rather than the state where he lived when he enlisted or in whose regiment he served.

I don't know where your John O'Connell lived in old age, so I can't give you specific guidance about a particular state. At present the Confederate pension files of about half the Southern states are in Ancestry.com databases, either in full or in part. These include Texas, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia. The records for Virginia and Texas are in a database titled "U.S., Confederate Pensions 1884-1958" and may or may not be complete for those states. Alabama's records are also found in that same database, as well as in a separate database for Alabama only. All of the other states I mentioned are in databases that carry their state name.

I checked the Alabama database and did not find a John or James O'Connell. I also checked the 1907 & 1921 census of Confederate veterans for Alabama (a state census), and did not get a positive search result on John O'Connell. The same was true for Alabama's 1927 Questionnaires of Widows of Alabama Confederate Soldiers. To the best of my knowledge, Louisiana's Confederate pensions are not presently digitized.

Needless to say, the usefulness of a pension file in proving the military service of an ancestor derives from the biographical information found in the file. If the wife's name and residence data match the data you have for your ancestor, you learn the name of his regiment, and from that point you may discover wonderful details about his military experiences. Unfortunately, your ancestor or his wife may not have applied for a pension, or may have lived in a state other than Alabama, Texas, or Virginia (the only ones I checked) ... even if he served in the Confederate army, which is by no means certain at this point.

The other research avenue for Confederates involves an examination of the microfilmed (and now digitized) military service records of Confederate soldiers. These records will, in most cases, tell you where the soldier enlisted (e.g., Mobile, as opposed to Birmingham or Montgomery, in the case of Alabamians). That's useful because you can reasonably eliminate men from areas where you believe your ancestor did not live or work. The military records usually report a soldier's approximate age at the time of enlistment, as well. However, these records very rarely contain a proverbial "smoking gun" with which you can definitively establish identity. Their value as a search tool is mostly in helping to cull down the size of one's list of plausible candidates.

Beyond these obvious research avenues for Confederates, pickings get slim. Local newspapers might have published an obituary or post-war feature article in which your Confederate ancestor's unit was identified, but the chances of this aren't good, and you'll probably need to search locally where he lived during the later stages of his life ... e.g., his local hometown library or historical society. Some local newspapers are online, though, so you might have some luck in that area.

Universities also publish indexes to their historical collections, and sometimes one can find letters or documents related to an ancestor among the collections. And history books, particularly those prepared for the general mass market rather than schools, often mention common soldiers by name. In your case, though, that's a real longshot, as you don't yet know what battle or regiment to focus upon.

Another place for searching is the 40-year master index to Confederate Veteran magazine, a post-war publication in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The magazine was a monthly forum for old Rebel soldiers to reminisce about their adventures and keep up on reunions and memorials, and also to hear about the passing of old friends. Unfortunately, I checked the magazine's index for you and John O'Connell isn't one of the names mentioned. I've described the magazine here so that you'll know it's already been checked, and also for the benefit of others who may read this and be on a search similar to yours.

If your man was a Union soldier, the most obvious place to begin is in the Union pension index (there was a single white Union cavalry regiment from Alabama, along with a few African-American units). Browse the Union database looking at the various John O'Connells listed therein, and see if you find something that stands out ... a wife's name, preferably, or even a state of residence and submission date. The contents of the file won't be displayed online in most cases (only a small percentage of Union pensions have been digitized so far), but if you get a hot prospect, the physical file folder at the National Archives in DC may hold family information that matches what you already know. If that happens, mystery solved, mostly.

Most genealogy researchers know that the 1890 US census was destroyed by fire, but many people don't realize that there was a separate census in 1890 that polled Union veterans only. This 1890 Veterans Schedule did not burn and is one of Ancestry.com's census databases. The census asked for data about Union service only during the war, but I've seen a few instances in which Confederate data was improperly included, as well. So, if you know where your ancestor was living in 1890, check the 1890 Veterans Schedule and see if he's listed.

It's also possible that your fellow wasn't a state volunteer soldier during the Civil War, but instead was part of the standard, regular US Army ... the permanent force maintained by the Federal Government before, during, and after the Civil War. Soldiers from the regular army appear in the Civil War Union pension database if they served during the war years and eventually applied for a pension, but their names do not appear in the various databases that provide Civil War military histories and profiles.

The way to find a regular army ancestor, or at least to begin searching for him, is to check the US Army Register of Enlistments database (available on Ancestry.com). I did that in the case of John O'Connell, and found a lot of men by that name who were born in Ireland and who joined the army after arriving in the USA. Their approximate years of birth are stated in the database's search results, and I noted three men born in 1824 or 1825 (the only three between 1822 and 1829).

I don't think any of these three fellows is your guy, based on geography, but I suppopse they could be. Two were born in Cork and the other in Limerick. The Limerick fellow enlisted at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas in 1857, and the two fellows from Cork enlisted at Newport (state not listed) in 1850 and at Springfield, Massachusetts in 1851.

