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Looking for Gorkiewicz records and surnames in the area of Yezupil .

barcuk — 2013-05-17 14:57:26Z

Hi,

I am looking for military records, birth records, property records, or church records for my family surname Gorkiewicz. My great grandfather was the first to leave Jezupol in 1909.

Family lore mentions he was in the Army.

Johann Gorkiewicz.
Born: 1878

Married to Katarzyna Magnowska dob: 1880 approx. (Magnowski also from Jezupol)

Four Children:
Anna Dob: 1898, Stefania dob: 1903, Walter dob: 1910,
Joseph (born in USA dob: 1916)

Last known town; Iyezupol’, Jesupol, Jezupol, Yezupol’, Yezupul’, Zhovten’, Yezupil’
49°02' N 24°47' E

Sibling: Tekla Bonistriewicz (married to Olexa Bonistriewicz also from Jezupol)

Thank you in advance.

Sasha (Bud) Gurkweitz

Austrian Hungarian Marine

shahbalman — 2013-04-07 19:49:29Z

Hi all,

I have two pictures of my great grandfather who served in the Austrian Hungarian marine in the WW1. Is there anyone who can help with identifying where he served? His name was Jozef Wagner and he was originally from Riecka (now in Slovakia).

On picture 1 he is third from left and on the second picture he is on the right.

Thanks for any help

Help Identifying Uniform

carol_goldman1 — 2013-03-31 22:29:54Z

Can anyone identify what country this uniform is from? Galicia? Hungary? Austria?

Thanks
- Carol

Re: Uniform Identification- Late 19th Century in Sarajevo

linziemcro — 2013-03-23 01:44:15Z

Thank you for the reply, I missed typed and the military age is 1880. Does that change the sites I should be looking at?

Uniform Identification- Late 19th Century in Sarajevo

linziemcro — 2013-03-23 01:39:41Z

Hello All,

I am looking for some help finding ANY information on the uniform in these pictures. The man seated on the far left we believe is my 3rd great grandfather (some family members believe it is his son John Petrovich). He was called Papa but we don't know his first name, his last name is Petrovich. His oldest son (John) was born in 1882 and per his naturalization papers was born in Lelo Ljuba, Now Jugoslavia, Austria and came to the united states in 1910. John lists himself as Austrian speaking Croatian so I assume his father would be the same. Based on his age I believe that his father (pictured) would have been military age at about 1880ish? I believe that they are Austro-Hungarian but I am not sure and I can't seem to make a match. The knots on the sleeves are different from other uniforms. I have looked into the insignia's on the hats (from the shape) don't match anything I've seen either. The photo is marked in the bottom left and the photographer Stefan Ossko, who was a photographer in Saravejo, Bosnia and Herzegovina in the late 19th century. Please let me know if you have any information that will help me in my research.

Thank you!!

Re: Uniform Identification- Late 19th Century in Sarajevo

Mohnbauer — 2013-03-21 17:49:13Z

Badges of Rank: http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/badges/badges.htm
Two six pointed white stars on the collar or collar patch:
Infantry: Korporal
Jäger: Unterjäger
Cavalry: Korporal
Artillery: Korporal

Re: Uniform Identification- Late 19th Century in Sarajevo

Mohnbauer — 2013-03-21 17:44:00Z

maybe was stationed in Sarajevo - so look on map about the symbols what was possible. see some Infantery, also Husars, Train, Artillery and so on: http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/img/oegarnkart1898.jpg

here some pictures:http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/index.html

my guess would maybe Landwehr-Infanterie - not easy to find fitting with hat, trousers and sleeves. some possibilities also with the knots on the sleeves: http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/img/oe1898_07.jpg

KuK Austrian-Hungarian Troops - not possible for him is HONVED (Hungary):
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_k.u.k._Kampftruppen
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.k._Landwehr

i have no idea what can be meant with his home-town- ?Lelo Ljuba? must be a misspelling...

Hancsak,Hizem,Hymler

mabudnyk — 2013-02-26 21:16:04Z

Jan Hancsak from Brezovica (1814) Married in 1837 Alzbeta Hizem Daugter Anna Hancsak married Jan Hross (GGP). Looking for info on Jan Hancsak and Alzbeta. She died 17 Dec 1845. He remarried Anna Hmelyar on 7 Jan 1846 They Had a son George B born 1856. Jan Hross (Hrosch) born 1838 his Parents were: Juraj Hrosch and Maria Blizanova

Re: Ribnik

kathryn2085 — 2013-02-19 03:43:12Z

The Kriegsarchiv in Wien had no information relating to military service for Josef Schmuck. They suggested trying the Slovenia Archives which I haven't done as of yet.

