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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>HELLO!&lt;br&gt;The "Northeastern Boundary Dispute" aka The Aroostook War, officially started when the Lt Gov. of New Brunswick sent a letter to the Governor of Maine and said that Maine personnel operating north of the Aroostook River Valley were operating on his territory and threatened military action. This was on or about Feb. 14th, 1839. The conflict had been brewing ever since a series of incidents occurred in the fall and winter of 1825. Contemporary proponents say the issue was "timber" and that was a large part of the issue. Substitute "oil" and one gets a contemporary sense of how important timber was to both sides. The secondary issue was a new Queen, civil unrest in upper and lower Canada and a need for the government to have a year long route for its military personnel other than the Mississippi River to Great Lakes route. For the US, we were doing the same type of action in the south with Spain over the terms of the southern boundary that was set in the treaty of 1819 at the Sabine and Red River, but we wanted south to the Rio Grande except Mexico didnt want to sell it to us, so President Jackson was "working" on just taking the territory in question. In 1839 the total US federal troop strength was 1200 men and most of them were moving Cherokee to Oklahoma, thus Congress acknowledged it was their job but told us to handle our land issues and they would reimburse us. If you have the actual petition for pension, that would help a lot, if not, I can get a copy of it for you. There were four components to the forces serving during the years 1838-1842: the original sheriff's posse, the volunteer reinforcement posse, the Drafted Militia and the Armed Civil Posse which was the largest component serving from May 1839 until the end of 1842. I have the records of the second and third groups as well as one of the rosters for the first group and several rosters for the last group as well as a variety of pension records, certificates of discharge, travel records etc. The first and last groups were under the direction of the State Land Agent's office per an agreement negotiated between Washington and Frederickton and were not preserved in the Maine State Adjutant General's office. Many remained within the personal papers of the various company clerks or as with the volunteer reinforcement posse records, they were put into a subbasement storage area and forgotten until the mid 1960s when Viet Nam issues resulted in the need for additional office space at Camp Keyes and someone remembered this room. Once opened, the room contained boxes of moldy, rotting papers which were sorted and either sent to the state archives or thrown away as not salvagable-a lot of great information was thus lost. I will look through my indexes to see if I can find those with your surname. It would be easier if you could email me directly with as much information as you have on where he lived, served and when  plus when he petitioned and when he was awarded the compensationand any other particulars you have on your relative. I have obtained pension requests from as late as 1883 out of New Hampshire from a soldier who received a gunshot wound in his knee but didnt file for the pension until he was unable to do manual labor. People were either hardier or more socially aware of where their money was coming from so didnt ask until they absolutely needed it. &lt;br&gt;My email address is &lt;a href="mailto://obnn9119@yahoo.com"&gt;obnn9119@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;As for the designation. Our Legislature passed a resolve directing our Congressional delegation to acquire it and they designated Sen. Snowe as the ranking member, to draft the legislation. We were "tweeking" a second draft and doing research when the 2012 election arrived and She unfortunately did not seek re-election. Her successor, Angus King has not responded to my requests for an appointment and Sen. Collins' office is not interested in pursuing the action so..... we tread water while working at more information,keeping the interest alive and before we go shopping for a candidate that will assist us next election. In the meantime we have identified and gotten approval in Augusta for several historical markers to be erected.&lt;br&gt;I hope to hear from you.&lt;br&gt;Bertie</description>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>Hello Bertie,&lt;br&gt;I was doing a search on my great-great-grandfather, Eli Gosse, and came across your 2010 message here on ancestry about the veterans of the Aroostook War.  I know that Eli received a pension because he served and, I think, was wounded or injured.  I have copies of records from the Maine Legislature which had to pass legislation to approve his pension.  I don't know hardly anything about the Aroostook War.  Is there any way to find out how he served and in what unit and under whose command?&lt;br&gt;Charley Gosse (my great-grandfather added the "e" to the end of our name)&lt;br&gt;p.s. did they ever get recognition for their veterna status?</description>