Finally, consider that the pistol and saber might have belonged to someone other than your ancestor. It would be useful to know whether the land in question was indeed owned by your ancestor in 1865. After all, if they're Civil War weapons the most likely reason why they'd have been buried behind the garage (which probably wasn't there in 1865) is that the former Rebel who owned them feared that his home might be searched by the occupying Yankees, who would then confiscate the weapons. If you know the specific real estate in question, searching the deed records for that property might move your investigation along, or might bring it to a merciful halt.

Of course, we shouldn't presume that these were Civil War weapons, either. What you described could have been in service during the 1840s, for example, or even the 1880s. Without having the weapons to inspect, the basic premise from which you're operating is a bit wispy.

In any case, the common nature of your ancestor's name makes this a very tough nut to crack unless you eventually locate a family legend that someone else has been handing down through their line, or an unexpected article or document mentions your ancestor's military service. The odds of either of these happening are not good, I'm afraid, but dare to hope! And good luck ... I fear you'll need it.

Re: Did John James O'Connell fight in the Civil War?

tanjiah — 2013-03-26 13:10:31Z

Kerry,

Thanks for taking the time to provide such a long and detailed response!

Unfortunately, John James O'Connell didn't live to old age; he died of dysentery in Mobile, AL at age 42 in 1872. His widow died in Mobile in 1914. John does not have a grave maker and had no obituary. His widow remarried in 1876. Her obituary mentions both husbands, but does not mention Civil War sevice. John's death certificate indicates that he was a resident of Mobile for 14 year prior to his death in 1872 (1858). He was married in New Orleans in 1859. 14 years was probaby an "estimate," but does suggest he was in AL sooner rather than later.

The land in question was owned by the oldest son of John James -- John James, Jr. The land was in Pensacola, FL. It is possible that the weapons were buried behind the garage by the previous owner. I just thought a little follow up was worthwhile since John was an able-bodied man in his mid-30's during the war.

The samll hand gun fired with a button was the Smith and Wesson Model 1, manufactured between 1857 and 1882.

I'll follow up on your suggestions before I give up. Thanks again!

Denise

Re: Oscar Johnston-Mobile Dragoons 1862-63

tanjiah — 2013-03-21 15:55:02Z

Alan,

I am intersted in finding out if my great, great grandfather, John James O'Connell, served with the Mobile Dragoons, or any other units formed in Mobile. Since this is such an old posting that I am responding to, I will send more information if you get this message. Thanks!

Denise

Did John James O'Connell fight in the Civil War?

tanjiah — 2013-03-21 15:31:34Z

I never heard any family stories about this, but a few days ago, I learned something that caused me to wonder. My mother's cousin told me that 70 years ago when he was a boy, he dug up a rough-hewn, hand-made box buried behind his grandfather's garage. In the box were a horse pistol, a saber, and a small handgun fired by a button. The first two weapons suggest a cavalry soldier or a dragoon.

John James O'Connell was born in Ireland in about 1825 and immigrated to New Orleans about 1850. He married there in 1859 and his first child was born there in about 1860. His next surviving child was born in Mobile in about 1864.

I've done a little research and understand that some recent Irish immigrants in New Orleans were forced into Confederate units, but often were unionists and crossed over to the Union if they got an opportunity. I also read that some Irish immigrants favored the Confederates becasue they saw the Union as being like their opprssive English overlords. So, John could have fought on either side. He also could have enlisted in either New Orleans or Mobile. There were even predominantly Irish units formed in both cities.

I did note that there was a unit from Mobile called the Mobile Dragoons and since the weapons suggest a mounted soldier, they seemed like a possibility. John's brother-in-law, Chistopher Foley, was a blacksmith and owned a forge in Mobile, so possibly John had access to a horse.

I would like to find out if John James O'Connell served in the Civil War. I looked at various databases in Ancestry and found some John's, but often there was not enough information to know if I had found the correct one. I would appreciate advice and assistance. Thank you so much!

Denise

Re: 40th Alabama

moorekr — 2013-03-11 14:58:24Z

Kerry,

Thank you so much for fleshing out T.J.'s records with the history of the 40th. It is much appreciated.

- Kevin

Re: 40th Alabama

Badge3323 — 2013-03-11 05:43:35Z

Pvt. T. J. Seymour enlisted into Company G of the 40th Alabama Infantry on 29 March 1862 in Pickens County, Alabama. All of the entries in his military record identify him as T. J. Seymour, except for one record that spells his name "Seymore." There is no indication whether the initials "T. J." stood for anything, and if they did, what his first and middle names might have been.

Following his March 1862 enlistment, Pvt. Seymour is shown on his company muster rolls as being present with the regiment for the remainder of 1862 and during the March-April period of 1863. There is no muster roll for Jan-Feb or May-Jun 1863, but the chances are exceedingly high that he was present with the regiment during those months, as well.

The 40th Alabama was part of the Confederate force defending Vicksburg during late 1862 and the first half of 1863. In that capacity it fought a few preliminary battles prior to the actual seige of Vicksburg (Chickasaw Bayou on 29 Dec 1862 and Fore's Plantation on 25 Mar 1863), and it was among the defenders of the city during U. S. Grant's famous seige of Vicksburg during May, June, and early July 1863.