Re: Horvath

asperula — 2013-02-18 10:21:48Z

Just use the site that Carl recommended. Enter Verlustliste Tengőd into the search field. Click the results then you can see the related page(s) of the report in pdf.

Re: Horvath

moonpalace — 2013-02-14 20:02:45Z

Thank you once again
Would it be possible to see the six pages from the village
Maybe a name would bring a clue to one of the older relatives
Thanks

Re: Horvath

asperula — 2013-02-14 10:38:40Z

The correct spelling of the village is Tengőd.
The Kramerius site - that Carl advised - has 6 pages of results for the village, but you need the name.

Re: Horvath

moonpalace — 2013-02-13 19:05:15Z

Thank for your reply
All I know he was killed 1h 1917 I think October(maybe in Italy)
His ancesters came from TENGOD SOMOGY
All I knowmy father went by either his wifes maiden nane or his mothers
HORVATH
sORRY i CANNOT BE MORE HELPFUL

Re: Horvath

carlkotlarchik1 — 2013-02-13 14:37:24Z

What are the soldier's names you are looking for? You also need to provide their birth village and year of birth.

The Czech National Library has put up WWI casualty reports on line. http://kramerius.nkp.cz/kramerius/Welcome.do

Horvath

moonpalace — 2013-02-13 09:16:43Z

Hello I am looking for hungarian soilders records that were killed in the 1916/18s he was in the Austrian/hungarian Army
For some reason im told the family name changed after this and we took an gt grandmas maiden name
Could anyone help I know its a long shot
Thank you

Re: 'In remembrance of your service' memento identification help

Mohnbauer — 2013-01-30 08:08:12Z

found only german Wikipedia,but maybe take a translator:
* The Joint Army/Gemeinsamen Armee from both parts of the country (this list),
* the imperial and royal/kaiserlich-königliche (kuk)Landwehr militia from all non-Hungarian parts of the country,
* the ku Landwehr (Honvéd) only from Hungary and the time belonged to Hungary parts of Serbia, Croatia, Romania (Transylvania) and Slovakia (Upper Hungary) .
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_k.u.k._Kampftruppen

"Why do think 34/2 and 85/1.3 are Train versus Infanteria-Regiment or detachiertes Batallion? In either case I assume thse would by k.u.k?"
"For the Royal Hungarian Army, I understand the reasoning for 9/4, but why do suggest 15/3?"
possibilities think about stationed regiments-symbols on map for Zips and about uniform on picture:
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/img/oegarnkart1898.jpg
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/img/oe1898_05.jpg

A Guide for Locating Military Records for the Various Regions of the Austro-Hungarian Empire:
http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/ahm.html

Re: 'In remembrance of your service' memento identification help

krisak99 — 2013-01-27 19:31:58Z

Thank you for the information.

After looking over the map at http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/img/oegarnkart1898.jpg I have a couple of questions for clarity:

The legend titled "K. ung. Landwehr" is for the Royal Hungarian Army?
Legend "K. k. Landwehr" is Imperial Royal Army (Austria)?
The rest of the legend is for the Imperial & Royal AH Army (joint)?

Why do think 34/2 and 85/1.3 are Train versus Infanteria-Regiment or detachiertes Batallion? In either case I assume thse would by k.u.k?

For the Royal Hungarian Army, I understand the reasoning for 9/4, but why do suggest 15/3?

From my understanding Hungarian Army records post-1867 have been lost. I'm assuming I would not be able to find records if my grandfather served in the k.u.?

Again thank you for take the time to answer my questions.

Re: 'In remembrance of your service' memento identification help

Mohnbauer — 2013-01-24 14:03:25Z

Zur Erinnerung an meine Dienstzeit
In memory of my service

uniform looks for this:
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/img/oe1898_05.jpg
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.u._Landwehr
see Train 34/2, Train-regiment 85/1.3 (would fit with map)and ku.Landwehr Detachiertes Battallion 15/3. and 9/4. in nearby-area stationed.
military-maps - area 6 Kassa:
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/img/oegarnkart1898.jpg
http://www.mlorenz.at/images/militaerterritorialeinteilung_1...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BDdiar
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&am...