      <pubDate>2013-03-24 18:39:49Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history HP 1177</title>
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      <description>Its been a while since I have seen anything but just wanted anyone interested to know that on June 10, 2011 The 125th Maine Legislature passed in both Chambers HP 1177 requesting The President of the United States and the respective members of the US Congress as well as the Maine Congressional Delegation itself, to designate the Protectors and Defenders of the Northeastern Boundary of the United States and State of Maine as United States Veterans. If the Congress or President acts on this information, the Northern Maine Veteran's Cemetery Board will vote on including a fifth wall in the Veteran's cemetery at Caribou and the men who "walked the walk" up to the Aroostook will finally get the recognition they deserve for not only getting the northeastern boundary settled by all the way west to beyong Minnesota. The letters have been sent to Washington DC by Maine's Sec of State and now We need the help of all the other members of congress so if you felieve this is a designation long (191 years since Maine made the first request of the federal government to establish a secure border) over due please write you member of Congress-both chambers- to contact a Maine Representative (Rep. Michaud is actually on the House Veterans affairs committee)and ask how to co-sponsor or at least pledge to support this "no fiscal cost piece of legislation. Thanks Bertie</description>
      <pubDate>2011-07-14 08:48:29Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Aroostook War research</title>
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      <description>Thank you for taking the time to respond. Unfortunately my attempts to learn more at the Maine State Archives was unsuccessful. Records for the Aroostook War seem to be scarce and incomplete. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you, Or anyone else out there, know whether an actual form or card is fill out by an enlistee back in 1840? As I mentioned earlier, the only thing I was able to find was the enlistment report and that was filled out by a clerk, not the person actually enlisting. The Milan that I found was listed as William. The name on the list previous to his was William as well and there were several Williams on this single list. I am questioning whether the clerk misquoted the name when filling out the report. If there is an enlistment card or something that the enlistee actually singed, that would help me out. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I thought that pay records might help me as well but I have not been able to locate those either. The national records seem to jump from 1812 to the indian wars in the mid 1840's. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lastly, since my grandfather learned the information from his grandfather directly and it was his father that had died, I feel fairly certain that at least the fact of his death in the Aroostook War is accurate. I did also find a news article about my gggrandfather Thomas being wounded in the Civil War and it identified his father as dying in the Aroostook War but it didn't list his name.      </description>
      <pubDate>2011-03-14 16:41:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Aroostook War research</title>
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      <description>I know of two general books on the Aroostook War.  The better of the two (containing quotes and extracts from primary records) is Geraldine Tidd Scott's _Ties of Common Blood_; Bowie, MD: Heritage Books, Inc., 1992.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ms. Scott used many types of sources to identify units and persons involved in the conflict.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;None of the rosters she shows mention a person with a Milan-type surname.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course it is possible that she overlooked some surviving records.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other hand, all free white able-bodied males aged roughly 16 to 60 (varies by time and place) were expected to be available for County militia duty within the County, although most did not have any active duty service.  It could well be that a local fort was garrisoned on a rotating basis during a perceived threat, but that a threat did not materialize in that time and place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem of family stories is one that many of us tangle with.  People who tell something long after the facts may be blending a partially recalled story with their own conclusions.  If my time machine were working, I could get answers to many questions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to locate surviving rosters from this time period, a trip to the Maine State Archives in Augusta would be on your to-do list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good hunting!</description>