T. J. Seymour was taken prisoner on 4 July 1863 when the Confederate garrison at Vicksburg was forced to surrender. He was held for just a few days, however, as he signed a parole agreement on 9 July 1863, which allowed him to be released without going to a POW camp. Terms of the parole were that he not fight or perform military duties again until formally exchanged by the Federal and Confederate Governments. It may seem odd by today's standards, but releases of this sort on a soldier's sworn promise not to fight again until officially authorized were common during the Civil War. Honor mattered, and besides, if a soldier who was released on parole was later captured again while violating his previous parole agreement, his captors had a legal right to put him to death.

The 9 July parole agreement bears T. J. Seymour's actual signature, which indicates that he was literate. While this was not particularly unusual, a great many Civil War enlisted men had to place an "X" mark on the signature line of such documents, as they did not know how to write their names.

Following his parole on 9 July, T. J. Seymour apparently decided to go home, because his company muster roll for 31 Dec 1863 states he was AWOL from 23 August to 3 October. Men who were paroled were often ordered by their Government (Union or Confederate, as the case might be) to remain in a designated parole camp, performing no military duty but remaining assembled together for quick re-deployment once an official exchange was executed. This practice was important to the army because it was often difficult to get men to return to their regiments after a few months at home, and even where no resistance was encountered, it sometimes took several weeks to draw the regiment back together.

Some of the paroled enlisted men didn't agree with the practice, though, and a fair number took it upon themselves to go home anyway. Presumably this is what Pvt. Seymour did, but he either returned voluntarily by October or was arrested at or near his home by a Confederate provost marshall (military police). In either case, he likely faced some sort of punishment when he returned to the regiment, but given the circumstances, it may not have been particularly harsh.

Apparently none of the regimental journals holding Company G's muster rolls after 31 Dec 1863 survived the war, or at least they were never recovered by the victorious Yankees, as there are no 1864 or 1865 muster roll entries in Pvt. Seymour's compiled military service record. However, he was undoubtedly present with the regiment during the spring and early summer of 1864 because a few surviving clothing issuance records identified him as receiving items during that period. The exact nature of the clothing or equipment he received wasn't specified, though.

In addition to the Vicksburg combat, other battles in which the 40th Alabama fought include Chattanooga in November 1863 (about six weeks after T. J. Seymour returned to the regiment) and several fights during the Atlanta Campaign of 1864, including Rocky Face Ridge, Resaca, New Hope Church and Ezra Church. Following the Union capture of Atlanta the 40th Alabama was detached from its usual command and deployed to Mobile, Alabama, but was returned in time to participate in the Battle of Bentonville, North Carolina in March 1865.

Based on the 31 Dec 1863 muster roll and the clothing issue receipts from 1864, it is very likely, indeed almost certain, that T. J. Seymour participated in the Chattanooga and Atlanta campaigns. However, it's an open question as to whether he was at Bentonville. He may have been, but the 40th Alabama suffered some desertion problems following its deployment to Mobile, as the war appeared to be winding down and it became evident that the South was going to lose. Relatively few of the regiment's soldiers were still with the regiment when it officially surrendered in late April 1865.

Exactly where and when T. J. Seymour fought his last battle is unknown, but how the war came to an official end for him is documented in his record. On 20 May 1865 he was captured by Union troops in Pickensville, Alabama and paroled shortly afterward. Given that he originally enlisted in Pickens County, he likely was very near his home or may actually have been at home when a Union patrol came by. How long he'd been in Pickensville isn't clear ... he may have arrived very recently, as 20 May was just under a month after the 40th Alabama's official surrender, or he may have been at home for three months or more if he'd bailed out after the Mobile deployment.

In any case, it appears that Pvt. Seymour had a front row seat for some very important American history. Vicksburg, Chattanooga, and Atlanta were all very significant events during the Civil War, and while Pvt. Seymour's record isn't as definitive as one would ideally prefer, it suggests pretty strongly that he was a very serious soldier who participated in more than his share of difficult fighting.

40th Alabama

moorekr — 2013-02-27 19:39:32Z

Looking for information on T. J. Seymour who served in Co G 40th Alabama. Especially interested in where he enlisted and if there is any record of what "T.J." stood for.

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

AnnetaS — 2013-02-18 00:11:56Z

this is the record I found:

Name: George Payton Bailey
Residence Year: 1907
Residence Place: Lauderdale County
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1834
Birth Location: Mount Pleasant, Maury, Tennessee

there's a record attached to this on ancestry. Census of Confederate Soldier 1907. I don't remember saying he was a Union soldier, but maybe I may that initial mistake. Sorry. Since the original inquiry I was able to find George listed as Brown in an earlier census....that's another puzzle I'm working on.

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

Badge3323 — 2013-02-17 16:24:25Z

You haven't identified your soldier by name, nor disclosed details about the record that held the information about the 26th Alabama, so I can't be sure what the difficulty is. However, there are a couple distinct possibilities.

