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Johann Wittek

Johann Wittek

Posted: 8 May 2015 9:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
I found Johan Wittek's marriage record, 1st entry on the left page: http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/5133/?strana=16 . It is very hard to read.

Groom: Johann Wittek, (Unterjäger beim k.k. (kaiserlich-königlich) 12. Feldjäger Bataillon* Sohn --- Dominik Wittek, --- von Gaya, und Mutter Elisabetha geboren ?Fernberch? --- von Gaya aus Mähren.)
The translation I received about the groom is:
Unterjäger at Imperial-Royal 12th Feldjäger Battalion, son of --- Dominik Wittek, --- from Kyjov, and mother Elisabetha born (?Fernberch?) --- from Kyjov in Moravia.

Would someone be able to tell me something about what he did and about the regiment. Johann died before 1879. Thank you for any information.

Re: Johann Wittek

Posted: 9 May 2015 7:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
The information here is very confusing. The marriage record was from 1839. So I looked up the records for the 12th Jager Battalion in the Militar Schematismus from 1838 assuming that Johann was in the army before he got married. But the 12th jager battalion is listed Galician unit and not a Moravian unit (however it was garrisoned in Moravia). I have attached the header fior the records for the 12th jager battalion which show this information.
It looks like Johann was born around 1807.
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Re: Johann Wittek

Posted: 10 May 2015 6:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Carl, Thank you for your reply. Do you mean that the information that I gave is very confusing? If so, I agree ;-). What I gave was the translation that I got for the groom's information on his marriage record.
I don't understand the information you gave me, could you please give me some more information about the Battalion and what Johann Wittek may have done there. Thank you for your help.

Re: Johann Wittek

Posted: 10 May 2015 12:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Jagers were riflemen who were specialized infantrymen. They were good marksmen and were primarily used for reconnaissance, skirmishing and covering bodies of heavier troops.

I'm confused about Johann because the marriage record indicates that he was from Moravia. But his Jager unit was made up with men from Galicia (although the battalion was garrisoned in Moravia) in the mid 1830s. Previously, the 12th Jager Battalion was from northern Italy (Lombardy) but it too was stationed in Moravia. So it is puzzling why Johann was in this battalion rather than in Battalion #5 or 6 which were battalions from Moravia.
Austrian army regiments and battalions were constructed with men from a certain region of the Empire. This was done primarily because of language differences. The empire had at least 11 different ethnic groups, each with their own language. So enlisted men would be drawn from a single region (but not necessarily officers who were often Austrians). Given that there was often ethnic unrest in the empire, regiments were often moved to another region of the empire after they were conscripted and trained. This made it harder for soldiers to desert and if the unit was needed to put down revolts, men might not fight against their own ethnic people if they were garrisoned in their own region. Anyway, I checked to see if Johann was an officer which might explain why he was in this unit but he was not. Nevertheless, the marriage record clearly says he was in the 12th Battalion.

Re: Johann Wittek

Posted: 10 May 2015 12:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Carl,Thank you very much for the explanation, it is clearer now. I suppose there always has to be some sort of mystery which may or may not be explained. Thank you for your help once again.

Re: Johann Wittek

Posted: 9 Jun 2015 2:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Jun 2015 2:38PM GMT
k. u. k. Böhmisches Feldjägerbataillon Nr. 12
Errichtet: 1813 – XIV. Armeekorps – 8. Infanterie-Truppendivision – 15. Infanteriebrigade
Nationalitäten: 67 % Tschechen – 32 % Deutsche – 1 % Sonstige
Ergänzungsbezirk: Krakau
Garnison: Gaßlöss -> Cavalese, Italy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese
Kommandant: Major Dante Bontadi
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.u.k._Feldjäger

Very confusing always the A-H Military. ;)
Found some written about the Nr. 12 in connection with the Nr. 22.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._u._k._Böhmisches_Feldj&...

Re: Johann Wittek

Posted: 9 Jun 2015 8:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much for the extra information, it is very much appreciated.
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