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Re: SCOTT'S RAILWAY GUARDS - Transcribed

Annwid — 2013-06-19 10:19:10Z

Thank you so much Robert for looking this information up. Strange about the wounds. His arm was apparently so badly damaged that he could no longer pursue his career as an Architect.

Re: Canadians in South African Constabulary

rnkesterton — 2013-06-18 15:16:40Z

I found the Q.S.A. medal roll for 132 Private Albert Munro Richardson(Royal Canadian Dragoon Guards.

He was awarded His Q.S.A. clasps: Cape Colony, Orange Free State. WO 100/287.

Regards

Robert Kesterton

Re: SCOTT'S RAILWAY GUARDS - Transcribed

rnkesterton — 2013-06-18 14:35:32Z

Hi Ann

I found his Q.S.A. medal roll (Reg Number 679) he was awarded it on 30/05/1911 with clasps Cape Colony, South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902.
On this medal roll there is no mention of him being wounded.

Regards

Robert Kesterton

Re: Nursing Sister Concentration Camp

er481 — 2013-06-06 15:58:48Z

You may be interested to know that there is a photograph of Marie Chandler at Kimberley camp in 1902 in the Album of photographs taken by Gertrude Emily Custance, London Metropolitan Archives, H09/GY/PH/08/058 (photo number 32). It is annotated 'Sister Chandler (RIP 1905)'.

The British Concentration Camps of the South African War database http://www2.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/index.php is worth a look.

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

rnkesterton — 2013-06-01 20:12:28Z

Hi Loretta

I have email you copy of his medal roll.

The clasps were for being that area during the war as follows:

ORANGE FREE STATE: 28-02-1900 TO 31-05-1902

CAPE COLONY: 11-10-1899 TO 31-05-1902

TRANSVAAL: 24-05-1900 TO 31-05-1902

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

Violet_Apple — 2013-05-31 00:20:49Z

Robert,

my email:

ms garvey @ hotmail . com

just take all of the spaces out. :)

Thank you.

Loretta

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

dunkeldcathedralarchives — 2013-05-28 13:24:51Z

The Records of The scottish Horse are held by
The Community Archive, 12 The Cross, Dunkeld, Perthshire
PH8 0AN, Scotland

01350727786
dunkeldcathedralarchives@outlook.com
Open Mon and Fri 10-12 . Email enquires please before visiting, we are all volunteers.

Canadians in South African Constabulary

Mikeitha — 2013-05-07 17:31:38Z

Seeking information on John (Jack) Wood Bottomley; Albert (Bert) Munro Richardson. Richardson served with Royal Canadian Dragoons before joining the SAC. Any information is appreciated

Canadians in South African Constabulary

Mikeitha — 2013-05-07 17:31:36Z

Seeking information on John (Jack) Wood Bottomley; Albert (Bert) Munro Richardson. Richardson served with Royal Canadian Dragoons before joining the SAC. Any information is appreciated

Re: John Alfred Ashford's Regiment

JeffH01 — 2013-04-17 01:53:06Z

Sue,

Please contact me at jeffp dot h at bt [nospace] internet dot com as I have something of interest for you but cannot attach it here.

I am not a professional researcher.

Jeff

Re: John Alfred Ashford's Regiment

suemaryashfordowen — 2013-04-15 03:35:25Z

I have carried out this search and found him! Thanks so much. He was in the 1st Battalion Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry in India (1897-1898) and in the 2nd Battalion of the same regiment in South Africa (both regimental number 3422). He was listed as J Ashford. All the bars fit. Mystery solved thanks to you.

Re: John Alfred Ashford's Regiment

suemaryashfordowen — 2013-04-14 21:33:10Z

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to my post. I will most certainly follow your advice and carry out your suggested search. We had assumed he served in WWI but have no information or medals to prove it. Many thanks.

Cheers Sue

Re: John Alfred Ashford's Regiment

JeffH01 — 2013-04-14 01:43:13Z

Search the UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949 here on Ancestry (Search > all records > scroll down and click on United Kingdom > UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949.
For some reason I couldn't get to the rolls via search military.

You should be able to pick him out under both medals with the clasp you mentioned.

As he served after 1883 and provided he didn't also serve in WWI, you may be able locate his service record on Findmypast. If he did serve in WWI there's a slim chance you may find a record or pension file here on Ancestry but most WWI service records were destroyed in the bombing during WW2.

Re: boer war

JeffH01 — 2013-04-09 10:55:56Z

You don’t need a subscription, can purchase 60 payasyougo credits using a debit card (including those you can pre-load with cash) or credit card for £6.95p – from FMP home page select subscribe and scroll down to bottom of page see full pay as you go options.