The first involves a regimental name change. There were two regiments known as the 26th Alabama Infantry. One was a regiment in the Army of Northern Virginia under Robert E. Lee, and the other was in the Confederacy's Army of Tennessee. The one that stayed in the Alabama-Tennessee area was required to change its name to the 50th Alabama Infantry fairly early in its career, in order to avoid confusion with the regiment operating in Virginia. If you go searching for a man from the western-theater 26th among the records of the eastern 26th, you won't find him. Perhaps your difficulties grow out of this pitfall.

Another possible explanation is that your soldier is listed in the various Civil War soldier databases by his initials rather than by his name. Plenty of Civil War soldiers went by their initials only, and as a result, finding their military records and conclusively matching them to a real person can be tricky business.

If your fellow indeed served in the 26th Alabama and he doesn't appear in the Confederate soldiers database under his proper name, I'd say there's a fairly good chance he's in the system, but is listed by initials ... or perhaps his name was spelled wrong in the military records. And unfortunately, Ancestry.com's search engine isn't real good at sound-alikes or connecting all of a name's likely spelling variations. I missed a "Ward" ancestor for a long time because the Ancestry employee who transcribed the data mis-read my ancestor's surname as "Word," and the search engine never made the connection, even though vital statistics dates and his other names were perfectly matched. Ancestry's computer is really quirky that way.

I also don't think your ancestor served in a Union regiment. While it's true that there were a few Alabama regiments in the Union army, their numbering system didn't get anywhere close to 26. And while it's also true that there were more Union regiments from Tennessee than from Alabama, even in Tennessee the Union's numbering for infantry only got up to the 10th regiment, and its cavalry only got to 14. So, if your Alabama ancestor's paperwork says he was in a regiment bearing the number 26, he was almost certainly a Rebel. Very, very little chance of it being otherwise.

As for why a man from Alabama would enlist in an Alabama regiment in Tennessee, he generally wouldn't. But he might be officially mustered or enrolled in Tennessee. That's because the word "enlistment" usually (but not always) refers to the act of being recruited, and recruitment was just a first, preliminary step in a process. By the middle of the war, recruitment was often accomplished by an officer from the regiment riding a circuit back home, looking for prospective candidates while the regiment was elsewhere, fighting or marching or doing whatever.

Once the recruiter rounded up an acceptable number of new recruits, he would lead them to the regiment or arrange for their transportation to the regiment. And when the recruits arrived wherever the full regiment was located, they would then take their oaths of allegiance and officially be mustered into the service of the Confederacy, thereby becoming "enrolled" members of the regiment ... and for the first time having their names written into the regiment's records.

So, a young man might join up in his Alabama hometown and then travel to wherever the regiment was located ... which in December 1862 for the 26th Alabama that later became the 50th Alabama, was the vicinity of Murfreesboro, Tennessee, where it fought at the Battle of Stones River on Dec. 31, 1862 to Jan 2, 1863.

Honestly, what you've described in your various messages so far makes perfect sense, and my guess is that your ancestor was probably in the 26th Alabama that later became the 50th Alabama. Unfortunately, that regiment has fewer surviving records than most Confederate regiments, which isn't saying much. And that means your ancestor's mustering-in may have been recorded into books that no longer exist, and in fact were never transcribed into National Archives records.

If that's what happened, and if your ancestor served with the regiment for only a few months, it's conceivable that there might not be any surviving military record of his service. I don't expect that's what happened in your ancestor's case, though. I expect he's there, but probably described differently than what you expect.

So, help us out here. Tell us your ancestor's name, where he lived, and what's the story on the 1907 document that reported him as a member of Company B, 26th Alabama. If it was a state census and merely stated his regiment and the dates of enlistment and discharge, did you notice whether some of his neighbors also served in the same regiment?

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

AnnetaS — 2013-02-16 19:07:59Z

thank you. I have another relative that supposedly fought in the Civil War, would have been in Dale County, Al, but I again cannot find any sort of records to substantiate the story. Oh well.

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

fsparkman_1 — 2013-02-16 18:55:52Z

Aneta S,
I can't remember where our family found the record on my ggrandfather, James Daniel, but I will try to find out and let you know. Maybe you can find more information on your relative.
Faye

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

fsparkman_1 — 2013-02-16 18:49:41Z

My great grandfather, James Daniel, from Lawrence Co, Alabama, about 30 miles west of Huntsville, Ala. was a sergeant in the 5th Alabama Calvary Co. F in the Confederate army. He was inducted at Tuscumbia, Alabama, about 30 miles north of where he lived. They were then sent to middle Tennessee where they fought at Chapel Hill but were in other places also. They ended up surrendering in Selma, Alabama close to Birmingham, Alabama. Sounds like they traveled all over Alabama and Tennessee. I suppose they had to walk a lot of that. They must have went thru some trying, hard times. My great grandfather was nicknamed "Devil Jim" because he was such a fierce fighter for the Confederates. That name is inscribed on him tombstone. He is my Hero.

