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Re: Rheese

Posted: 17 Nov 2014 1:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Well done, so at least we have identified one sibling. So Rosa considers herself to be a BROWN, and Mary Charlotte a RHEESE. I wouldn't read too much into Rosa giving her father's first name as 'Edward', as she possibly didn't know her biological father's first name. Their respective ages pretty well match up on both their mother's death cert and their marriages - Rosa born c1860 and Mary Charlotte c1863 but I am still not seeing anything worthy of following up in NSW.

I started to think that the Edward RHEESE and Alicia SANDS family were a red herring and just a coincidence with the boy's names but now I have changed my mind back again!!

On FamilySearch the baptisms for Thomas and William RHEESE have been indexed. They took place on the same day, 5 Oct 1876, in St Joseph's Catholic Church at Gunnedah, NSW. William was aged 9 and Thomas aged 3, which I know don't quite match the ages on Rosa's death cert. The entries are written in Latin and the mother has been transcribed as 'Rosae Alicae LAND'. I do think the 'S' has been mistaken for an 'L' in the surname (if her name was definitely SANDS), and the first names could be 'Rosa Alicia' or 'Rose Alice'. This would also mean that they had not long been in Queensland before Rosa's death.
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This does tie in with jockey William's death reg. where his mother is named as Rosa, and the death of Edward and Thomas where she is Alice/Alicia.

The thing that makes me think that these are Rosa's brothers is that when William (occupation Jockey) was gaoled in 1896 for being drunk, he said he was born at St George Bridge in Queensland. This was the original name for St George and he obviously thought he was born there. Too many common factors here to not be connected.

I will send you a message about how to get a free copy of that baptism register so you can see the mother's surname written for yourself. It is a bit long winded to post here.

You said earlier that Rosa Snr's death cert gave details of how long they had been co-habiting - were there exact years given? Are you going to get a copy of the documents relating to Edward's court case? They do sometimes detail relationships.

I am glad this is not my family, LOL, they're driving me nuts.

Debra
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