Please note that prior to 1898 when the Royal Army Medical Corps came into being, the other ranks part of the Corps was known as the Medical Staff Corps (1884-1898) and that may be the unit J Huxley attested into.

boer war

stephenhuxley — 2013-04-08 09:15:48Z

if anyone has a subscription to findmypast would they please look up the following for me. thank you

Last name First names Number Regiment
Huxley J 9751 Royal Army Medical Corps

Re: IMPERIAL HOSPITAL CORPS - Transcribed

Alberta2005 — 2013-04-04 05:52:35Z

Perhaps you might be of some help, I know it is probably a long shot. My grandfather and his brother both had gone to S. Africa to fight in the Boer War. My Grandfather returned but his brother did not. It is believed he had died there. The family story was that the last time they saw each other was when my Grandfather happened to see him on the platform of the train station as it was pulling away and that was the last he or any of the family had seen or heard of him.
John Collins was born June 10, 1873, enlisted in Cranbrook B.C., on April 26, 1902, with the 5th Regiment of the Canadian Mounted Rifles, Regiment No. 181; went to South Africa to fight in the Boer War. source: Military Documents Attestation Papers (Defaulters Book)I have a copy of his attestation papers.

Re: PASSENGER LIST FOR DRAYTON GRANGE AUGUST 1902

iuliaw — 2013-03-30 08:19:59Z

On the http://www.bwm.org.au/site/, (Boer War Memorial site) There is a page all about my Great grandfather, with his service papers etc. Down the bottom, is "Returned to Australia 11 July 1902 on the Drayton Grange." It was a scandal with the overcrowding , disease and poor sanitation, so I doubt there would be a passenger list.

Re: Boer War Medal

Glynda260 — 2013-03-24 09:27:05Z

Hi Patrick

Having read the post about the medal that was awarded to Thomas Mells, I thought I'd make myself known to you as we are clearly related. William Mells, the brother of Thomas would have been my great grandfather. I have his indentures from when he was an apprentice for John Cooke.

Regards
Glynda
Email Glynda.amos@btinternet.com

Re: Boer War medal

jacksandell — 2013-03-24 05:19:10Z

Glynda

I have forwarded the medal to the grandson of TE Mells. I checked his credentials and they appeared to be genuine. I have requested from him permission to forward his name and email address. No reply as yet

Jack Sandell

Re: served in Boar conflict - (John) Owen TULLY

halpark — 2013-03-24 01:24:10Z

Could I politely point out that a Boar is a male pig. Any records of your relative in South Africa would be of his service in the Boer War. Boer is the Afrikaans word for farmer also used to describe the Afrikaaners themselves - hope none of them spot you referring to them as porcine!!

Injured Boer war soldier died Gibralta?

snewt3 — 2013-03-23 22:06:17Z

My greatgranddad, Harry Clarke, 71250, quartermaster sergeant, 15th Western Division Royal Garrison Artillery, is supposed to have been wounded in South Africa, returned to Gibralta where he died. Does anyone one know if this would be correct or might he have gone back to Malta? Any ideas how I could find records in Gibralta or elsewhere his death might be recorded.

Re: SCOTT'S RAILWAY GUARDS - Transcribed

Annwid — 2013-03-20 11:47:54Z

Hello,
I have only just come across your posting. We have a Frank Victor RIDER born 1880 who was in the Boer War. His Queens S.A. medal reads 'TPR. F.V.RIDER SCOTT'S RLY GDS.' However, I cannot see his name on the WO published lists so far. I wondered if you have any knowledge of this man. He returned home in 1901 wounded in arm.
So grateful for any information.
Thank you,
Ann

Re: Boer War medal

Glynda260 — 2013-03-17 16:42:43Z

Hi
Could you please reply to me as I have just noticed your post on here about Thomas Edward Mells. My mother's birth name was Mells and I have done a lot of research on the family. I am descended from Thomas and I would love to hear from you.

Regards
Glynda
Ps I live in Hampshire

served in Boar conflict - (John) Owen TULLY

CMST_wb — 2013-03-10 14:08:10Z

Hello, I'm trying to find a record of my ancestor Owen Tully (we believe he added "John" as first name at some point). Born in Ireland (1856), he went to England (Lancashire?)abt. 1875. We think he served in S. Africa in the Boar conflict. There is a census listing of a John Owen Tully in Lancashire (1881)and getting married in 1889. There is a good chance that he is my ancestor. Assuming he is, that means he would have been in the military between abt 1876-1880, or 1881-1888. I have tried to find records about him but not being at all familiar with British records/terminology, I'm not doing very well with this. Could anyone help me? Thank you.