      <pubDate>2011-03-12 18:45:10Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I have read several threads on the Aroostook War so I am sure someone out there can point me in the right direction for my research. &lt;br&gt;How do I acquire the military roster and pay roll records for 1840 1842? I am trying to solve a family mystery and would appreciate any help folks can provide.&lt;br&gt;My gggrandfather Thomas Milan was born in 1840 in Hancock County. His death certificate states that his father was Patrick Milan who was "foreign born". Another document I have states Patrick was from Northern Ireland. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My grandfather (Frank Milan) told me that his grandfather (Thomas) explained to him that Patrick had fought in the Aroostook War and had died in Houlton while he was in his twenties. I can find no record of Patrick ever serving in the war but have found a William Milan who died at Hancock Barracks in 1842 just after the treaty was signed. I have found no record of a "William Milan" ever existing in Hancock County at all. I have found the Enlistment Roster identifing William, but no other documents to support this information as factual. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that William and Patrick are one and the same person so I need some help proving/disproving this theory. I found a Patrick Milan who was baptised in Ireland in 1818 and I believe that my ggggrandfather was born between 1815-1818. I believe that he immigrated to present day Maine in the mid to late 1830's as he (Patrick) married my ggggrandmother in 1839. Thomas was born in 1840 and my ggggrandmother remarried in 1845. I am thinking that Patrick arrived after the 1830 census and because of his enlistment in 1840, he isn't listed anywhere in the 1840 census. Since he died in 1842, he was never identified in any US Census. &lt;br&gt;I am in hopes that payroll and muster records will provide useful information that can solve my mystery.        </description>
      <pubDate>2011-03-09 18:45:15Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>Sadly, Im not surprised- even today with all we know about the effects of search and destroy combat missions, even without direct confrontation &amp;amp; the deadly effects it has on soldiers, I have been fighting the "system" just to get someone in a position of responsibility to stand up and say that these soldiers should at least be entitled to Veteran's Burial Markers! Sen Snowe wants to give medals to "Cold War" Spooks but her office wont even make an appointment for me to discuss burial markers for the Protectors and Defenders of the Northeastern Boundary. And Rep Michaud's staff says he isnt interested in doing anything else for us. I still keep plugging away and find strange little bits and pieces in the most obscure documents. The Eastern Argus has some really good tidbits. Anyone interested is always welcome to contact me at my email- &lt;a href="mailto://obnn9119@yahoo.com"&gt;obnn9119@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2010-04-03 23:02:48Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I just found this in the April 23, 1852 Rockland (Maine) Gazette:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;"WIDOWS OF THE SOLDIERS IN THE 'AROOSTOOK WAR.'  We learn that the Department at Washington having charge of the Bounty and business, has so constructed the Bounty Land Law that widows and children of Aroostook Soldiers, deceased, do not come into the provisions of that act and consequenty are not entitled to bounty and."</description>
      <pubDate>2010-02-24 23:54:31Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Bounty Land Bill</title>
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      <description>This appeared in the Apr. 9, 1852 issue of the Rockland (Maine) Gazette:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;"The Bounty Land Bill, recently passed by Congress, not only provides for the assignability of land warrants, but it gives bounty land to all who performed military service for thirty days or more in the war of 1812, and in the Aroostook war, under the State or United States authority; provided their services have been paid by the government. The 'Aroostook soldiers' have been paid agreeably to the provisions of the bill."</description>