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zips
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komitat_Zips
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Map...
http://www.spis.sk/mapy/r/r1913.html

Re: 'In remembrance of your service' memento identification help

timtracker — 2013-01-18 18:38:00Z

The ones I have seen are from the 1880s and 1890s. I don't know if they were in use earlier.

However, you should note that they tended to be be made at the end of an individual's service rather than the beginning. Consequently it may help if you knew when these two left the army rather than joined it.

Re: 'In remembrance of your service' memento identification help

krisak99 — 2013-01-18 02:39:37Z

Thanks for the info.

By late 19th century, I assume it is would be 1890's instead of 1850's?

Looking at the original the head is different. Makes you think it was added after the fact, or replacing the original. Basically the head looks like a photo where as the rest looks more "fined".

Re: 'In remembrance of your service' memento identification help

timtracker — 2013-01-17 21:02:31Z

Several different versions of this type of memento have been posted on these boards over the last 3 months or so. They appear to be quite common. I think individual soldiers bought these for themselves or had them presented to them I don't think they were given to all soldiers. These other ones were for German soldiers.

The locations you mention are in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and I think the soldier is wearing Austro-Hungarian headwear. The text is in German, but this was the language of the Austrian part of the Empire. I suspect that the middle portrait cut off at the top would be the Emperor, the other two would be senior officers. In one version I saw the top 3 portraits were the German Kaiser, the Emperor and the Italian king. This made them marketable to soldiers from all 3 empires. I think this version is probably solely aimed at Austro-hungarian soldiers judging by what little I can see of the uniforms that are cut off.

Only the head is unique to each picture. The rest of the picture is generic. Sometimes there is a space for the regiment to be inscribed, but that may have been cut off from this one, or it may never have had this element.

Sometimes the head of the soldier looks a little odd as it is added later to show the individual whose service is commemorated. Apart from the regiment name, this is the only personalised part of the picture. The artistry of whoever adds the head may not be up to the artistry of whoever made the original print. Can you see a difference in production method by close examination of the original ?

The dates were for later 19th century.

'In remembrance of your service' memento identification help

krisak99 — 2013-01-17 12:27:07Z

This picture / memento belonged to my Grandfather. Looking for more information on the picture. If possible narrow down the year(s) and regiment this may be for.

Is this something all service men received?
Is the head of the person receiving the memento, or a stock picture?

At top appears to have been renderings of 3 individuals that were cut-off at some point.

Originally the thought is this was my Grandfather, but after some investigation I'm wondering if it may be my Great-Grandfather. My Great-Grandfather married at the age of 28. From what I have read this is a good indication of military service.

My Great-Grandfather was born in 1830, recruitment year 1850. My Grandfather was born 1879, recruitment year 1899.

Both are from the village of Zdiar, Slovakia. The recruiting county would have been Spis (Szepes/Zips).

Re: Identify uniform timeframe and rank etc.

Mohnbauer — 2012-12-15 21:25:25Z

there was one battaillon stationed in Przemysl, which would fit with place at backside of picture (photographer)> Zasanie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przemy%C5%9Bl
http://dworzecpolski.pl/dworzec/przemysl-zasanie
former austrian crownland Galicia: http://www.halgal.com/graphics/maps/mapofgalicia.jpg
former Eastern-Galicia-districts 1910: http://www.halgal.com/graphics/maps/map1910districts.jpg
later southeastern Poland 1930´s: http://www.halgal.com/graphics/maps/mapsoutheastpol.jpg
Genealogy of Halychyna / Eastern Galicia: http://www.halgal.com/maps_halgal.html

Pionierbataillon Nr. 10

Errichtet/founded: 1893
Ergänzungsbezirk: X. – XII. AK
Nationalitäten: 50 % Polen – 30 % Ruthenen – 20 % andere
Garnison: Przemysl
Kommandant: Oberstleutnant Joseph Watzek
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.u.k._Pioniere#Pionierbataillo...

Re: Identify uniform timeframe and rank etc.

Mohnbauer — 2012-12-12 16:07:17Z

military map 1898 - scroll to right above corner to find Przemysl and all stationed regiments,
right corner below has the legend(explantation) to the symbols:
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/img/oegarnkart1898.jpg
military map 1909: http://www.mlorenz.at/images/militaerterritorialeinteilung_1...

my guess would really be that he was stationed in Przemysl, as photo was taken there.