Re: 45th Infantry, Co. K. Mustered Lochapoka, Macon Co. Al

MaeHamiltonAmbrose — 2013-02-01 14:18:22Z

Thank you - have not seen this info before! Will run it down.

Re: 45th Infantry, Co. K. Mustered Lochapoka, Macon Co. Al

Badge3323 — 2013-02-01 04:59:40Z

From Joseph Crute, Jr.'s book, Units of the Confederate States Army ~

"Organized at Auburn, Alabama in May 1862. Companies that made up the unit were from the counties of Barbour, Randolph, Lowndes, Macon, and Russell. It was immediately sent to Mississippi and at Tupelo suffered from camp diseases. Later it moved to Kentucky, fought at Perryville under General Walthall, then was assigned to General Woods', Lowrey's, and Shelley's Brigade, Army of Tennessee. The 45th participated in the difficult campaigns of the army from Murfreesboro to Atlanta, was with Hood in Tennessee, and ended the war in North Carolina. It was organized with 750 men, reported 91 casualties at Murfreesboro and 117 at Chickamauga, and totaled 366 effectives and 309 arms in December 1863. The regiment lost 27 killed, 72 wounded, and 32 missing at the Battle of Atlanta and was almost annihilated at Franklin. Only a remnant surrendered on April 26, 1865. The field officers were Colonels Ephraim B. Breedlove, James G. Gilchrist, William S. Goodwyn, and Harris D. Lampley; Lieutenant Colonel Robert H. Abercrombie; and Major George C. Freeman."

From Stewart Sifakis' Alabama volume in his book series, Compendium of the Confederate Armies ~

ORGANIZATION: Organized at Auburn on May 19, 1862. Companies D and H had been part of the 34th Infantry Regiment. Field consolidation with the 16th and 33rd Infantry Regiments from the fall of 1864 to April 8, 1865. Consolidated with the 1st (apparently), 16th, and 33rd Infantry Regiments at Smithfield, North Carolina on April 8, 1865.

FIRST COMMANDER: William S. Goodwyn (Colonel)

FIELD OFFICERS: Robert H. Abercrombie (Major, Lt. Colonel), Ephraim B. Breedlove (Major, Lt. Colonel, Colonel), George C. Freeman (Major), James C. Gilchrist (Lt. Colonel, Colonel), Harris D. Lampley (Major, Lt. Colonel, Colonel)

ASSIGNMENTS:
2nd Brigade, 2nd Corps, Army of the Mississippi, Dept. #2 (Jun-Jul 1862)
2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of the Mississippi, Dept. #2 (Jul 1862)
3rd Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of the Mississippi, Dept #2 (Aug 1862)
3rd Brigade, 2nd Division, Left Wing, Army of the Mississippi, Dept. #2 (Aug-Nov 1862)
Walthall's Brigade, Anderson's Division, 2nd Corps, Army of Tennessee (Nov-Dec 1862)
Anderson's Brigade, Withers' Division, 1st Corps, Army of Tennessee (Dec 1862-Jan 1863)
Woods's-Lowrey's Brigade, Cleburne's Division, 2nd Corps, Army of Tennessee (Apr-Nov 1863)
Lowrey's Brigade, Cleburne's Division, 1st Corps, Army of Tennessee (Nov 1863-Apr 1865)

BATTLES:
Perryville (Oct 8, 1963)
Murfreesboro (Dec 31, 1862-Jan 3 1863)
Tullahoma Campaign (Jun 1863)
Chickamauga (Sep 19-20, 1863)
Chattanooga Siege (Sep-Nov 1863)
Chattanooga (Nov 23-25, 1863)
Atlanta Campaign (May-Sep 1864)
Resaca (May 14-15, 1864)
New Hope Church (May 25-Jun 4, 1864
Kennesaw Mountain (Jun 27, 1864)
Peach Tree Creek (July 20, 1864)
Atlanta (July 22, 1864)
Atlanta Siege (July-Sep 1864)
Jonesboro (Aug 31-Sep 1, 1864)
Spring Hill (Nov 29, 1864)
Franklin (Nov 30, 1864)
Nashville (Dec 15-16, 1864)
Carolinas Campaign (Feb-Apr 1865)

Col. John R Burtwell

scottdawsey — 2013-01-30 22:04:19Z

I have a 1915 enventory of Confederate's buried Oakwood Cem tuscumbia he is in this, what burial location do you
show Mr. Pettus I have been unable to locate him, he does
show up as a tailor here in Tuscumbia before the war with
the merchant Halse
thanks scott

Re: 45th Infantry, Co. K. Mustered Lochapoka, Macon Co. Al

EvelynLeslie25 — 2013-01-28 15:02:54Z

My husband's great-grandfather John Leslie from Union Springs enlisted in the 45th, Co E, in W. J. Lee's company. This company enlisted in Macon Co. and in 1862 were stationed at Auburn. They were in the Battle of Lookout Mountain, Chattanooga, TN and some were taken captive there. John Leslie's daughter wrote that her father died of disease at Lookout Mountain. Some of the 45th survivors I understand were hospitalized at St. Mary's Hospital which was located for awhile in Union Springs.