      <pubDate>2010-02-22 02:54:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>Bertie, I am sorry I don't have quick answer for you, but i will keep looking.  I have sooo much stuff.  Don</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-20 03:43:05Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>Don&lt;br&gt;You might be able to help with one puzzle- I found Eli Goss, b 1814 Danville, living in Greenwood in 1839; (Eli's parents Joshua Goss and Lois Rowe, Joshua descended from Thomas and second wife Eunice while our Thomas descended from Thoams and 1st wife Mary Tarr) member of H Company of 3rd Reg 2 B 6th Division. He served under Capt Amos Noyes but I cant find Oliver Goss who was one of those unrecognized original posse members. He served with Capt Thomas Emery of Hampden, enlisting after McIntire was kidnapped, but before Gen Order No 7. He should fit into our line since at least one, perhaps two of Thomas' children were up in Penobscot County by then but he doesnt appear anywhere on the traditional family websites and no Oliver born in Maine appears in the 1880 census. So before I start scouring the earlier censuses and hope he lived to 1850- I thought I would ask.  Bertie</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-17 09:29:05Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>Don, your Clark recruiter must have recruited my Knowlens into the war then. John Nelson and William never returned and Freeman returned less an arm. The Clarks mentioned in the Journal were a Mr David J Clark of Glenburn who was associated with Capt Nye's group at Fort Jarvis on the Fish River (later Fort Kent) in April 1839 and Capt James Clark who was military commander at Fort Fairfield in May, 1839. I did a quick look through rosters to learn more about Capt Clark. He commanded a light infantry company with men from the Hampden/Herman area of Penobscot County. Watson R Goss was a member of Capt William Mills Rifle Co which rendezvoued in Bangor on Feb 20th, 1839. Pay records indicate that he was in Bangor on that day because he was given "0" miles travel. Another unusual note on the muster report-which was created on or about Feb 20th, is that his name appears near the end of the roster, out of alphebetical sequence. He's number 43 after James Young. Also following his name are those members of the rifle co- about 15 who left the company at Fort Fairfield on April 11th to enlist in the Civil Posse. On the pay roster he is placed correctly, No 15. For 2 months and 25 days his pay- less expenses- was $29.75 (that included a clothing allowance of $7.08 of which he only used $4. 25) He mustered out May 15th in Bangor.&lt;br&gt; My gr gr grandfather's Uncle Thomas Knowlen married the niece of your Goss ancester-Thomas Knowlen 2nd married Clarissa Rowe, daughter of Dorcas Goss and Gilbert Ayers Rowe. Thomas as born 1822 in Levant and Clarissa b 1825 in Levant- both ended up in Masardis in the 1840's and at Portage for the 1850 census. The 100th Anniversary booklet put out by Masardis in 1933 says that Mrs Goss (I presume Elizabeth) joined her husband in Masardis and laughed about the allegations of infidelity he was rumored to be involved in. </description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-17 07:57:38Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>  Hi Bertie,  It's great to hear you are compiling what seems to be a great untaking, but rewarding adventure.  the dates from Col Thomas Goss B: Gloucester, MA 29 May 1780&lt;br&gt;Married Elizabeth Hool Whitham 26 May 1998, Durham, ME D: 1872 in Levant while living with his Daughter Tammy Clark and her Family.(My line)  When his consort Betsy Nelson died in 1839 in Masardis, he was upset and moved to the Machias River. Then moved again into the wilderness on the road to Fish River.  ne died at 92. Buried in West Branch Cem, Levant.  &lt;br&gt;As side note story about the Goss's and the War, Watson Rand Goss was part of the troop from Danville, He came into camp and seeing his new commanding officer blurted out "Hey, there's Pa!". &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Asked about Nathan's years of service, Yes Civil War 28 July 1862 to 15 June 1865.  He started recruiting in Masardas.  His Diary is in the Maine state Achives.&lt;br&gt;Which Clark in mentioned in the jounal?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have other questions or and answers, let me know.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, Don</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-15 19:05:41Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>The first draft of the book "The Protectors and Defenders of the Northeastern Frontier" has been submitted to publisher-Picton Press. Of course there are tweeks, so i am in the process of revising and hope to have final draft by early spring. Its approximately 375 pgs and about 95% original document material, mostly Whig &amp;amp; Courier news articles, military rosters, claims, pension requests &amp;amp; William Parrot's journal and letter book while Asst Land Agent at Fort Fairfield, (Ive been able to identify the men stationed at Fort Kent on the 1840 census). I have some deeds, legislative resolves, committee reports, and correspondance between Augusta &amp;amp; Washington DC. I am working on a second volume that deals exclusively with the political aspects- working title "When Governments act in Bad Faith", and a 3rd Volume that hopes to track what happened/where they went after the conflict. My goal is to see that these men are recognized and acquire the right to have veteran's burial markers placed on their final resting place. That