Hi, I recently discovered that my grandmother on my father's side, Helen Elizabeth Seitz-b-1908,NY, her parents- Charles Seitz b-1879, Brooklyn, NY, and Selma ? b-1879, Pennsylvania. (don't know maiden name yet). My recent discovery was Charles' parents- George Seitz b-1852-3, Wuerttemberg, Germany, and Josephine Ganzle, b-1856-7, NY. George owned a bar on McKibbin St., Brooklyn, NY around mid-1870's-1890's. Charles was one of about 10 children, of which only three lived to adulthood. This is all I know, I know nothing of Josephine's family. Hope to hear from you. my e-mail is trishbuell@bluemoo.net.