The Casper Kiener (birth 1680) you mention in your post is the brother of Peter Kiener (Birth 1685) and is Casper Kiener Jr. Their fathers name is Casper Kiener Sr. (Birth 1660) and married Maria Agneti Bender (Birth 1660) in 1682 in Bachenau, Heilbronn, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany. Casper Kiener Sr. and his children arrived in America in 1738. They arrived in Philadelphia on the "Thistle." Casper Kiener Sr. is buried in Pumpkin Center, Lincoln County N.C. USA.

Benedict Kiener (Birth 1537) father's name is John Paul Kiener (Birth 1515). The only parent named for Benedict is the father. The only parent named for John Paul is his mother, Vera Speicher (dates unknown).