involves identifying who they are, and where they are buried. Maine has an organization, Maine Old Cemetery Assn, that is a good resource but Maine Veterans are buried in all 49 other states so a lot of help would be needed, and a lot of Congressmen need to be pushed to get the Act of Congress through. &lt;br&gt;The great thing about the rosters is that they identify not only the troops that were drafted into the various companies that were published in 1904 but those that were not drafted, along with the towns that the companies originally came from. Im working right now on the Drafted Companies of Capt Hall and Capt Barnard- many of their soldiers came from 1st Reg 2 Brigade 6th Division out of Bethel, Rumford, Greenwood, Oxford, but some of the division rosters show neighbors going into Capt Ludden's company of Light Infantry. Claims show Benjamin Brown transported troops to Augusta, they stayed at Eagle Hotel awaiting deployment to the Aroostook under Col Andrews. Many of these young men do not appear on the 1840 census so I suspect they were single men living and helping on the family farm, thus not identified until the 1850 census when many would have moved, married or died. &lt;br&gt;And I am sorry about the website. I am techno challenged and am still seeking someone to help update it.&lt;br&gt;You didnt mention years-Maine's 20th- was that Civil war? &lt;br&gt;And what are birth-death dates of Col Thomas Goss? GAR Post 149 in Masardis was named Knowlen Post for sacrifices in my family.&lt;br&gt;Bertie</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-15 11:09:08Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I am interested in any thing from Maine.  My family roots Include Clark, Goss, Cowperthwaite and a few more.  My Ggrandfather Nathan S. Clark fought with the 20th Maine. please e-mail about your book.  Col. Thomas Goss was my GGGfather.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I checked out you web site, not bad but some broken links.</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-14 08:01:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Edmond Sylvester "Nip" Pruneau Sr.</title>
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      <description>Edmond Sylvester "Nip" Pruneau Sr., 88, Sullivan, passed away Friday, June 6, 2008, at Phelps County Regional Medical Center, Rolla. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mr. Pruneau was born Nov. 24, 1919, in Crystal City, the son of Emil Pruneau and wife Magdalene, nee Linderer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On May 8, 1940, he was united in marriage to Eleanor E. Knickmeyer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mr. Pruneau was employed at Pittsburgh Plate Glass Company, Crystal City, and the TNT plant, Weldon Spring.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He also owned a service station on Old Highway 66, Sullivan, and worked for L.E. Meyers electrical contracting company, Overland.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mr. Pruneau was a member of the Knights of Columbus Council 4858, the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers for 60 years and St. Anthony Parish, Sullivan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was preceded in death by his parents; his wife; one granddaughter, Erin Pruneau; three brothers, Joseph, Martin and Anthony Pruneau; and three sisters, Lorene Pruneau, Louise Jokerst and Helen Roskowske.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He is survived by one daughter, Joan Koebbe and husband Gene, Sullivan; three sons, Ed Pruneau and wife Gail, Washington, Dan Pruneau and wife Sue, Plainfield, Ill., and Mark Pruneau and wife Melora, Webster Groves; seven grandchildren, Gretchen Harman and husband Ron, Ballwin, and Monica, Ashley, Matt, John, Mike and Eleanor Pruneau; three great-grandchildren, Tyler, Joshua and Meghan Harman; one brother, Leroy Pruneau and wife Gladys, Crystal City; four sisters, Eleanor Hill and husband John and Emilene AuBuchon, all of Crystal City, Virginia McComack, Festus, and Rita Coleman, Roseburg, Ore.; other relatives and many friends.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A funeral Mass was held Wednesday, June 11, at St. Anthony Catholic Church, Sullivan, with the Rev. Dennis Zachies officiating.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interment was in the church cemetery.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Memorials to St. Anthony's Elementary School, Sullivan, or the American Lung Association are preferred.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The family was served by Eaton Funeral Home, Sullivan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Washington Missourian 18 June 2008&lt;br&gt;A Volunteer&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-06-19 19:06:13Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>Thank you. I finally did send the information to Chip Gagnon this morning in the mail so I suspect he will get that census information on line on his site fairly soon. The penmanship is fairly easy to read but I am unfamiliar with many of the French names so didnt even want to try.