Re: John Alfred Ashford's Regiment

suemaryashfordowen — 2013-02-18 20:39:48Z

Thanks so much for taking the time to find out all of this information. My grandfather was born on 18 November 1872 at Nursery Road, Harborne, Staffs. The birth was registered in Kings Norton (Worcs) Registration District. His name was given as John Ashford. This was also the case with his marriage certificate. The Alfred only appeared as his middle name on his death certificate and funeral service sheet. Therefore, it is very likely that he is recorded simply as John Ashford in military records. I will have a good look at the sites you suggest. Many thanks. Cheers Sue

Re: John Alfred Ashford's Regiment

infosending1 — 2013-02-18 19:53:18Z

The site listed below, and it's forum, should be useful to you.

http://angloboerwar.com/

http://angloboerwar.com/abwforum

The following sites should help you with the units involved in the Tirah expeditionary force.

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armycampaigns/indianca...

http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=5901

BTW - Are you certain about the order of his forenames. ?

You don't mention his age or year of birth.

However, I've checked the birth registrations based on a birth in the Birmingham area, and given the likely time period involved.

I don't see a likely birth candidate for John Alfred Ashford, but I do see a good birth candidate for Alfred J. Ashford, born in Solihull in 1872.

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

Violet_Apple — 2013-02-16 23:25:49Z

26387
TPR J.Grant
1st Scottish Horse

Clasps are:
Transvaal
Orange Free State
Cape Colony

msgarvey at gmail dot com

Thank you

Loretta

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

rnkesterton — 2013-02-16 16:46:16Z

Hi Loretta

I will look up any medal rolls and forwarded it to you.

Please will you give me an email address so can do so?

Regards

Robert

John Alfred Ashford's Regiment

suemaryashfordowen — 2013-02-13 08:10:50Z

Boer War experts I need your help please. My grandfather, John Alfred Ashford (born Birmingham, England), served in the Second Boer War (1899-1902) as a private and received both the King’s and Queen’s South Africa Medal. The latter has six bars: Belfast, Diamond Hill, Johannesburg, Driefontein, Paardeberg and Relief of Kimberley. These medals are not in my possession and so I’m unable to determine his regiment. Does anyone know of a likely regiment in which he may have served given this list of offensives? He was not a casualty. He also received the India medal 1895 for Tirah (1897-98) and Punjab Frontier (1897-98). Any help would be very much appreciated.

PASSENGER LIST FOR DRAYTON GRANGE AUGUST 1902

WALLSD01 — 2013-02-05 04:38:15Z

Does anyone know how I can access the passenger list for the Drayton Grange arriving in Sydney in August, 1902. It was the last troopship home to Australia from South Africa. I think my grandfather would have been on that ship.

Hugh Benedict Walls served with the Bechuanaland Rifles (Unit raised in South Africa) as at 26 September 1901 up to 30 June 1902.

The National Archives of Australia and AWM aren't able to help.

Any assistance greatly appreciated.
Deanne

Boer War Medal

PATRICK_MELLS — 2013-01-31 10:08:43Z

Jacksandell- The medal you found in your garden, belonged to my granfather Thomas Edward Mells No 11976 Royal Artillery.I am Patrick Mells only grandson age 79 live in South Australia.
He was born in 1877 and died in 1926 buried at Kensington london.Like to hear from you.
Pat Mells

Re: IMPERIAL HOSPITAL CORPS - Transcribed

consiliumadv — 2013-01-26 12:17:43Z

Hello,

My grandmothers uncle, Arvid Baagoe, enlisted in the Imperial Hospital Corps in August 1900. Would you perhaps have a copy of his Form of Enrolment?

Best,
Staffan

Re: Frederick Herbert Gough

hoovermarc — 2013-01-23 23:08:24Z

Rita,
Are you already familiar with his ancestry? I don't know much about his father's side of the family, but his mother's is very extensive.
Marc

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

pchapo2 — 2013-01-19 03:41:41Z

Dont Know but there are a few Scottish horse Sites that may yield service records. From my reading of the Scottish horse regiments Australians joining paid their own way to Jo'burg to join. The Scottish Horse Regiment was a private regiment and has quite a history. An off shoot of the Scottish horse was the 5th Battalion a Australian Scottish battalion that was formed in WW1 and again in WW2. As a national serviceman I was drafted into 5th Battalion in Vietnam. So my battalion that i joined as links back to 1901 to my Grandfather's Regiment some 70 years later. There is quite a bit of info if you google 1st Scottish Horse.
Regards Peter

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

Violet_Apple — 2013-01-18 21:35:13Z

I found him on britishmedals!

Do you know if there are any service records available?

Thank you.

Loretta

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

pchapo2 — 2013-01-18 00:44:37Z

Loretta
Have you tried re entering the address into Google? Or try googling "britishmedals". You rellie is there cos i have seen him.

