Thankyou Bill, I appreciate all the help I can get.I am visiting a phillip web site now that mentions Horns. I'll post the links so you can look it over in case there is something that may help you in your search. If you find anything on Lela please let me know. Thanks. http://genforum.genealogy.com/phillips/ http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?forum=phill...