&lt;br&gt;My website is &lt;a href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~me1837" target="_blank"&gt;www.rootsweb.com/~me1837&lt;/a&gt; my email is &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://nome1837@gwi.nwt"&gt;nome1837@gwi.nwt&lt;/a&gt;. I also have a Canadian ancestry-my father's father(Henry Earl Bartley) was born in Carleton County, NB 1895 his father's(Havelock Bartley) mother's(Abigail Fulton) father (Fulton) migrated to Mars Hill, Maine in the early 1860's and Havelock joined his maternal grandfather in 1907. I have been able to trace back to Digby, Nova Scotia 1820 but then get stuck. &lt;br&gt;Bertie</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-25 17:08:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>I would really be interested in seeing it. Please tell us, which is your site?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;Sharyn</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-25 00:57:13Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I know Chris doesnt have it because I havent sent it to him yet. I was in the middle of photocopying and got sidetracked then never got back to it. Quirk of fate to remind me I need to send it to him. My site is more focused on the Upper Aroostook so anything I discover regarding his region I send to him.  Since the journal was in response to a joint legislative resolve from both Maine and Massachusetts and was submitted to the states to account for expenses, Im not sure the one I have is the same work as the known Coffin Journal. </description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-25 00:03:07Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Yes, I am aware of the Coffin Journal but have not read it. I do not see an 1825 census on the Upper Saint John Valley site so am wondering if it is online anywhere?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;Sharyn&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://meow8@verizon.net"&gt;meow8@verizon.net&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-24 23:42:14Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I noticed that you have posted several messages concerning New Brunswick families as was wondering if you might be interested in a Journal written in Sept/Oct 1825 by Massachusetts Land Agent George Coffin who did a census/survey of the Upper St John/Madawaska settlements. Very detailed and lots of names.&lt;br&gt;The Journal also made note of the forest fire (they were traveling to Frederickton when it started) that would later be called The Miramachi Fire. It destroyed almost &lt;br&gt;6,000 acres of prime NB timberlands, destroyed at least 3 settlements, killed hundreds, left thousands homeless and burned Frederickton- resulting in NB needing to take timber from the District of Maine Patent to recover from the disaster when London refused to send aid to Lt Gov Douglass.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-24 19:23:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Died in Service-Omitted from Rosters pt 4 Capt John Ford/Boulton</title>
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      <description>Capt John Ford and his Kennebec Volunteers, went into service on Feb 15, 1839. Daily report Lincoln-Feb 20th, 1839 says that a John Bolton was present at Roll Feb 19th but was never seen again. Lodging from Milford lists a William R Bolton as well.  Claims indicates that of Capt Ford's 57 privates- volunteers-, 45 lived in Augusta, 2 in Readfield, 6 in Hallowell, 1 in Fairfield, 1 in Cumberland, 1 in Gardiner &amp;amp; 1 in Pittsfield. Company officers: LT  Abner True, Ensign Wallace McKenny, Sgt William Garrison, SGT George Bennett, SGT Franklin Foster, Sgt Nathun Moore, Cpl Daniel Bennett, Cpl Daniel Littlefield. Any information is appreciated-never credited with service.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-24 19:11:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Died in Service-Omitted from Rosters pt 3 Mrs Boulter</title>
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      <description>Mrs. Sewell Boulter-Husband was with Land Agent Rufus McIntire arresting trespassers when they were taken to New Brunswick in chains. During thier absence, "worry" resulted in the "decline" of Mrs. Boulter. When her husband was released and returned home he found that his wife had died in his absence. Any clue as to her identify would be appreciated. </description>
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      <title>Re: Died in Service-Omitted from Rosters pt 3  Jackman/Wood</title>