Re: Identify uniform timeframe and rank etc.

carlkotlarchik1 — 2012-12-07 22:24:31Z

Wonderful answer Mohnbauer (as always). I tried to contact you but you must have changed your email address. Please send me a note at my ahmilitary@gmail.com email so I can get your new email address.
CK

Re: Identify uniform timeframe and rank etc.

Mohnbauer — 2012-12-07 14:53:31Z

just also in this link to find:
Steuermannsauszeichnung der Pioniertruppe/ Helmsman´s award of the engineer corps, (Korporal) Note frequent use of little anchor as pendant for this lanyard.
last picture right on end of page.
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/badges/lanyard1.htm
http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/img/oe1898_06.jpg

Insignia
badges were awarded for special achievements. There was the coxswain badge, consisting of a steel cord with two green ball tassels, as well as the work of a badge messingnen disc with a black circle in the middle. In it was the pioneer badge of two crossed blades and staples. The infantry troops assigned to the pioneers wore their parolis a special forces unit pioneer badge.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.u.k._Pioniere#Abzeichen

no idea if a connection...

Re: Identify uniform timeframe and rank etc.

carlkotlarchik1 — 2012-12-06 22:34:53Z

I am not an expert on Austrian Military uniforms by any means. But this is clearly a Austro-Hungarian uniform judging from the scalloped pockets. The individual has no indication of rank on his collar. So, he was probably just a private. He is wearing the standard "general lanyard" on his left breast which was attached to his qualification badge. What is puzzling here is that the badge indicates connection to the Kreigsmarine (see the anchor). But they did not use this lanyard. A search for this badge did not yield any examples. Sorry.
CK

Identify uniform timeframe and rank etc.

Mike_Kulig — 2012-12-05 22:23:03Z

I believe this photo may be my great grandfather. He was born in Stryj, Galicia in 1874 (western Ukraine today). Any info derived from the photo would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Oskar Tannenbaum WW1 Records

eleanor_thom — 2012-10-28 20:57:38Z

Thanks Carl, we don't know what Oskar's parents' names were, but are hoping to find a death certificate as we recently managed to find his date of death. He died in 1937 in Berlin, so again, I'm not sure if this record will have survived. But we'll have a look.

I don't know if he was recruited from Romania or if he was already further West by that time. He married a Lithuanian. If anything turns up I'll be back here probably with more questions.

Once again many thanks.

Eleanor

Re: Oskar Tannenbaum WW1 Records

carlkotlarchik1 — 2012-10-28 20:49:02Z

You asked: "Would the next step be the war archives in Vienna? If so,"do" you know if they will answer an email inquiry or is it best to write a letter?"

Maybe. The Austrian Archives have the WWI records for Austrian soldiers. But it is unlikely that they will have any records for your area of the Empire for WWI. They would have records for all officers but not for the enlisted men. WWI records for soldiers from most regions outside of the current boundaries of Austria were recorded by or given to the successor nations. Sadly, most of these records were destroyed.

The Kriegs Archive will respond to emails but to do a search they will ask for a reasonable fee to do it. I always hate to say that finding the military records for a given individual is unlikely but I do think that is the situation here. Sorry.

Have you thought about looking for records of earlier ancestors? They are much more complete.
CK

Re: Oskar Tannenbaum WW1 Records

eleanor_thom — 2012-10-28 15:57:32Z

Hi Carl,

Many thanks for checking these records for me I really appreciate you help. Ah, that's a shame there's no mention. I will have to do some more digging yet. Would the next step be the war archives in Vienna? If so, you know if they will answer an email enquiry or is it best to write a letter?

All best,

Eleanor

Re: Oskar Tannenbaum WW1 Records

carlkotlarchik1 — 2012-10-28 12:59:12Z

The Kramerius site operated by Czech National Library is still on line. But there is no listing of an "Oskar Tannenbaum" in the casualty reports nor in the "Nachrichten über Verwundete und Kranke".
CK

Oskar Tannenbaum WW1 Records

eleanor_thom — 2012-10-27 21:25:53Z

I'm looking for any information about my Jewish great grandfather, Oskar Tannenbaum, born probably in Romania and died in Berlin in 1937. I know he fought on the Austrian side in WW1 and would like to find out more about this. It's possible he was doing some kind of translation work, but I can't be sure of that.

Are there any records available online, or elsewhere? I found another thread from last year that suggested there was a list somewhere, but I couldn't work the links and download necessary plug ins.

Many thanks!

