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Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 26 Jul 2015 12:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jul 2015 12:20AM GMT
Surnames: kempf, marsden, fortescue, archibald
Hi,

Olivia Laura Kempf born 1871 Frederiksberg, Denmark to:
Johannes Carl Kempf and Olavia Florentine Marsden.
Emigrated from Denmark in 1875 with her mother and sisters.

I am interested in Olivia's life in Australia.

As far as I can tell she was married twice (Sydney NSW) - Cyril G Fortescue m,1897, and John Archibald m. 1908. One child, a daughter Helga Muriel Fortescue b. 1901. (My GGrandmother)

On TROVE, in searching for Olivia Kempf - I come across a singer actress particularly in the year 1895.

I would desperately (!) like to somehow find out if this is my Olivia Kempf.

I know that there were other cousins Olivia (via the Cobar families).

Any help would be appreciated :)

Re: Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 26 Jul 2015 1:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
If she was still singing etc up until her marriage it may be listed under occupation on her marriage cert.
Also it appears her father came to Australia too as they had 3 more children in NSW
3712/1879 KEMPF AMELIA ETTIE JOHN OLIVIA FLORENTINE SYDNEY
2104/1881 KEMPF HILDRED JOHN OLIVIA SYDNEY
2105/1881 KEMPF VIOLET JOHN OLIVIA SYDNEY

Kellie

Re: Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 26 Jul 2015 2:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
Ah yes the marriage certificate! Thank you Kellie.

Yes, her father came out in 1872 :)

Re: Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 29 Jul 2015 8:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kempf, marsden, fortescue, archibald
I just received the marriage certificate and some other confirmation, that it is indeed Olivia Kempf, daughter of Johann and Olavia.

The wedding cert to Cyril Fortescue 1897 lists Olivia as an actress (and Cyril as an actor).

Apparently there is quite a bit of information on the family in the book by William McClelland: Cobars Founding Fathers - which I have ordered - including the attached image.
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Re: Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 29 Jul 2015 10:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Rachel,
That is excellent.
Thanks for getting back to us.

Olivia must have been good to be so young and taken over the scene like that.

Kellie

Re: Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 29 Jul 2015 9:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Jul 2015 10:25PM GMT
Hi Rach,

This baby girl was born on 18 Dec 1898 (not 1901).

38184/1912 FORTESCUE HELGA (Father) CYRIL G (Mother) OLIVIA L (District) SYDNEY

Death of Cyril FORTESCUE...

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14413865?searchTerm=...


Mary

Re: Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 29 Jul 2015 10:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

Thank you Mary.

Yes, I am trying to clear up a few things with Helga Muriel Fortescue - who was fostered/adopted….Im just waiting on a transcript that someone else in the tree has done with the mothers name listed as Annie Dowden b Auckland New Zealand…and in the notes mentioning that Olivia Archibald (relict Fortescue) fostered the child and named her Helga Muriel Fortescue….

Re: Olivia Laura Kempf - Olivia Kempf Dramatic Company 1895?

Posted: 29 Jul 2015 10:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fortescue
Hi Rach,

Have you purchased that December, 1898 birth certificate?

Who registered the birth?
What address is on the certificate?

Mary
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