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      <description>Pvt Sewell Jackman member of Lt Hiram Hamilton's 2nd Division Infantry Rend Augusta, Discharged Bangor. Died April 1, 1893 Pay received by father Eben Jackman. Some of Lt Hamilton's soldiers were from Oxford Co.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pvt Stephen Wood Member of Capt Joshua Elder's Company&lt;br&gt;Rend Augusta. Capt Elder belonged to 6th Division Oxford Co.Pvt Wood traveled 190 miles to rendezevous. Died March 25, 1839 Pay received by Samuel Harris, witnessed by D.P. Child, left wife behind. </description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-24 18:55:51Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Died in Service-Omitted from Rosters pt 2  Ames/Grover</title>
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      <description>Pvt Almarin Ames member of Capt Samuel Fish's Company Infantry Bangor-Houlton. Died at Houlton Apr 10. Pay received by Joseph Child&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pvt John Grover member of Lt Hiram Hamilton's Infantry 2nd Division Rend. Augusta Discharged Bangor. Became ill in service, died Sept 14th. Final pay on April 17, 1839 was received by his mother-Sally Grover. Some in Lt Hamilton's company were from Oxford County.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-24 18:46:31Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Died in Service-Omitted from Rosters pt 1</title>
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      <description>Prior to issuance of General Order No 7 on Feb 19, 1839 1150 militia were "in service" to The Land Agent's Office and were at The Aroostook River as Volunteers. Because they were already "in Service" they were omitted from the Drafted Militia Rolls and their service is not recognized. &lt;br&gt;Additionally at least six men died in service and at least two are not even credited with service. Drafted rolls do not indicate prior Division membership. I would like to know locations of residences, family etc if you have any information.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-24 18:42:15Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Ardis E. (Temple) FRAMNESS (1916 - 2007)</title>
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      <description>Green Bay Press Gazette&lt;br&gt;Posted May 25, 2007&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Framness, Ardis E. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ardis E. Framness, 91, 5804 State Hwy 42, Two Rivers, died early Wednesday morning, May 23, 2007, at Aurora Medical Center of Manitowoc County. Ardis was born March 29, 1916, in Oconto Falls, daughter of the late Alvin and Navy Wilson Temple. She attended schools in Oconto Falls, the University of Wisconsin- Milwaukee, and the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh. On Aug. 16, 1941, Ardis married Rupert A. Framness at Green Valley. He preceded in death Feb. 18, 1998. She taught in the Twonline, Morgan, and South Branch rural schools of Oconto county from 1934 to 1941 and in the Oshkosh Schools from 1963 to 1978 when she retired. She was a member of First Lutheran Church. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Survivors include two sons and daughters-in-law, Rupert A. and Ellen Framness, Town of Franklin; Douglas I. and Sherrie Framness, Marshfield; five grandchildren, Mark and Lorie Framness, Appleton; Brian Framness, De Pere; Lars Framness, Middleton; Siri Framness, Gardiner, Mont.; Chris Framness, Marshfield; one brother-in-law and three sisters-in-law, Nestor (Dorothy) Framness, Columbia Falls, Mont.; Joyce Lockstein, Gillett; Elaine Mercer, Gillett; nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends also survive. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She was preceded in death by her parents; husband, Rupert Framness Sr.; half-sisters, Evangeline Temple Ochs, Erma Temple and Verna Regal Zippel; half-brothers, Ernest Temple and Ervin Regal, sisters, Audrey Temple Kasten and Evelyn Althea Temple Siegel. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. on Tuesday, May 29, 2007, at First Lutheran Church, 521 North Eighth Street, Manitowoc. Rev. Steven Solberg will officiate. Burial will follow at Volk Family Cemetery, Oconto Falls. Relatives and friends may call at the church on Tuesday from 9 a.m. until the time of service at 11 a.m. The Jens Family Funeral Home &amp;amp; Crematory is assisting the Framness family. &lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-05-25 13:14:50Z</pubDate>
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      <title>The Aroostook War - unique in history</title>
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      <description>The Aroostook War is unique because there was never a shot fired (though prisoners were taken)! By the treaty of 1783, at th close of the Revolutionary War, one half of the St. John's River belonged to Maine. After the War of 1812, the British claimed about one third of the land that was supposed to belong to Maine. In 1827 there was an agreement to let William, King of Netherlands, arbitrate the disagreement as to which boundary was valid according to the treaty with the British. His decision was that the boundary was not the one sought by Maine according to the 1783 treaty. Conflicts began between British lumbermen and American officers. Governor Harvey of New Brunswick proclaimed that British territory had been invaded and ordered out the militia. Within  a week 10, 000 Maine militia were ready for action and the US congress authorized sending another 50,000 troops. Governor Harvey decided not to take military possession of the disputed territory and Governor Fairfiled agreed to not disturb any New Brunswick settlements. In 1842 the boundary dispute was settled by treaty and the "war" was over.</description>
