I am not a young lady so I can't tell you much. My father never talked about family much. I can give you all the names of The August Ziemer family from the list that Aunt Ollie wrote in 1949. Some of the dates are different from what I am finding out on the computer. This is all new to me. I just got my computer so what you have told me is great information. Emmett Ziemer, William Ziemer's son is the one that mentioned the Native American Indian. It had never been mentioned at home. Thanks again. Maybe I can help. Barb.