Hi - I'd be happy to share what I have, but after I posted the note I realized I have made a couple errors. First, after I checked my info I realized that Deilman would have been to old to be Gertrude's father. Second, the information did not come from the Koppes family book, as I stated. It came from the Kulp family history, which I must have got on line a few years ago (I take better notes now). I started my search for information on Christan Berkey (1758-1828) so my information on Deilman is related to his daughter, Gertrude who is married to Christian. Here's the info & sources I have: (a) I note that Gertrude Ziegler Kolb is listed on p. 162 of the Kulp Family History.(b) There is a Deilman Kolb m. to a Gertrude Schumakher on the Bucks Co. (PA) 1760 census. (c) Christian Berkey and Gertrude Kolb show up on the 1780 census in Lehigh Co. (d) My notes seem quite certain about a Dielman Kolb m. to an Agnes Schumacher, with daughter Gertrude Kolb (Culp) of that time. Hope you can make something of this mess - I have a few more notes if you need clarification. I'm very sorry - I remembered the Koppes information when I read the posting. However, I can tell you about the descendants!