Re: My grandfather's WW1 records

eleanor_thom — 2012-10-27 21:22:40Z

I realise this is a very old thread, but wondered if anyone could confirm if these records are still available online. I'm having problems using the site and can't seem to find any reference to the verlustlisten.

I'm looking for my Jewish great grandfather, Oskar Tannenbaum. I know he fought on the Austrian side in WW1 and died in 1937 in Berlin, but I know nothing more about him. He may have been born in Romania.

Re: Romanian soldiers from Bukovina W W I

Mohnbauer — 2012-10-26 12:57:58Z

ask at war-archive Vienna where you can find his military-service as being from Bukowina. you can ask in english.
Kriegsarchiv Wien: http://www.austria.gv.at/site/5003/default.aspx

Re: Romanian soldiers from Bukovina W W I

asperula — 2012-10-25 08:34:58Z

Are you sure he fought in the Dolomites? The fight started at the end of May 1915 on the Italian front.

Romanian soldiers from Bukovina W W I

mistermusic56rou — 2012-10-24 08:21:41Z

My grand-grand father was a soldier in the Austrian Army in WW I. He was Romanian from Bukovina,and he participeted in the Dolomites campaign between 1914-1915,where he was wounded and sent home in the spring of 1915 where he died shotly after that.
Could I possibly find any records about him in the Austrian Military Archives? His name was GEORGI GIURGIU,born in 1873 died in 1915.
Thank you

Re: Uniform

afkaminsky — 2012-10-11 23:55:58Z

I believe the photograph was taken in 1917/1918. It as reproduced in Binghamton, NY,after 1928. There are different unit "numerals" on each collar (they were brothers).

As I understand the story my grandfather was wounded by a machine gun bullet and was held as a POW (by Italy).

Re: Uniform

Mohnbauer — 2012-10-10 17:02:39Z

from which TIME is the picture with uniform?
can you post it here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovak_Legions

Looking for Hungarian Soldier Eszlari/y

catsrule_3 — 2012-09-10 21:46:43Z

I am looking for my great-great grandfather. He would have been anywhere between 1850-1930. Apparently he served in the Hungarian Military, other than that I do not know much more. His last name was Eszlari, or Eszlary. He was apparently killed by a horse. His wife was named Anna Kondrat, and his daughter was Margaret.
His name is either Michael (or some variant), or possibly even Edward (his brother or son even. We weren't sure if it was him or his son). Any help would be AMAZING. He was likely from Sajo Petri-Borsod Magye Uteu 14 Magyar Orzag.

if anyone knows any sites where I can look up information like this please let me know. I appreciate it greatly.
Thanks!
-Heather
StillChasingFireflies@yahoo.com

Re: Grundbuchblätter

debatecoach — 2012-08-10 02:08:34Z

In any case, the hospital angle seems promising. Given that he is listed at two different military hospitals, It would seem fruitful area for further research. Thank you for your help.

Robert Thomas

Re: Grundbuchblätter

carlkotlarchik1 — 2012-08-09 21:52:39Z

Please contact me off this site at my email address:

ahmilitary.gmail.com

Re: Grundbuchblätter

carlkotlarchik1 — 2012-08-09 21:48:41Z

Mohnbauer where have you been????? We need help here with German translations and your skill at reading old German script!
There are a lot of hospital records for each military hospital. So, we should be able to obtain these records for this individual.
CK

Re: Grundbuchblätter

Mohnbauer — 2012-08-09 17:16:59Z

yes there numbers - i´m not sure what the long words mean. maybe the medical designation of the injury or illness?
transferiert 1867 2.März/transferred 2nd March 1867........zum/to kuk. Garnisonsspital ?No 1/number 1? zu Wien zu Folge/to Vienna as a result .....
it´s also possible that he was wounded - who knows....

here the KuK Garnisonsspitäler/Garrison-hospitals in Vienna:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milit%C3%A4rische_Einrichtungen...
possible this was meant:
Garnisonsspital I
Das Militär-Garnisonshauptspital I befand sich im 9. Wiener Gemeindebezirk zwischen der Sensengasse und der Van-Swieten-Gasse hinter dem Josephinum. Zu diesem Spital gehörte auch das „Offiziersspital“ in der Sensengasse. Vorgänger war der „Kontumazhof“, ein Krankenhaus für ansteckende Krankheiten, das später in ein Armenhaus umgebaut worden war.
The main military garrison hospital I was in 9th District of Vienna, between the Sensen-alley and van Swieten-Gasse behind the Josephinum. this hospital included also the "officer-hospital" in the Sensen-alley. Predecessor was the "Kontumazhof," a hospital for contagious diseases, which was later converted into a poorhouse.
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Josephinum_P...