Re: 45th Infantry, Co. K. Mustered Lochapoka, Macon Co. Al

SteveWJackson — 2013-01-28 14:14:06Z

I have read information online saying that the 45th Alabama began in or near Auburn, which confused me upon learning that my own ancestor who was a member had mustered in at Loachapoka. I believe it implied some disagreements among some of the officers creating various units and that ultimately the group from Loachapoka joined up with another at Auburn to form the 45th. When you find information about later travels, it will tell you that the 45th went to the area of Corinth or Tupelo -- not certain of details just now -- where battles were known to have occurred. But at some point they clearly headed back into Alabama since you indicate that Campell died in August 1862, and I know that my own direct ancestor, William Jackson, died August 8, 1862, "near Montgomery" per a statement in his records. I too would love to learn more details! Good luck.

Re: William Jackson, 45th Alabama Infantry, Company K

SteveWJackson — 2013-01-28 14:07:49Z

If you looked at the exchanges with Alan Pitts above, it doesn't show you that I ultimately contacted him outside these boards and got my ancestor's service record. Unfortunately, it didn't tell me much beyond what I already knew. He died August 8, 1862, and a statement by J. R. Carson (his Captain at one point, who later died at Franklin) said that he died "near Montgomery" and gave a general description of him.

I'm rather weak on my research skills and haven't put a great deal of energy into this in more recent times. But I hope that someone might come along with much greater expertise in these Civil War matters who might, for instance, be able to shed more light on the travel dates and locations of the 45th up through this time. I've seen information on other members who were POWs or died in battles in later years, but nothing of the details of this unit's earlier times ending with the death locations of our respective ancestors. It's long been my hope that I might learn where my Jackson ancestor ended up buried, and that perhaps his wife was buried alongside him. Even if unmarked I'd like to go there.

Re: William Jackson, 45th Alabama Infantry, Company K

MaeHamiltonAmbrose — 2013-01-27 15:05:05Z

I am in the same quandry as you. My collateral ancestor mustered in at Locapoka in April 1862, was in the 45th Infantry and Co. K., and died August 2, 1862 but don't know where. I think this group went as far as Tupelo by Aug 1862 where many died of disease. His name was Milton A. Campbell from Tuskegee who married my ancestor, Mary Jane Hamilton, from La Place outside of Tuskegee in the county.

I too have scoured the Al Archives. I need an expert in Al Civil War!!

45th Infantry, Co. K. Mustered Lochapoka, Macon Co. Al

MaeHamiltonAmbrose — 2013-01-27 14:55:41Z

Looking for route of this company. I think it went from Macon Co. Al to Tupelo where many died of disease. My collateral ancestor, Milton A. Campbell died Aug 1862 with this company. Record on file at Alabama State Archives in Montgomery. He entered as a private April 22, 1862 and was a 2nd lieutenant when he died.

Don't know exactly where he died or where he may be buried. Even if an unmarkded grave, would like route and info on this company.

Re: William Elvin Sims - 37th Alabama Infantry, Company C.

hembyancestry — 2013-01-17 03:18:30Z

William Elvin Sims was my ggrandfather. I'm not certain if you are still seeking information regarding William Sims or what type of information. He was from Searight, Covington, AL as was his father, also named William. His wife, Elizabeth Sims, is buried at Valley Grove Cemetery in Covington County, AL.

Can't information on tobias or toby morris

alshort158 — 2012-12-31 21:25:54Z

Tobias Morris served in the usct during the civil war from Alabama in Missippi. Tobias had sons; Named Jim (James) wife Harriet. Son named Louis

Re: Ellis Watford, 33rd Alabama Infantry, Co. B

roederaway — 2012-12-23 19:18:59Z

I have Ellis's consolidated record, if you want it. I am interested in learning when he died, where.

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

jamesglenn337 — 2012-11-11 16:39:31Z

Thanks Paul!

JG

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

PaulQuillin61 — 2012-11-11 15:02:30Z

A source for the names of those that surrendered at Appotmattox can be found in the "Southern Historical Society Papers". This set of books may be in a library near you. The "Appotomattox Roster", as it is called in in Volume 25 if I remember correctly. There are 23 thousand names listed. Look for your relatives name in the index and check the pages listed. The roster has also been published as a separate book called "The Appottomatox Roster".

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

jamesglenn337 — 2012-11-11 02:44:28Z

Tamra,

I am researching my family and they are from around Coosa County. My GGgf fought with Hilliards legion who became the 59th Al and I just discovered that his brother Matthew H Glenn may be a member of the 13th AL and survived to surrender at Appomattox? Do you have muster rolls so I can see if this is factual?

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

Kaiakoch — 2012-09-14 06:20:34Z

I don't know if you got the other message. Do you have any first hand knowledge of family: Laycook,Gould, or Forbess? Any photos? I have some Gould photos I will enter as soon as I can find a scanner to use.