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      <title>General Order, No. 5 - Major General Isaac Hodsdon</title>
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      <description>Headquarters, Augusta, February 16, 1839&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Major General Isaac HODSDON, third Division, Maine Militia: You are hereby ordered to detach, forthwith, from the Division under your command, by draft or otherwise one thousand men, properly officered and equipped. This force will rendezvous at Bangor and proceed at the earliest possible moment, to the place occupied by a civil force under the Land Agent on or near the Aroostook River, and render such aid to the Land Agent as may enable him to carry into effect a Resolve of 24th of January, relating to trespassers upon the public lands.  John FAIRFIELD, Gov. and Commander-in-Chief&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isaac HODSDON&lt;br&gt;Rank: Major General&lt;br&gt;Period of service: 17 Feb 1839-26 Apr 1839&lt;br&gt;Residence: Bangor, Maine&lt;br&gt;Place of rendezvous: Bangor, Maine&lt;br&gt;Place of Discharge: Bangor, Maine&lt;br&gt;Number of servants actually kept in service: 4&lt;br&gt;Number of horses actually kept in service: 7&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: Historical Sketch and Roster of Commissioned Officers and Enlisted Men Called into Service for the Protection of the Northeastern Frontier of Maine from February to May 1839; Published in accordance with Council Order passed November 24, 1903; reprinted by Clearfield Co., 1989</description>
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      <title>Re: General Order, No. 5 - Major General Isaac Hodsdon</title>
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      <description>The Major General was the father. John L. HODSON served as an Aid [sic] to his father from 20 Feb 1839 to 25 Apr 1839. His place of residence was Exeter, place of rendezvous was Bangor, place of discharge was Bangor. He kept 2 servants and 3 horses while in service. He was entitled to additional allowance as Division Inspector for 24 days.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: Aroostook War: Historical Sketch (see other messages for full reference); p 22</description>
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      <title>Officers in Service - Aroostook War - Part I</title>
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      <description>Major General Isaac HODSON served 17 feb 1839-26 Apr 1839; lived at Bangor; rendezvous place Bangor; place of dischareg Bangor; number of miles between residence and rendezvous (blank); subsistence number of rations 200; forage number of rations (blank); number of servants kept in service 4; number of horses kept in service 7.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Major General Ezekiel FOSTER served 25 feb 1839-5 Apr 1839; lived at Pembroke; rendezvous place Calais; place of discharge Calais; number of miles between residence and rendezvous 80; subsistence number of rations 80; forage number of rations (received forage in kind); number of servants kept in service 2; number of horses kept in service 0.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Division Inspector Joseph C. STEVENS served 13 mar 1839-30 Apr 1839 and 11 May 1839-13 May 1839; lived at Bangor; rendezvous place Bangor; place of discharge Bangor; number of miles between residence and rendezvous (blank); subsistence number of rations (blank); forage number of rations (blank); number of servants kept in service 2; number of horses kept in service 3. (Note: entitled to additional rations for extra service and commanding separate post 9 days.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Division Inspector Joseph N. PRESCOTT served 24 feb 1839-5 Apr 1839; lived at Calais; rendezvous place Calais; place of discharge Calais; number of miles between residence and rendezvous (blank); subsistence number of rations (blank); forage number of rations (blank); number of servants kept in service 1; number of horses kept in service 0.&lt;br&gt;</description>
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      <title>Re: General Order, No. 5 - Major General Isaac Hodsdon</title>
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      <description>Is this  Isaac Hodsdon b. 12/18/1781 d. 5/24/1874 or his adopted son John Littlefield Hodsdon b. 5/9/1815 d. 1895 who possibly adopted his fathers first name also?</description>
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