Re: Grundbuchblätter

Mohnbauer — 2012-08-09 17:08:41Z

Johann Mamrila
Geburtsort/place of birth Gross-Lignik
Geburtsbezirk/district of birth Magura
Geburtskreis oder - Komitat/birth-area Zips
Geburtsland/country of birth Ungarn
Geburtsjahr/birth-year 1843
Religion griechisch-katholisch/creek-catholic
Stand ledig/single
Profession ohne/without
zugewachsen aus/ 14.März 1865 gegen 3 fl Handgeld auf 8 .... und 2 ....zum 67. Infanterieregiment assentiert
(not all readable but says that he came on 14th March 1865 to the 67th Infantery-regiment, looks it was paid for that > Handgeld "hand-money")
Assentierung > MLA/call to military
http://www.weltkriege.at/Justiz/wehrgesetz.htm

Personenbeschreibung/Personal description
Statur/stature klein/small
Haare/hair lichtbraun/light-brown
Augen/eyes braun/brown
Augenbrauen/eye-brows ----
Nase/nose proportioniert/proportioned
Mund/mouth detto/as well
Kinn/chin -----
Angesicht/face rund/round
besondere Merkmale/Special Features keine/no
redet Sprachen/speaks languages slawisch/slavic
geimpft/vaccinated ja/yes
mißt/body size 60 3/4 ..Zoll

Nachgefolgt shows what happend later - not every word good readable but he was 1867
in Garnisons-Spital in Wien/Garnisons-Hospital in Vienna then later also at Garrison-Hospital in Kaschau/now Kosice Slovakia. think he worked there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%A1ice
can´t make out really the word at Veränderung/change - but can´t read really what´s standing at the hospital-entries, in fact what he DID there.

Re: Information from this portrait of WW1 soldier

Mohnbauer — 2012-08-09 16:27:43Z

http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/img/oe1898_03.jpg
picture for the one right side on horse says >>>
Ungarischer Infanterie-Regiment-Gefreiter Parade
Hungarian Infantry Regiment Corporal Parade

i thought that was understood ;-)

Unter einer Militärparade (auch Heerschau oder Revue) versteht man eine militärische Zeremonie, in der Soldaten zu besonderen staatlichen Anlässen öffentlich auftreten und dabei ihre Bewaffnung und Ausrüstung präsentieren.
Under a military parade (including parade or revue) refers to a military ceremony, the soldiers appear in public on special state occasions and demonstrate their weaponry and equipment.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milit%C3%A4rparade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_parade

Re: Grundbuchblätter

debatecoach — 2012-08-09 16:25:20Z

Thank you so much for the translation help! Very interesting about the handgeld. Any speculation about why that would have been received? As for the hospital reference in Vienna and Kaschau, I was thinking along those lines myself already. Right after the mention of Vienna, there is the number 2441, and right after Kaschau there is the number 4319. It dawned on me today that perhaps these could be patient ID numbers, and now that you note the Garrison Hospital, could this be true?

Robert Thomas

Re: Grundbuchblätter

debatecoach — 2012-08-08 16:33:03Z

Carl,

Thanks once again for your analysis. I'm looking more closely at the service record under magnification, and while I can't make out the German, the mention of Wien is shortly followed by 18 February 1867, followed by something I can't make out and then the number 2441. You are correct that the second number is 4319. Either way, I can make neither heads or tails of it all.

Robert Thomas

Re: Grundbuchblätter

carlkotlarchik1 — 2012-08-08 14:35:46Z

Unless he was an officer, which he does not appear to be, it is unlikely there are other military records for him. As I mentioned previously, IR67 had it's headquarters in Presov and not Kosice. IR34 had it's headquarters in Kosice but I see no mention of it in his record. There is a number in the Kosice comment, but it looks 43 or possibly 4319. I have no idea what this refers to.

Re: Grundbuchblätter

debatecoach — 2012-08-08 01:11:02Z

Carl,

Thank you for all of your help- I'm certainly farther along than I was. I might be able to clean up the final section some more as the size of the image drops as I zoom in. I'll try in a bit. In any case, I'm puzzled by the Kosice reference as well. He did live there until his death, and supposedly was a career soldier. He had children in Kosice from 1870-1880. Are there other records it would be worth searching out for Joahann?