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

Kaiakoch — 2012-09-06 03:03:29Z

I am closely related to Gould/Laycook/Forbess. I was looking at your stats. Looks like we are both in the same age range, female, are shirt-tail relatives, and both live in Portland!

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

rawmcc1 — 2012-09-04 20:29:51Z

Yes, I am related to these families in a round-about way. The connection to me is through my Sugg ancestors. I'd be glad to hear from you.

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

typhenia — 2012-09-02 07:08:04Z

I am interested in contacting rawmcc1 I am wondering if you are related somehow to Mary Frances Laycook Gould or the Forbess family. I would be interested in hearing from you.

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

typhenia — 2012-09-02 07:08:03Z

I am interested in contacting rawmcc1 I am wondering if you are related somehow to Mary Frances Laycook Gould or the Forbess family. I would be interested in hearing from you.

Re: 13th Alabama Infantry Regiment History Being Written

typhenia — 2012-09-02 07:07:53Z

I am interested in contacting rawmcc1 I am wondering if you are related somehow to Mary Frances Laycook Gould or the Forbess family. I would be interested in hearing from you.

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

AnnetaS — 2012-08-27 02:55:55Z

so is it possible this person was in the Union army but said they were a Conf solider when they took the census in 1907? I still cannot find him listed in any Army or find information on that company/regiment so unable to trace him prior to 1900.

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

1_Shabbycottage — 2012-08-27 02:29:39Z

Sorry ... Looked at our census of confederate soldiers again. I have other ancestors that enlisted for the union with TN.

Re: Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

1_Shabbycottage — 2012-08-27 02:27:21Z

Was that an union regiment ... Sometimes union sympathizers would enlist in TN.

Alabama, Census of Conf Soldiers

AnnetaS — 2012-08-09 16:29:58Z

I came across a record I've never seen before on an individual I'm researching. Dated 1907, Notes he was with Co. B, 26th AL between Dec 1862 and Jul 1863 (enlisted in Murfreesboro, TN, discharged in Chattanooga, TN). I cannot find any other records on him related to the civil war, either in TN or AL. Also, why would someone living in AL (Lauderdale CO) enlist in TN? Could someone explain how I might find more information on him as it relates to his military record? or about Co. B and the 26th regiment. Maybe the information was not accurate. Thanks,
Anneta

Jackson Co., Alabama-Need help with which Units were formed there...

garciagirl99 — 2012-07-29 00:29:27Z

I would like to know if there is a link to where I can find information on Confederate units formed from Jackson County, AL. or if someone might know & share info. The area is Bellefonte (the County capital before the War) and surrounding areas. I am not having any luck with searching and have 4-5 male members of my tree from this area unaccounted for after the War. I have read that Jackson County, AL is the only county that was occupied all 4 years of the war and the families there must have paid a heavy toll. Thanks for any help~

Re: Jackson Co., Alabama-Need help what units were formed there...

PaulQuillin61 — 2012-07-28 11:46:27Z

Here is a link for the Alabama Civil War Database. It is found on the Alabama Dept. of Archives and History site.

http://www.archives.state.al.us/civilwar/search.cfm

If you are looking at Muster slips from NARA on a soldier, most have when and where the soldier enlisted. Often it shows just a town or crossroads name. But this can be researched to tell where he enlisted. Give me a name and I will look to see what I can find.

Re: Jackson Co., Alabama-Need help what units were formed there...

garciagirl99 — 2012-07-27 14:34:45Z

Thank-you for your response. I checked the link you suggested, a great source but for me, no luck with a match.
What I have are 5 civil war records with the family names I am researching in Jackson Co., Alabama. Everything as far as unit and rank are listed, but NO county. Because of duplicate names I don't feel I can use these records. If I could somehow match them to Jackson County it would be more consistant. I found the various Alabama Units on the Link you suggested but found they listed only the Officers. They didn't include the troops names. The names I am researching show they were all Privates and Volunteers. So close! Thanks again

Re: Jackson Co., Alabama-Need help what units were formed there...

PaulQuillin61 — 2012-07-23 15:32:17Z

Here is a link to Alabama Civil War Roots on rootsweb. In the index you will find home counties of Alabama Civil War Units. After you have the units, you can also click on the Alabama Units Links to search individual units for get more information.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alcwroot/

Ready's Battalion, Alabama Reserves

garciagirl99 — 2012-07-21 15:48:57Z

Would like to know if anyone would share information on this battalion, specifically which county it might have been from in Alabama. I found a family name, "Christy" on the nps.gov Civil War site listed under "Ready's Battalion, Alabama Reserves" but they have no information on the the unit itself, where it was formed etc.
Thankyou~ Sheri

Re: John Webb

jwebb199 — 2012-07-02 09:46:51Z

My offer for assistance with John Webb is still good if anyone needs the info. My GGGrandfather was John Webb. He married Martha Capshaw and they lived in Dekalb, Ala. John served in the Civil War in the Union Cavalry. I do have his pension records. John's son Joe was my GGrandfather he married Jennie Pendergrass. Jennie was accidentally killed by their son (my Grandfather) John Henry when a gun went off. John Henry married Sarah Goins and their son Henry was my Father. Joe's sister Nancy married Jennie Pendergrass's father William P.. John and Martha both died and are buried in Dekalb, Ala. Joe died at John Henry's home in Walker county, Ga and is buried there with John and Sarah.
If this is the person you are looking for feel free to email me at jwebb@37409.comcastbiz.net
One thing I haven't been able to find is just when Jennie died or where she was buried.