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

Violet_Apple — 2013-01-16 23:22:40Z

Thank you Peter.

I'm afraid the link doesn't work.

Loretta

Re: 1st Scottish Horse

pchapo2 — 2013-01-16 07:13:46Z

My Grandfather was also in the 1st Scottish Horse Regiment in the Boer War. There is a lot of information if you google 1st scottish horse and you can also see members who served in that regiment by going to WWW.britishmedals.us/files/127scothorse.html

regards
Peter Chapman

Re: H Game

chgame — 2012-12-28 12:32:30Z

Hi

Thanks very much for taking the time to find the information I requested.

Unfortunately and regretfully, it looks as if it is not the direct ancestor I was particularly interested in, although I must be related to the Henry Game cited somewhere along the line in the distant past.

Please don't use any more of your valuable time time doing any further research.

Regards

Re: H Game

infosending1 — 2012-12-28 11:43:41Z

First name(s):Henry
Last name: GAME
Calculated year of birth: 1870
Parish of birth: St Marys
Town of birth: Ware
County of birth: Hertfordshire
Age at attestation: 19 years 7 months
Attestation date: 5 January 1889
Attestation corps: 19th (Princess Of Wales's Own) Hussars
Attestation soldier number: 3321
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 4904 / 54

I'll get you some paperwork on this in a day or two.

H Game

chgame — 2012-12-26 14:24:51Z

Hi

Does anyone have any further information about a potential ancestor of mine who served during the Boer War in the 19th Princess Of Wales's Own) Hussars ? I know there was an H Game with service number 3321 and who was discharged 13/01/02, but I need to know personal details such as DOB and given name etc to ascertain whether it was him or not.

Thanks, in anticipation.

Re: Railway Pioneer Regiment South Africa

moir66 — 2012-12-22 02:11:13Z

Hello, do you have all the names of the soldiers in this regiment ? I am looking for information regarding my great grandfather who was in the railway pioneer regiment in south africa during the boer war,thank you

Re: For the attention of those with relatives who served in the Boer War - help needed!

SteveMurphy41 — 2012-12-13 00:09:38Z

My great grand uncle served in a Queensland regiment and went on to become Speaker of the House of Representatives during the Second World War. He remained attached to the local Boer War Association and was President of it at the time of his death.

Is that the sort of thing you are looking for?

Re: Death Certificate for Joseph Marnell, Boer War Veteran

maggie071114 — 2012-12-10 12:38:58Z

Interesting. You are probably right. Let me know if you find anything in the school records.
Alice

Re: Death Certificate for Joseph Marnell, Boer War Veteran

justpaulb — 2012-12-09 22:16:22Z

Yes, Lizzie Rainey and David Brown married on 24 Dec 1903. My Grandfather Robert was born in 1906.

I think the protestant/catholic barrier really formed after 1912... I still think it is likely they went to the same school. Lisburn would be traditionally a protestant town but your grandparents must not have been too bothered with the British/Irish debate as he signed up to fight in the British army and your great grandfather was in the RIC.

Re: Death Certificate for Joseph Marnell, Boer War Veteran

maggie071114 — 2012-12-09 13:17:21Z

OK. I sent it by email.

Did David Brown marry a Lizzie Rainey about 1903? Is
that your g grandmother's maiden name?

Also, my grandfather was Catholic. I think your g grandfather was Presbyterian. If that's true, I would assume that they did not go to the same school. What do you think?
Alice

Re: Death Certificate for Joseph Marnell, Boer War Veteran

justpaulb — 2012-12-08 23:52:22Z

Alice,

The attachment didn't come through..maybe you could send it to my email? justpaulb@gmail.com

Re: Death Certificate for Joseph Marnell, Boer War Veteran

justpaulb — 2012-12-08 23:49:54Z

That's excellent.. I love the moustache!

I believe all the school records are at PRONI. I will check at the end of next week. I have to head to Germany for a few days at the start of the week..I will be I contact once I find more info.

Re: Death Certificate for Joseph Marnell, Boer War Veteran

maggie071114 — 2012-12-08 14:07:55Z

Paul:
I am sending the 6 service records for Joseph Marnell.
I thought I sent this an hour ago, but I don't see them.
So, sorry if this is a duplicate. I am not used to
doing attachments.
Alice

Re: Death Certificate for Joseph Marnell, Boer War Veteran

maggie071114 — 2012-12-08 12:59:29Z

Let's put a face to the name (LOL).
Let me know if you can view this picture or enlarge it.
I still have to scan in the military picture. This one
is of my grandfather and my Uncle Joe (Thomas Joseph) in
1910-11.