The Hinson Guards elect officers, Mobile, Al 1862

charbmoore1 — 2012-06-17 12:21:21Z

From the Mobile, Alabama Newspaper:

1862:

• "THE HINSON GUARDS. -- This company was organized ... by the election of the following officers:

"Captain -- Charles Briggs. 1st Lieutenant -- J.W. Haley. 2nd Lieutenant R.C. Reeden. Brevet 2d Lieutenant -- George Wragg.

"The Hinson Guards form a part of Col. Portis's Regiment and are chiefly made up from the ranks of the Mobile Bay Chasseurs, Capt. F. Dolhonde, now Aid to Gen. Forney, and the Bienville Rangers, Capt. J.R. Edwards. They have adopted their present name as a deserved compliment to John W. Hinson, Esq. of the firm of Hinson & Holt, who, though on the list of exempts, was an active and zealous member of the Chasseurs

Not my lines, just sharing.

Third Alabama Casualty list from the Battle of Seven Pines, 1862

charbmoore1 — 2012-06-03 09:16:23Z

From the Mobile, Alabama Newspaper:

1862:

• RICHMOND, JUNE 2. -- Our regiment, the Third Alabama, were in the battle yesterday and badly cut up. Col. Lomax and Adjutant Johnson were killed.

"Captain R.L. Mayes, (Tuskegee Light Infantry and Lieutenants James Broun (Cadets) and Henry Ellis (Gulf City Guards) were also killed.

"Captains E.S. Ready, (Wetumpka Life Guards), W. Phelan (Co. F), and Robinson (Co. H), and Lieutenants Witherspoon (Cadets), Gardner (Mobile Rifles), and Partridge (Gulf City Guards), are wounded.

"Privates Brooks, Branch, Jeffreys and Monk are reported killed; and Sergeant Bingham, and privates W.T. Anderson, Brennan, A. Hall, Langdon, Jones, Partridge, Russell, Tarleton, Turner and Weaver, wounded, besides others missing from company B.

"Tom Scott, of the Cadets, and James Letchell and of the Mobile Rifles are also killed, and Tom Bell, of the Mobile Rifles, are also killed. It is impossible to give details. I am safe, with only a slight scratch. D.W.L."

Re: Capt Robinsons regt

LindaLeeAllen1958 — 2012-05-18 00:16:58Z

Suggest widen search for group of brothers from Randolph County, AL. John Cimsey "Kim" Huddleston family right along GA/AL state line with service by most of male members. Could be unit from either State; my g-g was with Heard County (GA) Greys. Suggest AL Archives online data as well.

Re: 53rd Partisan Rangers Company K

JoyceClark69 — 2012-05-05 16:39:41Z

Is this John Jackson the guy that was Killed in action on September 16, 1864 at Keytesville, Ray County, MO?

Re: Am I being greedy?

TateTwo — 2012-04-30 06:00:11Z

More info:

NEW YORK PASSENGER AND CREW LIST 1917-1973
Name: Sheeley Adcox
Arrival Date: 4 Sep 1951
Port of Arrival: Buffalo
Port of Departure: Port Arthur
Place of Nationality/Origin: American
Ship Name: J J H Brown

TEXAS BIRTH INDEX 1903-1997

Date of Birth: 31 Jul 1914
Birth County: Collin
Mother's Name: S E Adcox
Certificate Number: 21848
Roll Number: 1914_0001

1920 United States Federal Census about Shealie E Adcock
Name: Shealie E Adcock
Age: 3
Birth Year: abt 1917
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1920: McKinney Ward 3, (aka: McKinney Town) Collin, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Robt E Adcock occupation: painter
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Name: Abie Adcock
Mother's Birthplace: Mississippi
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt E Adcock 28 BORN: TN FATHER: TN MOTHER: TN
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Abie Adcock 28 BORN: MS FATHER: MS MOTHER: AL
Nanna N Adcock 6 DAUGHTER BORN: TX FATHER: TN MOTHER: MS
Shealie E Adcock 3 SON BORN: TX FATHER: TN MOTHER: MS

Re: Am I being greedy?

TateTwo — 2012-04-30 05:43:50Z

It's all good, sweetie :) Just pay it forward :)

Re: Am I being greedy?

MaddieKaddison — 2012-04-30 02:48:13Z

This is amazing. WOW. I'm...humbled by your help and I can't wait to dig into what you've managed to find. THANK YOU, THANK YOU so much! If I can ever return the favor, I hope you will allow me too!